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Why can we not duel inside of Dungeons or Outlaws refugees???

altemriel
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There should be Arenas, not imposible to duel here!!!
  • ArchMikem
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    There is an Arena. Hammerdeath, just west of Wayrest. But no one wants to use it cause they just prefer to Duel wherever they want, which usually ends up being the Undaunted Camps or the Wayshrines.

    I don't see why people would want to randomly Duel in an Outlaws Refuge, much less a Group Dungeon where the point there is to not fight each other.
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  • Minyassa
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    Outlaw refuges are too small as it is with specific stalls people need to be at. It would be beyond annoying to have people dueling in a cramped space like that. It's already annoying as hell to have them dueling in streets where you have to walk and occasionally getting all over you when you're at a merchant. I wish duels were constrained to arenas, or would automatically take you to an instance for dueling like I've seen in other games.
  • altemriel
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    Outlaw refuges are too small as it is with specific stalls people need to be at. It would be beyond annoying to have people dueling in a cramped space like that. It's already annoying as hell to have them dueling in streets where you have to walk and occasionally getting all over you when you're at a merchant. I wish duels were constrained to arenas, or would automatically take you to an instance for dueling like I've seen in other games.

    there should be a new feature added to the outlaws refugees, an arena, an underground round big room where tournaments can be held, it will be an 20 vs 20 pvp instance with proceduraly generated maps.
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    altemriel wrote: »
    Minyassa wrote: »
    Outlaw refuges are too small as it is with specific stalls people need to be at. It would be beyond annoying to have people dueling in a cramped space like that. It's already annoying as hell to have them dueling in streets where you have to walk and occasionally getting all over you when you're at a merchant. I wish duels were constrained to arenas, or would automatically take you to an instance for dueling like I've seen in other games.

    there should be a new feature added to the outlaws refugees, an arena, an underground round big room where tournaments can be held, it will be an 20 vs 20 pvp instance with proceduraly generated maps.

    I think you are thinking of Quake xD

    Duels in dungeons are not allowed as it would interfere with damage from mobs/bosses etc.
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  • doslekis
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    You should save up some gold and buy a house. I've got some guildies who made some amazing dueling arenas in their homes, they hold tournaments with prizes etc.
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  • Tasear
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    Still...you would think outlaws could fight each other.
  • neverwalk
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    Zos should outlaw duelling in undaunted camps
  • OmniDo
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Still...you would think outlaws could fight each other.
    If we had open world-PVP, they could.
    While Im not a PVP'r myself, the ability to infiltrate the "enemies" lands and avoid detection by Guards is a common staple of most MMO's where PVP is involved.

    But as far as outlaws are concerned, the refuges are exactly that: a "Refuge" from harm.
    This includes other Outlaws.
    Think of them like the Continental grounds from the John Wick series.
    "Absolutely no personal business conducted while on Continental Grounds".
    But while youre there, you can enjoy all the "services" they have to offer, like fences, merchants, and the silent argonian.
  • Godzilla58
    They should make it if you dual in a town the guards chase you out and if you keep doing it you get a bounty.
  • idk
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    altemriel wrote: »
    Minyassa wrote: »
    Outlaw refuges are too small as it is with specific stalls people need to be at. It would be beyond annoying to have people dueling in a cramped space like that. It's already annoying as hell to have them dueling in streets where you have to walk and occasionally getting all over you when you're at a merchant. I wish duels were constrained to arenas, or would automatically take you to an instance for dueling like I've seen in other games.

    there should be a new feature added to the outlaws refugees, an arena, an underground round big room where tournaments can be held, it will be an 20 vs 20 pvp instance with proceduraly generated maps.

    Not sure why you feel outlaws refuges need an arena. As pointed out in another post their is an arena in game but most prefer to duel where they stand.

    Most areas already permit dueling. It is just silly entitlement to want it in the few areas that do not permit it. Seriously, we can duel in every major city and almost every place in the open world. Maybe they can turn off dueling in major cities and provide more arena type areas to compensate. That is likely to go over well.
    Edited by idk on August 19, 2017 5:23PM
  • Shadeaux
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    There is an Arena. Hammerdeath, just west of Wayrest. But no one wants to use it cause they just prefer to Duel wherever they want, which usually ends up being the Undaunted Camps or the Wayshrines.

    I don't see why people would want to randomly Duel in an Outlaws Refuge, much less a Group Dungeon where the point there is to not fight each other.


    Maybe because when they were talking about the introduction of duels, one scenario they laid out was being able to duel in a dungeon when someone in the party had to go away from the controller for a few minutes. Instead of just standing there, you would have something to do.

    When it implemented and this was not possible, they never explained why one of the stated reasons to do it was not included.

  • altemriel
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    maybe we should be able to duel everywhere where khajiit wants :)

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  • LMar
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    Shadeaux wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    There is an Arena. Hammerdeath, just west of Wayrest. But no one wants to use it cause they just prefer to Duel wherever they want, which usually ends up being the Undaunted Camps or the Wayshrines.

    I don't see why people would want to randomly Duel in an Outlaws Refuge, much less a Group Dungeon where the point there is to not fight each other.


    Maybe because when they were talking about the introduction of duels, one scenario they laid out was being able to duel in a dungeon when someone in the party had to go away from the controller for a few minutes. Instead of just standing there, you would have something to do.

    When it implemented and this was not possible, they never explained why one of the stated reasons to do it was not included.

    They did in fact say that they couldn't allow people to duel in dungeons as the Battle Spirit buff tthat is applied to you makes you take half the damage. So people could duel around bosses and take half the damage while taunting the boss while the rest of the group makes short work of it.
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  • Osteos
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Zos should outlaw duelling in undaunted camps

    Odd the Unduanted camps seem like the most appropriate place for dueling.



    Zos should have put a wayshrine and some services in Hammerdeath Arena.
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  • altemriel
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    Osteos wrote: »
    neverwalk wrote: »
    Zos should outlaw duelling in undaunted camps

    Odd the Unduanted camps seem like the most appropriate place for dueling.



    Zos should have put a wayshrine and some services in Hammerdeath Arena.



    yes and a repeatable quest and more repeatable quests associated with npcs in the arena and leaderboards and stuff
  • altemriel
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    and rewards
  • Ratzkifal
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    I don't see the point of duelling in dungeons but I really like the idea of an illegal cage fight in some outlaw refuge. That's way better than that silly arena.
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  • Betheny
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    doslekis wrote: »
    You should save up some gold and buy a house. I've got some guildies who made some amazing dueling arenas in their homes, they hold tournaments with prizes etc.

    Why save gold when OP can just beg for gold off forum members, like they did last time :neutral:
  • Ulfgarde
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    Pretty sure dueling isn't allowed in dungeons because of exploits (getting uppercutted/feared/speared through walls) and because you can probably circumvent some mechanics by doing it.

    Just look at Volenfell / Crypt of Hearts. You can still get feared into the walls pretty easily.
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  • TheAngelofDeath99
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    There is an Arena. Hammerdeath, just west of Wayrest. But no one wants to use it cause they just prefer to Duel wherever they want, which usually ends up being the Undaunted Camps or the Wayshrines.

    I don't see why people would want to randomly Duel in an Outlaws Refuge, much less a Group Dungeon where the point there is to not fight each other.

    It would be a good way to pass the time when another player goes AFK, or you're waiting to find a replacement.
  • altemriel
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    Betheny wrote: »
    doslekis wrote: »
    You should save up some gold and buy a house. I've got some guildies who made some amazing dueling arenas in their homes, they hold tournaments with prizes etc.

    Why save gold when OP can just beg for gold off forum members, like they did last time :neutral:

    lol, envious lamer
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