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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Can't understand why people want Vma nerfed!

razor_radford26
So I see posts all the time 'Oh please nerf Vma, Vma is impossible bla bla bla'

I am currently on my first run through, a level 250cp Sorceror with necro/julianos (purple) so not the highest level or best gear in the world, I am currently taking a small break on round 7/9. I gotta say this is the best content in the game!

I have died more times than I count, shouted at my nearest and dearest for talking to me while I am trying to dps the Ice Giant and thrown my controller so many times that I cannot believe it still works. This is the one thing in the game that is still a challenge and once I finally finish it I can imagine it will feel so good!

Just wanted to say well done Devs on making a great and challenging arena.
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    Because they are weak and they won't stick at it so they want it to be easier just to get the loot.

    I don't even think they want the sense of achievement because if it were to get nerfed why would you feel good about beating something tailored to your inabilities. I don't get it either.

    @Zos, please don't nerf it. It is some of the "hardest" content and should stay that hard.
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  • istguterSpieler
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    Nerf sorcs
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  • Beardimus
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    People don't like effort.

    And I concur, its the perfect balance. you just need your setup and game on point and its JUST doable. perfect challenge to take you up a gear
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  • kylewwefan
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    So, you've nearly broke controllers, cursed out your most beloved family, now taking a break due to frustration, and haven't beaten it yet you commend the team for making such wonderful content....
  • Defilted
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    VMA is great content. Thought it was great before I beat it, thought it was great after I beat it. Still go back and do other runs as well. I like trying different classes and configurations through VMA.
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  • Reorx_Holybeard
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    I think one reason maybe because vMA is such a ramp up in difficulty compared to the rest of the solo content:
    • Overworld -- Really easy if you avoid the world boss (now classed as group content)
    • Quest Instances -- Most of the difficult fights have been drastically nerfed (Doshia, the Mage Guild Clanfear, etc...)
    • Delves -- Only slightly more difficult than overworld
    • Public Dungeons -- Technically groiup content but easily soloed if you have some AoE DPS and self-healing.
    • nMA -- Only a little more difficult than public dungeons.
    • <==== Big Gap Here
    • vMA -- Holy Julianos, I need another stack of Soul Gems again....

    Technically you could fill that gap with soloing normal group dungeons and even a few vet dungeons which most solo players probably don't even think of trying. If ZOS had the time/will I think they could add 2 more modes to Maelstrom, one between nMA and vMA and one harder than vMA which would appease most people I think.

    Edited by Reorx_Holybeard on August 18, 2017 1:27PM
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  • Beardimus
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    ^ spot on
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  • razor_radford26
    kylewwefan wrote: »
    So, you've nearly broke controllers, cursed out your most beloved family, now taking a break due to frustration, and haven't beaten it yet you commend the team for making such wonderful content....

    Yes, it is the only thing in ESO that is a real challenge. Just because I get stressed doesn't mean it is not good content. And when I say taking a break I only mean a few hours to rest my eyes etc not a long term break or anything. I will have beaten it by the end of the day :)
    Edited by razor_radford26 on August 18, 2017 1:49PM
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    People who want it nerfed so they can get their first complete are a little silly, imo.

    However, if you want a specific piece from there, the RNG is just atrocious. I can clear it easily, but it still takes a fair amount of time being solo in a game I play for social interaction. Personally, that's why I wouldn't mind it being nerfed. It already isn't a challenge once you learn it, but the RNG is just horrendous so I can't be bothered farming it. A fix to the RNG would be even better...
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  • razor_radford26
    People who want it nerfed so they can get their first complete are a little silly, imo.

    However, if you want a specific piece from there, the RNG is just atrocious. I can clear it easily, but it still takes a fair amount of time being solo in a game I play for social interaction. Personally, that's why I wouldn't mind it being nerfed. It already isn't a challenge once you learn it, but the RNG is just horrendous so I can't be bothered farming it. A fix to the RNG would be even better...

    A token system or something maybe? Not to get the guaranteed trait you need but to at least get the weapon you want, keep a bit of RNG in it :)
  • Asardes
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    Most of the weapons there are not top notch for any build like they were when it came out. Only the bow is still best for stamina builds and it's also one of the weapons whose trait matters less due to the fact it's on the back bar. People mostly wanted it nerfed or weapons added to normal mode since they wanted those. It's not that hard to complete once you know the mechanics and what spawns where. When it was introduced people had 2-300 CP, agility/willpower jewels and a monster set and they still did it. There were no 5p dropped sets with jewels or weapons. The combos today are much more potent, people have more CP on average so there's far less reason for nerfs.
    Edited by Asardes on August 18, 2017 2:04PM
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