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That Moment When...

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Arbit
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That moment when you're a warden healer doing your best in a boss fight, your team just can't seem to beat, and then they complete it after you leave with a templar healer...
Argonian Master Race
  • Arbit
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    The boss was veteran falkreath final boss, we had gotten him down to 20% easily enough, but would always get overrun by atronachs, or had trouble breaking through his shield before he shouted again. In anycase, a templar healer got the job done when as a warden healer doing it for approx 4 horus could not.
    Argonian Master Race
  • Sixsixsix161
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    Arbit wrote: »
    That moment when you're a warden healer doing your best in a boss fight, your team just can't seem to beat, and then they complete it after you leave with a templar healer...

    I always chuckle when I see a sentence like this.

    Read the last part, slowly.

    If you don't get it, that's ok.

  • zaria
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    Raw healing should not be the issue.
    Unless group ran around like headless chickens making bol important its rather
    Templar was an better healer, probably faster / knew and was ready for mechanic, gave more support spc, shards (you have orbs but they should be used), ele drain, combat prayer add a bit of dps.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Arbit
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    zaria wrote: »
    Raw healing should not be the issue.
    Unless group ran around like headless chickens making bol important its rather
    Templar was an better healer, probably faster / knew and was ready for mechanic, gave more support spc, shards (you have orbs but they should be used), ele drain, combat prayer add a bit of dps.

    I know the mechanics, I run spc and gave it out like candy. My other set is master architect for that 10 second slayer buff on ultimate. i didnt run combat prayer, because not much opportunity to use it, i rand ele drain and elemental blockade.
    Argonian Master Race
  • Arbit
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    If anything I believe the issue was just that templar has BoL...
    Argonian Master Race
  • ArchMikem
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    Sixsixsix161 wrote: »
    Arbit wrote: »
    That moment when you're a warden healer doing your best in a boss fight, your team just can't seem to beat, and then they complete it after you leave with a templar healer...

    I always chuckle when I see a sentence like this.

    Read the last part, slowly.

    If you don't get it, that's ok.

    Glad it's okay, cause its going right over my head.
    CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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  • zaria
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    Arbit wrote: »
    If anything I believe the issue was just that templar has BoL...
    I healed it on templar, no spc, just julianos, just done a few vet 2 dungeons before, joined for normal run :)
    We did it after some hours, none of us had done it on vet.

    BoL was useful in one setting, then you ran with fire behind you and should not cross others path.
    here I had enough problems running and could not aim. I had magic because of the pull in phase.
    Else I mostly used healing springs.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Arbit
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    zaria wrote: »
    Arbit wrote: »
    If anything I believe the issue was just that templar has BoL...
    I healed it on templar, no spc, just julianos, just done a few vet 2 dungeons before, joined for normal run :)
    We did it after some hours, none of us had done it on vet.

    BoL was useful in one setting, then you ran with fire behind you and should not cross others path.
    here I had enough problems running and could not aim. I had magic because of the pull in phase.
    Else I mostly used healing springs.

    I dont believe you BoL spammer... :expressionless:
    Argonian Master Race
  • Axoinus
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    OP wants the warden healer to be as good as a Templar healer?

    I don't think that was the design intent bro.

  • Blackbird_V
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    Healers slow you down
    Falkreath is easy with 1 tank 3 dds. If you're good enough.

    And as for warden - it's a class invented by having thoughts while having a nice lavatory session.
    Edited by Blackbird_V on August 17, 2017 7:45AM
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
  • Feanor
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    Having a Templar instead of a Warden doesn't make or break the run. The player behind the char might though.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Arbit
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Having a Templar instead of a Warden doesn't make or break the run. The player behind the char might though.

    when youre team is barely pulling enough dps to finish it by the skin of their teeth it does. Anyways I caved and went with my templar to beat it with another group.
    Argonian Master Race
  • VoodooPlatypus
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    Sixsixsix161 wrote: »
    Arbit wrote: »
    after you leave with a templar healer...

    I always chuckle when I see a sentence like this.

    Read the last part, slowly.

    If you don't get it, that's ok.

  • Arbit
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    VoodooPlatypus wrote: »
    Sixsixsix161 wrote: »
    Arbit wrote: »
    after you leave with a templar healer...

    I always chuckle when I see a sentence like this.

    Read the last part, slowly.

    If you don't get it, that's ok.

    I'm a pretty darn good healer if I do say so myself. So people chortling to themselves that's not the case.
    Argonian Master Race
  • Arbit
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    Of course it was my mistake to make a thread about the discrepancy between Templar and warden healing and my frustration with it. Since sone ppl enjoy belittling others when they can.
    Argonian Master Race
  • Feanor
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    @Arbit

    Your problem was the group, not Templar or Warden.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • starkerealm
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Sixsixsix161 wrote: »
    Arbit wrote: »
    That moment when you're a warden healer doing your best in a boss fight, your team just can't seem to beat, and then they complete it after you leave with a templar healer...

    I always chuckle when I see a sentence like this.

    Read the last part, slowly.

    If you don't get it, that's ok.

    Glad it's okay, cause its going right over my head.

    Think dirty, Arch. No, dirtier than that.
  • FakeFox
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    The boss is in my opinion a bit luck based, even if you have the mechanics down. That said I think warden is suboptimal on that boss. A lot of line of sight issues and fighting in very cramped space makes his AOE based healing unreliable in my opinion. Never the less you can easily beat this boss with other healers then Templar.
    EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)
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