Stam DKs - where you at?

murdomac101

Has anyone persevered? if so how are you finding it?

I play primarily in No CP. I am running Tremorscale, Beekeeper's and 7th Legion. It's not too bad - against multiple bad players i can now hold my own. Against a good sorc or templar it's game over. Against another DK or NB I do ok.

I will probably swap out Tremorscale for Bloodspawn or Malubeth at some point.

Anyone finding anything else to work ok?

Sleep724

I'm wondering the same thing, especially after HotR. Since I'm on console I'm not sure yet with this update.

I tried you're exact setup but couldn't get enough sustain and damage to my liking. These past couple daysI've been using 5 hundings 5 viper 2 blood spawn. It's great 1v1 but surviabiltiy is tough against more than one attacker. Prolly just a learn to play thing there tho lol. May switch hundings for Tavas this weekend and see how that works.

Jjitsuboy98

Figure something like 5 Fury, 5 werewolf hide, 2 blood spawn 5 heavy and run 2H and 1HShield. Looks like that would still be good. Lots ulti generation and slot heroic slash. Dizzying swing and leap for burst. Maybe run max health and stamina and stamina recovery drink if you needed more recovery.

scipionumatia

here I am
still in morrowind, using 7th legion and werewolf hide. looking at switching to impregnable armor for next patch with infused weapons.
first thought was to drop werewolf hide for impregnable but upon further looking at the sets I'm starting to feel like 7th legion does less for me. werewolf hide lets me dump ultis which in turn makes sustaining easier.
then I thought dropping seventh legion for impregnable and keep werewolf hide, problem here is I'm losing my damage buff which hurts.
currently I'm thinking of scrapping both, and running impregnable with Tavas. still lose the damage buff but ill have max resources and should be able to sustain very well. maybe with elemental damage glyphs I can rely on weapon procs, and well timed CC to dragonleap combos? will require some testing in game.

any stam dks out there who aren't using fury/seventh legion/heritance/ravager?

murdomac101

Good responses guys. The few of us that are left need to keep in touch with what works!

I actually just changed up my mundus to warrior from the thief and the results were huge. I solo'd in nonCP tonight and no solo player I came across could beat me. I also killed several duos too. Didn't seem to matter what class. Maybe they were just not great players but I'm really pleased.

If I get malubeth or bloodspawn I could maybe ditch beekeeper and replace with a stamina set or WW for the ultimate regen.

Ocelot9x

Actually im enjoying more my stam warden,but I was using 5 tavas (3+sword n shield) 5 bone pirate 2 bloodspawn/slimecraw. Tava 1h infused with oblivion glyph 2h on backbar maelstrom 2h precise.
Nice setup,lovely ult regen,2k steam recovery nice burst with leap (little tip: heavy attack before doing it for a sweet +10% damage,lot of people don't know)

Xvorg

I'm too lazy for a new build, but I've been considering Willows ( 4 heavy) + witchman + Bloodspawn

MaximillianDiE

I got sick of tanking immobile builds a while ago so for something different I've been running 6 Medium/1 Heavy - 5 cowards (on Bow Bar) / 5 Hulking Draugr (2H Bar) /1 Selene /1 Tremor Tower Mundus & Tri Food - 47.5k stamina means I hit pretty hard and still have around 1800 stam regen as well as decent stats. Cowards gives me great mobility to hit and run and makes you quite tanky when you need it.

Still toying with the idea of going back to magicka though as it seems so good this patch.

Xvorg

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

I got sick of tanking immobile builds a while ago so for something different I've been running 6 Medium/1 Heavy - 5 cowards (on Bow Bar) / 5 Hulking Draugr (2H Bar) /1 Selene /1 Tremor Tower Mundus & Tri Food - 47.5k stamina means I hit pretty hard and still have around 1800 stam regen as well as decent stats. Cowards gives me great mobility to hit and run and makes you quite tanky when you need it.

Still toying with the idea of going back to magicka though as it seems so good this patch.

Why cowards on bow bar? Major protection?

MaximillianDiE

Xvorg wrote: »

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

I got sick of tanking immobile builds a while ago so for something different I've been running 6 Medium/1 Heavy - 5 cowards (on Bow Bar) / 5 Hulking Draugr (2H Bar) /1 Selene /1 Tremor Tower Mundus & Tri Food - 47.5k stamina means I hit pretty hard and still have around 1800 stam regen as well as decent stats. Cowards gives me great mobility to hit and run and makes you quite tanky when you need it.

Still toying with the idea of going back to magicka though as it seems so good this patch.

Why cowards on bow bar? Major protection?

Exactly but also major expedition for the whole time you are holding shift down (as well as major expedition) as when you're running from all those birds swooping (or any of the other non dodgeable attacks now ingame) at you trying to get out of range it helps to have major expedition and not have to expend more stamina on pointless roll dodges to keep it up and in any case I prefer the extra stam for increased damage on my 2H bar. I've also been using it on a DW bar while experimenting with DW dots and find it useful for staying on people without having to use a slot on my bar for a skill that gives major expedition and you can still run 2H for rally on your back bar.

Tormy

Still here Running the good ole 5 fury 5/4 werewolf and 2 blood spawn all wpn dmg glyphs and warrior!

Jjitsuboy98

Tormy wrote: »

Still here Running the good ole 5 fury 5/4 werewolf and 2 blood spawn all wpn dmg glyphs and warrior!

Great dueling set up.......im personally looking for something more open world

Durham

scipionumatia wrote: »

here I am
still in morrowind, using 7th legion and werewolf hide. looking at switching to impregnable armor for next patch with infused weapons.
first thought was to drop werewolf hide for impregnable but upon further looking at the sets I'm starting to feel like 7th legion does less for me. werewolf hide lets me dump ultis which in turn makes sustaining easier.
then I thought dropping seventh legion for impregnable and keep werewolf hide, problem here is I'm losing my damage buff which hurts.
currently I'm thinking of scrapping both, and running impregnable with Tavas. still lose the damage buff but ill have max resources and should be able to sustain very well. maybe with elemental damage glyphs I can rely on weapon procs, and well timed CC to dragonleap combos? will require some testing in game.

any stam dks out there who aren't using fury/seventh legion/heritance/ravager?

I don't use any of that ...
Seventh has to much down time for me.. 5 secs is not long enough for two handed attacks imo..lose almost 1 sec from dizzy swing ..
Ravenger does not proc on dots and two hander is not optimal with ravenger...
Fury is stronger then all you listed.. but to get it procing you really need to be taking heat also good groups tend to ignore you at first... I think Fury is better at soloing..

Right now I'm running these tool tips

My leap is always sitting at 22k goes to 24k however since the last patch in back with DB.. It's 15k with a 15k dot....
Dizzy swing is always 16k but goes to 18k. With Fury and Wearwolf i think your tool tips go to 17k but most of the time they are sitting around the 14k mark..

Think about damage is not all about procing damage sets ...Stam by itself gives tons of hitting power..

Bloodspawn is almost a must with DKs I will say that I can increase my damage with out it but I immediately see negative drawbacks with the lack of ult. Regen...

With all this said stam DK are hurting compared to magicka DKs... Stamina becomes an issue very quickly if you are not master of resource management...

Koolio

Been running 5 heavy shackle 5 bone pirate E.G. On my werewolf Dk with all prismatic glyphs.

Durham

I have ran that same set like that also but you have to give up the helmet set or a 5 piece bonus with that setup...

Koolio

Durham wrote: »

I have ran that same set like that also but you have to give up the helmet set or a 5 piece bonus with that setup...

I run SnB 2h.

devilsTear

I do 2 skoria, 5 ravager, 4 leki dw 2h
It's pretty fun to play but it's certainly not the strongest build out there.

Durham

Koolio wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

I have ran that same set like that also but you have to give up the helmet set or a 5 piece bonus with that setup...

I run SnB 2h.

You still lose a 5 piece when you switch to twohander I assumed you were sword and board.. Unless you are not running a 2 piece helm set..

bottleofsyrup

I'm still trying to figure my DK out myself. After trying various sets I'm currently using 2 Blood Spawn, 5 Shackle and 5 Werewolf Hide, 2H and S&B. Switching to Werewolf Hide has been really good for me, but I'm still struggling with resource management, especially in duels. I can't get heavy attacks to land most of the time or the opponent blocks my heavies. I'm also having issues with incoming damage. I feel squishy and my Vigor barely heals me at all even buffed with Igneous and Hardened Armor (Draconic Power passive).

Koolio

Durham wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

I have ran that same set like that also but you have to give up the helmet set or a 5 piece bonus with that setup...

I run SnB 2h.

You still lose a 5 piece when you switch to twohander I assumed you were sword and board.. Unless you are not running a 2 piece helm set..

Yea. I only have buffs on that bar. Shuffle igneous vigor crit rush rally. Leap.

So I lose it but isn't really that big of a deal to me.