Hotr Mag Sorc PVP meta?

Hutch679

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

How do you slot 2x 5 piece crafted sets (julianos and shackle) with 2 piece monster?

^read this wrong nvm.

Betsararie

Biro123 wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

That's interesting. So you use Wrath for a spammable? Doesn't that make you loose out a bit on burst without Force Pulse? However, that's very insightfull. Thanks for the explanation.

Standard DW play, really. You don't lose on burst - in fact you gain it

Your burst damage is actually higher with the dw/endless fury setup vs crushing shock? If so, is it by a significant amount?

I have seen a couple people running this and honestly, it has sparked my interest, but I have not felt inclination to switch. I do like the idea of eliminating crushing shock from the bar to free up space for other possibilities.

Honestly, the gap is getting smaller and smaller each patch as they make staff more and more attractive - and DW (often indirectly) less so.

It boils down to..:
1. DW (or 2-hander) has more base wpn/spell dmg than a staff
2. DW (or 2-hnader) sword passives increases damage too (but staves now get it too - at a slightly higher amount)
3. DW can give access to set combo's that staves can't
4. Losing CS makes your rotation much less resource-intense so you can spec less in sustain and more in raw dmg
5. Rotation (and bar) often has space to fit in a degeneration to empower your frag for more burst

The downside is that if the frag gets dodged/blocked, the burst only tickles - which happens much more often on PC imho than on console cos Miats. Well, there a few downsides, actually - but the burst IS higher - and its great at quickly taking down those who don't know how to avoid it. I just like the playstyle.

And the biggest advantage for me at the mo is that, since I run the twilight matriarch, using a staff (and therefore heavy attacks to add to the burst) always causes my passive pet to run off into the zerg and get killed... Doesn't happen with DW :-)

Very interesting.

Thanks for the info.

IAVITNI

MonoAlv96 wrote: »

I think using DW against any player with a brain is just impossible, block dodge frag and u are useless.Also gl if ur having to spam 6 endless fury to proc it.On the other side, the pressure destro gives is amazing.

DW play style sexy af tho.

Not impossible but definitely a lot harder. You either have to use streak/dawnbreaker to setup the frag, or bait them/pray they all in while you have a proc'd frag. You can also try to resource drain them. Never tried it myself. But it's an option. It's a lot riskier but when you pull it off, its better than pizza. (ok maybe just 2 slices of pizza, not the whole pizza)

Bkella

DW MagSorc sucks.....don't do it

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GrigorijMalahevich

After being 4 months inactive and playing necro+lich with infernal - after necro/familiar nerfs I tried the following:
Destroction mastery + lich with back bar resto + infernal (I just like it, potentially that new monster set item that gives mag+stam is probably better)
3 cost reduction glyphs.

Replaced familiar with inner light and entropy and have a bit more magicka than with necro.

Have not played a lot with this build, but it is OK for soloplay in nocp.