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Stams are in bad position and u nerf TFS
ccfeeling
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Zos , whats going on?
Stams have limited penetration choices .
We dont have penetration passive !
We dont even have good shield !
Ans u also nerf sharpen !
Omg!
Stams have limited penetration choices .
We dont have penetration passive !
We dont even have good shield !
Ans u also nerf sharpen !
Omg!
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theamazingx✭✭✭✭Stam's problem is not penetration. Their dps is unrivaled. Stam's weakness is survivability, particularly in how their lack of decent shields hikes the learning curve for most hardmode trials. All I want for christmas is a boneshield buff.1
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Blackbird_V✭✭✭✭✭
✭- Sunderflame
- Night Mother's Gaze
- Two Fanged Snake
- Sharpened
- Mundus Stone
- Roar of Alkosh
- Major Fracture
- Minor Fracture
- Kra'aghs
- Champion Points
- Crusher Enchantment.
Night Mother's Gaze, Alkosh and Kra'aghs on my Stamplar I can do 40k+ DPS single target buffed. There are so many penetration choices.Edited by Blackbird_V on August 14, 2017 2:48PMDifficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.2 -
ValkynSketha✭✭✭✭✭Stam is not in bad position and they wont, they are still above mag in terms of fun and dps, you can overpenetrate in trial environment by having stam dd using sunder+nightmother with alkosh+crusher and fracture, you don't even need sharp weps or even cp penetration.0 -
DarkAedin✭✭✭✭✭theamazingx wrote: »Stam's problem is not penetration. Their dps is unrivaled. Stam's weakness is survivability, particularly in how their lack of decent shields hikes the learning curve for most hardmode trials. All I want for christmas is a boneshield buff.
@theamazingx and made a bunch of attacks affect u while roll dodging. Lack of shields were ok when we could gear to roll dodge for mitigation. But lots of abilities are undodgeable now, AND we didnt get any buff to our mitigation to ballance it.
Edit: they actually nerfed us again after the dodge, by nerfing vigor.Edited by DarkAedin on August 14, 2017 2:51PM0 -
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✭✭Classic "I cant reach penetration cap and that is end of the world for my DPS" thread?0 -
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✭✭I wouldn't consider a 65k achievable single target DPS in the current patch "being in a bad position", nor would I consider stamina to have much lower survivability since the changes to Deadly cloak.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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✭✭Classic "I cant reach penetration cap and that is end of the world for my DPS" thread?
Will I?No
We do dps with melee range without shield , we just want better dmg but I feel the requirement is getting harder and harder every patch.
My magblade does better and safer , if all stams here feel fine , I wont say anything from now1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BlackbirdV wrote: »- Sunderflame
- Night Mother's Gaze
- Two Fanged Snake
- Sharpened
- Mundus Stone
- Roar of Alkosh
- Major Fracture
- Minor Fracture
- Kra'aghs
- Champion Points
- Crusher Enchantment.
Night Mother's Gaze, Alkosh and Kra'aghs on my Stamplar I can do 40k+ DPS single target buffed. There are so many penetration choices.
On one hand true on the other hand u need to give up pther boni to get these0 -
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✭Well in my opinion, TFS nerf will not have too much impacts on 12 man content. As long as 2 other stam in group are using sunder and NMG ( with good 100% uptime rotation, it makes TFS redundant. So the question is about the other 2 STam DD (considering there are 2 other stam) is what the can/ should wear apart from Hunding.
There are a few options -
1 stam DK- Morag Tong
1stamplar- WM
1NB- WM
Also there is a good possibilities of using BriarHeart combined with Hunding except for that it doesn't bring any buff to the group DPS.
Reagarding the penetration, again if TFS is dropped, it's still possible to not over pen and have enough to be almost on the Cap with certain extra debuffs.
Stamina is in very decent place at the moment if I'd say. For mag...
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Balance for the Sake of Balance is no Balance at all.0 -
DerpyShadowz✭✭✭✭Zos , whats going on?
Stams have limited penetration choices .
We dont have penetration passive !
We dont even have good shield !
Ans u also nerf sharpen !
Omg!
You may complain stamina has a hard time getting penetration in comparison to Magicka builds, but the same vice versa could be said for crit chance.Lurking in the shadows.0 -
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✭✭✭✭It's only a 14% reduction, translating to ~1.4% reduction in DPS from lost penetration. So if you leave your CP and gear as they are now you will lose 560 DPS out of a 40K DPS parse. But you probably won't, since you will get another 10 blue CP.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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