Should CP140 White Gear Drops be Removed from the Game?

TeIvanni

Hey, so I'm absolutely sick of having to empty my bags because of Champion Point Lvl140 white trash gear items.
These garbage items sell for 0 gold, 99% of the time they decon for no materials, and their only purpose seems to be cluttering my inventory.

Anyone else think they should just remove them?

ArchMikem

Why CP140 specifically though? Have you not gotten to 160 yet?

TeIvanni

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

ArchMikem wrote: »

Why CP140 specifically though? Have you not gotten to 160 yet?

Containers drop CP140 armor and gear, even if you're at the CP Cap.

I think it was a hold out from a time where you needed the Wrothgar DLC to get Vet16 materials.

Honestly seems to me like the devs, just didn't feel like updating it.

LadyNalcarya

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

"Dustman has destroyed [Voidsteel Girdle] (o gold)"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And yeah, these drops are 100% useless, they cant even be deconned for mats. They barely drop any, and if they do its usually a racial style material or a piece of cp140 mat if youre super lucky.

Slick_007

not all are worth 0 gold. and you do occasionally get materials. leave them alone. i used them for upping my alts skills.

and im not voting in a snoopy poll. sure you arent an alt?

bottleofsyrup

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

I have Dustman auto-destroy these things on pickup, but still feel they should be removed. It's just an outdated system that ZOS needs to re-evaluate.

Runs

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

There is no risk to the 0 value items which is why they are worthless. They aren't stolen, they aren't dropped. They are picked up in areas like Coldharbour where it says search/take instead of steal when you loot a container or just grab an item laying around. If they had value that would be the new way to grind gold and same goes for deconstruction.

-edit- The ones that are in containers in delves,dungeons or any other places with risk... it would be nice if those were removed. Even if it just meant more empty containers.

LadyNalcarya

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

Slick_007 wrote: »

i used them for upping my alts skills.

They give less crafting exp than normal items. they changed it after people cheesed skill leveling by stealing and deconning stuff.

Jhalin

I'm pretty sure the only 0 gold items you can pick up is the trash from backpacks, urns and such. Yeah I'd like to be rid of it, but honestly you should be ready to clear out your inventory anyway if you're urn-farming.

LadyDestiny

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

You need more choices than just the two you have shown. A lot of people earn gold this way with the non trash white drops you can sell, not to mention for research, decon xp which is small and mats. It's not that difficult to sell items at a vender or buy the assistant trader in the crown store if you don't need the junk.

LadyDestiny

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

Jhalin wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the only 0 gold items you can pick up is the trash from backpacks, urns and such. Yeah I'd like to be rid of it, but honestly you should be ready to clear out your inventory anyway if you're urn-farming.

This is correct. White gear from mobs can sell up to or around 79 gold apiece I believe.

phaneub17_ESO

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

I picked my answer as this poll is obviously biased.

ofSunhold

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

Piles of ashes sell for what, 5 gold? The foul hide from random wolves you inexplicably decide to pick up even though it's, y'know, foul: that sells for cashy money. Elemental bits, ectoplasm blobs, gnawed bones from urns, merchants will take any and all of them off my hands and give me some coin.

But voidsteel daggers? Worthless. Nothing.

Fix it or take them out of the game. It's just annoying.

MattT1988

Yes, either get rid of them or put a small gold value on them. They're completely pointless.

lolo_01b16_ESO

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

As far as I remember they actually added those items, because it was a community request to be able to interact with the world and pick up items that are laying around, like you could in previous TES games. They had to make them basicly worthless to prevent people from just farming them without any risk.
So if you don't enjoy the RP aspect of the game, either don't loot those items or just use an addon to decon them.

LadyNalcarya

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

ofSunhold wrote: »

Piles of ashes sell for what, 5 gold? The foul hide from random wolves you inexplicably decide to pick up even though it's, y'know, foul: that sells for cashy money. Elemental bits, ectoplasm blobs, gnawed bones from urns, merchants will take any and all of them off my hands and give me some coin.

But voidsteel daggers? Worthless. Nothing.

Fix it or take them out of the game. It's just annoying.

Not just the daggers. We have 0 gold diamond rings and necklaces.

Opticon

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

TeIvanni wrote: »

Opticon wrote: »

From your completely biased poll choices I had to do a double-take to make sure you weren't qsnoopyjr.

Yeah, I was considering adding a third option. There honestly are more things they could do, like raise the items level to 160. Or add a gold value to the items...

But i prefer a world in black and white.

The world isn't black and white and neither is this game. When you make a blatantly biased poll, expect many to be against your predetermined answer.

bebynnag

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

the 140 cap on crap is silly!
raise the cap, give these things a use or a gold value, or something
i prefer to use auto loot when if raiding pots! and my (maxed) inventory fills up 2 quickly

Slick_007 wrote: »

not all are worth 0 gold. and you do occasionally get materials. leave them alone. i used them for upping my alts skills.

and im not voting in a snoopy poll. sure you arent an alt?

if you are deconstructing dropped crap with '0' value to level your crafting on an alt... you're doing it wrong

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

i used them for upping my alts skills.

They give less crafting exp than normal items. they changed it after people cheesed skill leveling by stealing and deconning stuff.

comments like this make me LOL -
what they ACTUALLY did was tied the crafting XP you gain to the value of an item.

looting items typically have a value of 0 gold - you occasionally get a green piece which has a minor value but the drop rates are extremely low

stolen items have a gold value the same gold value as items looted from corpses - the difference is in the drop rates of the quality/traits, stolen items follow the same rules as looted items.

while ornate does give a slightly higher craft XP - the gold you gain from selling it is more beneficial

looting corpses & writs are the only way to acquire intricate items and while these items undoubtebly grant the highest amount of XP for deconstructing an item the drop rate is quite low, so leveling crafting using only intricate items is time consuming &/or expensive

the quickest way is still to steal & decon

persoanally i steal, launder then decon, (2 birds1 stone)
trust me i have maxed out crafts & ledgermain on 13 characters!

vrine

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

Considering you're grinding for Telvanni motifs/recipes, you've probably seen a lifetime's worth of white trash items

LadyNalcarya

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

@puffytheslayer wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

i used them for upping my alts skills.

They give less crafting exp than normal items. they changed it after people cheesed skill leveling by stealing and deconning stuff.

comments like this make me LOL -
what they ACTUALLY did was tied the crafting XP you gain to the value of an item.

looting items typically have a value of 0 gold - you occasionally get a green piece which has a minor value but the drop rates are extremely low

stolen items have a gold value the same gold value as items looted from corpses - the difference is in the drop rates of the quality/traits, stolen items follow the same rules as looted items.

while ornate does give a slightly higher craft XP - the gold you gain from selling it is more beneficial

looting corpses & writs are the only way to acquire intricate items and while these items undoubtebly grant the highest amount of XP for deconstructing an item the drop rate is quite low, so leveling crafting using only intricate items is time consuming &/or expensive

the quickest way is still to steal & decon

persoanally i steal, launder then decon, (2 birds1 stone)
trust me i have maxed out crafts & ledgermain on 13 characters!

It WAS possible to level up crafts with stolen items. They used to give normal amount of mats and exp.
Proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8gfRP1WyXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyF1rJPr-TQ
(and tons of similar vids)
Then ZOS decided its an exploit and fixed it.

P.S. Maxed crafts on 13 chars doesnt mean anything and its very easy to get. :P I have it without even leveling it, just by deconning drops.

TeIvanni

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

Opticon wrote: »

When you make a blatantly biased poll, expect many to be against your predetermined answer.

I'll be sure to add a "I think this poll is biased" option next time. Thank you for the suggestion.

TeIvanni

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

LadyDestiny wrote: »

This is correct. White gear from mobs can sell up to or around 79 gold apiece I believe.

That is not the gear we're talking about here.

Opticon

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

TeIvanni wrote: »

Opticon wrote: »

When you make a blatantly biased poll, expect many to be against your predetermined answer.

I'll be sure to add a "I think this poll is biased" option next time. Thank you for the suggestion.

You already did, it's option two.

MehrunesFlagon

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

Runs wrote: »

There is no risk to the 0 value items which is why they are worthless. They aren't stolen, they aren't dropped. They are picked up in areas like Coldharbour where it says search/take instead of steal when you loot a container or just grab an item laying around. If they had value that would be the new way to grind gold and same goes for deconstruction.

-edit- The ones that are in containers in delves,dungeons or any other places with risk... it would be nice if those were removed. Even if it just meant more empty containers.

and you can steal those very same cp140 weapons in Deshaan.So that kind of invalidates that.

starkerealm

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

TeIvanni wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Why CP140 specifically though? Have you not gotten to 160 yet?

Containers drop CP140 armor and gear, even if you're at the CP Cap.

I think it was a hold out from a time where you needed the Wrothgar DLC to get Vet16 materials.

Honestly seems to me like the devs, just didn't feel like updating it.

Imperial City, back when the 160 gear was supposed to be vanishingly rare, and you needed to slowly progress from 140 gear, to 150, and eventually collect a full set of 160 pieces.

Betsararie

Why not just not pick it up?

Slick_007

puffytheslayer wrote: »

if you are deconstructing dropped crap with '0' value to level your crafting on an alt... you're doing it wrong

so what you are saying is i should sell them like you?

Acrolas

You get valueless junk gear from containers at any level.

It should all just be level 1 with a gold value of 10 or under. Otherwise, just remove it from the loot table because it's not loot.

Narvuntien

Yes, remove CP140 White Gear from the drop table.

It should be upgraded to 150.. it is so strange finding shadowhide or nightwood random gear in containers.

Vipstaakki

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

You take it and you enjoy it.

Opticon

No, I enjoy having my inventory cluttered.

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