Mag sorc build, what are your thoughts?

KPC13

I don't have a video for this build or anything but I wanted your thoughts. It's served me well and is good enough to get me through all the vet dungeons (I don't do trials)

So key info and stats
Race-High Elf
Role DPS
Atts- 60 Mag
4 Health
Max mag-35698
Max health-18440
Max Stam- 13655
(Buffed with purple tri stat food)



Gear:
Head and shoulders- Ilambris
5 Julianos
Accessories- Will power with 2 max health and 1 max magica glyphs
2 flame staffs.



How I run the build is very simple.

Front bar-
Crystal frags
Hardened Ward
Bound Aegis
Endless fury
Flame Clench
Energy Overload ulti

Back Bar
Pulsar
Hardened ward
Bound Aegis
Haunting Curse
Streak
Destro ulti, (although I pretty much solely use energy overload

How it works,

Flame clench for ilambris proc on all enemies until they get low then use endless fury for sustain.
When my magica does get low, use heavy attack to regen magica and gain ulti.
When magica is full rinse and repeat.

On bosses the exact same except using haunting curse

On mobs, use streak to zip in Pulsar to mangle then streak out and then attack from a distance
Always keeping my shields up of course.


So far I am happy with this build it gets me through all the PVP content (minus trials) Without much difficulty but does anybody have any suggestions on how I can improve the build?

jaws343

At the very least, a Wall of Elements morph is your friend. I have also found that Bound Aegis isn't really necessary while running a shield. If you still want the mitigation, go with Boundless Storm. You get protection for the moments your shield is down but you also deal damage with the ability to anyone around you and you free up a bar slot.

KPC13

Ah sounds good I'll give it a try, thank you!

O_LYKOS

i would lose aegis and double bar inner light instead

seedubsrun

KPC13 wrote: »

I don't have a video for this build or anything but I wanted your thoughts. It's served me well and is good enough to get me through all the vet dungeons (I don't do trials)

So key info and stats
Race-High Elf
Role DPS
Atts- 60 Mag
4 Health
Max mag-35698
Max health-18440
Max Stam- 13655
(Buffed with purple tri stat food)



Gear:
Head and shoulders- Ilambris
5 Julianos
Accessories- Will power with 2 max health and 1 max magica glyphs
2 flame staffs.



How I run the build is very simple.

Front bar-
Crystal frags
Hardened Ward
Bound Aegis
Endless fury
Flame Clench
Energy Overload ulti

Back Bar
Pulsar
Hardened ward
Bound Aegis
Haunting Curse
Streak
Destro ulti, (although I pretty much solely use energy overload

How it works,

Flame clench for ilambris proc on all enemies until they get low then use endless fury for sustain.
When my magica does get low, use heavy attack to regen magica and gain ulti.
When magica is full rinse and repeat.

On bosses the exact same except using haunting curse

On mobs, use streak to zip in Pulsar to mangle then streak out and then attack from a distance
Always keeping my shields up of course.


So far I am happy with this build it gets me through all the PVP content (minus trials) Without much difficulty but does anybody have any suggestions on how I can improve the build?

First up, I love to see people just get out there and make their own builds. You can pretty much tell when someone just got a build off the internet. There's definitely nothing wrong with that as I do it too but I like your style here. I'd be curious to know what CP you're at and what mundus stone you use. It would also help to know what skills you have on your Overload bar.

With that being said here's my suggestions without trying to change your build too much:

Do you really need the extra stamina from your food? If so keep it but if not go for max magicka/max health food instead. You really only need to hit about 17,200 health for vet dungeons and as long as you keep your shields up you could go less without gimping yourself much. This would allow you to go buy or find all magicka willpower jewelry. More magic= more DPS and better sustain.

It doesn't look like there's enough lightning damage in your build to fully utilize Illambris. I'd drop clench for Force Pulse instead. It's cheaper to cast and that one attack alone can proc both the flame and lightning damage from Illambris giving you more uptime on the bonus damage.

Elemental Blockade (Morph of Wall of Elements) is a very powerful AOE attack that I'd always recommend to any magic character. I'd swap out Pulsar in exchange for it. If you ever get a Maelstrom Arena staff you'll get another nice bonus to the skill. If you have the CP for it, you can put 75 points into Thaumaturge which unlocks the Exploiter passive giving you 10% more damage to off balance enemies. If an enemy goes off balance they will already take an additional 8% damage so it's a big boost.

I don't see any healing in your skills. Perhaps it's on your Overload bar but I'd recommend putting Power Surge on your back bar in place of Streak if you're not using it currently. If you always have a healer then probably not needed but it'll be great for solo stuff and if you do vMA.

I also assume you're running Spell Power potions since you don't have Inner Light or Power surge for the bonuses to crit and spell damage?

If you drop Streak and Pulsar but decide you really miss the movement go for Boundless Storm where Streak was. you'll get about 8% damage mitigation, AOE lightning damage that can prov Illambris, and 6 seconds of 30% faster speed.

Lastly, if you decide on Wall of Elements, consider using a lightning staff back bar and inferno front. You'll have a great balance of flame and lightning damage and Illambris will proc both elements all the time. Also you'll set enemies off balance a lot more too. I'd use a spell damage glyph on the back bar and a shock damage glyph on your inferno bar. That should maximize the damage from both. Make them both gold quality too. Armor isn't as important as weapons are when it comes to making them gold. You'll get about 200 more spell damage from each bar

Saint314Louis1985

If it works for you then thats all that matters. with that being said, I would recommend a couple changes.

you could probably use crushing shock instead of flame clench as your spammable. also, i would remove pulsar & 1 hardened ward and put liquid lightning & elemental blockade. If you are dead set on streak for mobility, leave it. One thing you could do though would be remove streak and fit inner light on your front bar. Lightning staff on back bar wouldnt be a bad idea for trash mob pulls.

as far as gear goes, one thing to consider is that running hardened ward is almost like having 15k extra health. so having alot of extra health on gear and attributes is kind of over kill. also, the more magica you have the higher your shield will be, so i would definitely recommend using 3x arcane willpower jewelry (2 with spell dmg glyphs and 1 with magica regen). you can leave some health attributes if it makes you more comfortable.

bars might look something like this:

front bar - fire staff

crushing shock
bound aegis
inner light (or mages fury)
hardened ward
frags
ult - overload

back bar - lightning staff

liquid lightning
elemental blockade
bound aegis
power surge (for huge dmg buff and great self heals)
curse
ult - elemental rage

to start the fight you would:

keep surge buff up

liquid lightning, elemental blockade, curse, swap bars

weave crushing shock and throw frags when procd, repeat when your dots run out

when you get low on resources use lightning staff heavies or overload ult to regen

i think this would definitely be an improvement, but in the end what works for YOU matters the most. definitely do not take my word as gospel lol.

good luck.

KPC13

Hi guys thank you for commenting I have taken some of your advice as you will see below.

I am CP 439,
I use the apprentice stone for increased spell damage

and yes, I use spell power potions for that reason.

As it stands with CP I have put 100 in Arcanist and the remaining 46 in tenacity

Then 100 in elemental expert and 46 in elfborn

And then 74 in hardy and 73 in elemental defender

In all honesty, I was unsure where to put them and these looked the most useful.

I have taken some of your recommendations.

Namely using force pulse as my spammable as well as wall of elements and liquid lightning instead of streak.

I will also change my willpower jewellery so they all have max mag as well and see how that works.

Then on my overload bar, I have shattering prison, deadric mines, hardened ward, Bound aegis and power surge.

I will give this a try tonight in a few dungeons and see what results I get.

Thanks guys!

jaws343

You may want to lower the CP you have in Arcanist and Elemental expert. The 25 or so CP being used in each for a 1% increase in damage would work better in another star. Even dumping those extra CPs into Tenacity and Elfborn would yield better results.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Not running at least one lighting staff is completely gimping yourself. Why slot a skill like pulsar when you get get better and free AOE DPS from lighting heavy attacks. Sorcs have passives that benefit lighting damage, I think it is somewhere between stubborn and foolish not to play to your class strengths.

Also, streak is useless in PVE IMO. Waste of a slot. Only time it ever makes a PVE (overload bar) is when I am running backroom on VMOL final boss. I would also only run Crystal Frags if running a true spammable like force pulse. Otherwise, you wont proc it enough to merit a spot on your bar.

End of the day, I am sure this gets you through most Vet content. If you are posting to show off your build, well there are the flaws. If you are posting because you want to improve it, well, start with parses. You can have the best build ever on paper, but without skele or trial parses, its pretty meaningless and very difficult to objectively analyze.

Edit: Also, just realized you dont have liquid lighting. That is the most powerful DPS skill you have. Not running it is a big mistake. How do you plan to proc ilambris lighting buff? Please dont say streak.

FakeFox

Really weird build to be honest. Too much PvE stuff to be a PvP build but also too much PvP stuff to be a PvE build...

Since I assume this is a PvE build:

- take out streak, pulsar, overload, hardened ward on frontbar
- replace them with elemental blockade, liquid lightning, inner light and meteor (the last two only for more magicka on your front bar.)
- remove crystal frags or add force pulse to proc it properly
- use magicka + HP food or witch mothers potent brew
- run at least one lightning staff
- for AOE place your dots and do lightning heavy attacks