Do Crafting Skill Points Matter for Surveys + Gold Mats?

bhagwad

My alt character is Lvl 50 in Enchanting. But she has 0 points in potency/aspect improvement. If I do the enchanting writs, do I have a lower chance of getting enchanting surveys or gold mats because I haven't put any points into enchanting?

bhagwad

Edit: Also, can I transfer the surveys onto my main who has 10 in Enchanting to get higher quality mats from the survey?

Taleof2Cities

bhagwad wrote: »

My alt character is Lvl 50 in Enchanting. But she has 0 points in potency/aspect improvement. If I do the enchanting writs, do I have a lower chance of getting enchanting surveys or gold mats because I haven't put any points into enchanting?

Survey maps drop at the same rate no matter what writ level you're at ... so you're good there. Gold mats, on the other hand, have a better drop rate the higher writ level you're at.

bhagwad wrote: »

Edit: Also, can I transfer the surveys onto my main who has 10 in Enchanting to get higher quality mats from the survey?

No. You'll see a Roman numeral tied to the name of the survey map ... which indicates the level of mats found at the survey site.

bhagwad

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

bhagwad wrote: »

My alt character is Lvl 50 in Enchanting. But she has 0 points in potency/aspect improvement. If I do the enchanting writs, do I have a lower chance of getting enchanting surveys or gold mats because I haven't put any points into enchanting?

Survey maps drop at the same rate no matter what writ level you're at ... so you're good there. Gold mats, on the other hand, have a better drop rate the higher writ level you're at.

bhagwad wrote: »

Edit: Also, can I transfer the surveys onto my main who has 10 in Enchanting to get higher quality mats from the survey?

No. You'll see a Roman numeral tied to the name of the survey map ... which indicates the level of mats found at the survey site.

Oh, I see. Well then, I guess I gotta put those points into improving the levels!

bongtokin420insd16

what? As in I, II, or III? That only denotes location. My main collects all my surveys and gets level goods from it.

Taleof2Cities

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

what? As in I, II, or III? That only denotes location. My main collects all my surveys and gets level goods from it.

I'll be back in the game tomorrow to check this ... if I am wrong apologies ahead of time.

Jciampi

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

what? As in I, II, or III? That only denotes location. My main collects all my surveys and gets level goods from it.

Not on the survey. On the writ reward box/case. Surveys are numbered too. But he is referring to the number next to the writ reward.

Tevalaur

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

No. You'll see a Roman numeral tied to the name of the survey map ... which indicates the level of mats found at the survey site.

All the Roman Numeral does is identify which of the locations in that region the survey is located. The survey rewards are fully determined by the 50-50 split like any other material run (and based on the character that redeems the survey, not the character that got it, and yes, they can be passed to a higher level crafter through your bank as they are account-bound).

Gan Xing

As for the hirelings, even if you have the level at max, if you don't have points into the skill that increases the level you can craft, your hirelings will get the mats and resources according to that level (so 0 points into that skill, but lvl 50 leather/cloth crafting will still only get you jute or raw hide)

davey1107

@bhagwad

As others have said, whatever mat level a toon picks up, that's what they get from surveys. So transferring to a higher level toon is worthwhile.

But as an add'l note, there are a few passives that can also help determine which toon you want to harvest. Ten Champion Points in The Lover offers a chance to increase the yield from nodes. It's a bit unclear whether survey nodes look at this, or if they have their own mechanism, but my assumption has always been that a Rich node is a bundle of 5-6 regular nodes, and that when you harvest it, the return is something like silk, 3+3+3+3+3+3=18. With the passive each run its own RNG and can double, offering a yield of 18-36. This would explain the variance in yield, but like I say I never tested w/o the passive to see if it has its own RNG.

75 points in Lover speeds things up. Not necessary, but very convenient. Of course, this is the recovery tree so almost any vet will be investing here anyway.

victoriana-blue

davey1107 wrote: »

@bhagwad But as an add'l note, there are a few passives that can also help determine which toon you want to harvest. Ten Champion Points in The Lover offers a chance to increase the yield from nodes. It's a bit unclear whether survey nodes look at this, or if they have their own mechanism, but my assumption has always been that a Rich node is a bundle of 5-6 regular nodes, and that when you harvest it, the return is something like silk, 3+3+3+3+3+3=18. With the passive each run its own RNG and can double, offering a yield of 18-36. This would explain the variance in yield, but like I say I never tested w/o the passive to see if it has its own RNG.

75 points in Lover speeds things up. Not necessary, but very convenient. Of course, this is the recovery tree so almost any vet will be investing here anyway.

Yep, the Plentiful Harvest CP bonus affects surveys too, though ime it doubles the whole survey node. It's always fun to see a string of (Ruby Ash 18) (Ruby Ash 19) (Ruby Ash 38) (Ruby Ash 18) in my loot history.

And I strongly recommend the Master Harvester CP bonus (halves the time to collect nodes), but it's like the crafting bag: once you get used to it, it's hard to go back. It's a thing to keep in mind when choosing Cyrodiil campaigns.

zaria

I have used level 1 crafters to farm the survey maps for the equipment crafts.
Writ tend to cost 30 material and you get 25 mat back, always level 1 and you tend to run into nodes playing the alts.
Feed maps to master crafter and have him collect them.