Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch - Way too Costly to Use

GrumpyDuckling

The inclusion of Perfect Roe as an ingredient means that no one in their right mind would actually use this recipe as a self-buff for their character - it's way too costly (both time and gold). Perfect Roe needs to be removed from the required ingredients for anyone to actually use this recipe - why not have the recipe require BOTH bervez juice and frost mirriam instead?

Could be an interesting recipe for hybrid builds, but just isn't worth it because of Perfect Roe.

twev

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

The inclusion of Perfect Roe as an ingredient means that no one in their right mind would actually use this recipe as a self-buff for their character - it's way too costly (both time and gold). Perfect Roe needs to be removed from the required ingredients for anyone to actually use this recipe - why not have the recipe require BOTH bervez juice and frost mirriam instead?

Could be an interesting recipe for hybrid builds, but just isn't worth it because of Perfect Roe.

There are several recipes like this where the cost/benefit of materials to reward is too marginal at best.
(specifically in filling writs).
And considering how many of these expensive-to-fill writs can be acquired, the drop rate might be too high - edging out writs more likely to be cost effective.

Thats my only beef with the recipe.

ProfessorKittyhawk

You're generalizing too much. I would use it for a tank. I don't know or have any interest in making the psijiic ambrosia so I wouldn't have any other use for perfect roe. And I'm sure there are others as well. It's worth is all in the eye of the beholder.

twev

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

You're generalizing too much. I would use it for a tank. I don't know or have any interest in making the psijiic ambrosia so I wouldn't have any other use for perfect roe. And I'm sure there are others as well. It's worth is all in the eye of the beholder.

Fine if you're finding benefit as a food source to augment your game play.

Costs too much to make to fill a writ.

Just saying.

GrumpyDuckling

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

You're generalizing too much. I would use it for a tank. I don't know or have any interest in making the psijiic ambrosia so I wouldn't have any other use for perfect roe. And I'm sure there are others as well. It's worth is all in the eye of the beholder.

So you use it then?

Strider_Roshin

I would use it, but yeah the perfect roe is not even worth it. I'll stick with Jewels of Misrule for my tank.

GrumpyDuckling

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I would use it, but yeah the perfect roe is not even worth it. I'll stick with Jewels of Misrule for my tank.

@Strider_Roshin

Just looked up Jewels of Misrule, that's a nice recipe. How does one acquire it?

Strider_Roshin

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I would use it, but yeah the perfect roe is not even worth it. I'll stick with Jewels of Misrule for my tank.

@Strider_Roshin

Just looked up Jewels of Misrule, that's a nice recipe. How does one acquire it?

It was part of the Jester Festival. You'll have to buy it if you want it now.

Tan9oSuccka

They need to up the amount of writs provided for doing these. I think they require two perfect roe and the return was 18 vouchers.

I try to sell these along with the ones requiring heijeiko.

obscure7

I've used it before as a tank in vet trials.

But yes, for writs they are way too expensive to make.

Waffennacht

I suddenly have the urge to binge fish

Aurie

I don't even bother to do the writ that demands that particular recipe. I have the recipe on 2 of my crafters, but having to fork out Perfect Roe to complete them is not an option for me. And you need eight....yes eight...of the recipe to hand it in. That's a minimum of 2 Perfect Roe.

F*** that.

worsttankever

I like it on non-vet characters for PVP - as without champion points, it is hard to get sustain for all 3 stats. And things like heavy armor or nightblade passives adding a % bonus are worthless if your base is zero.

I figure in nonvet your armor is basically "consumable" anyway since you need to upgrade every few levels.

Agree - I would like it to be cheaper to craft.

Denyiir

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

The inclusion of Perfect Roe as an ingredient means that no one in their right mind would actually use this recipe as a self-buff for their character - it's way too costly (both time and gold). Perfect Roe needs to be removed from the required ingredients for anyone to actually use this recipe - why not have the recipe require BOTH bervez juice and frost mirriam instead?

Could be an interesting recipe for hybrid builds, but just isn't worth it because of Perfect Roe.

Well I use it and know some other people who use it too. It's really great for stamblades since our most important skills are magicka based - cloak, fear (why zos?)and having extra magicka regen is really important. Of course I wouldn't mind if it cost less to make Also there is always a cheaper version of it - Jewels of misrule, a little weaker and without hp regen bonus.

supaskrub

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

They need to up the amount of writs provided for doing these. I think they require two perfect roe and the return was 18 vouchers.

I try to sell these along with the ones requiring heijeiko.

Hmmmm, i had one master writ that required Hakeijo and it rewarded 37 vouchers, £ for £ one of the most profitable writs i have come across.

Acrolas

The recipe is fine. I just don't want to eat bear butt.

Beardimus

Agreed, no one can afford the roe to use this bad boy as standard.

TequilaFire

Do the Master Angler achievement and you will have plenty of perfect roe.
I have over 100 in my craft bag.

GrumpyDuckling

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do the Master Angler achievement and you will have plenty of perfect roe.
I have over 100 in my craft bag.

I'm glad I'm not an achievement chaser because fishing is painfully boring in ESO (for my taste). If I could dive into the water with my Argonian and hunt the fish while I swim, then I might be interested.

ArchMikem

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

You're generalizing too much. I would use it for a tank. I don't know or have any interest in making the psijiic ambrosia so I wouldn't have any other use for perfect roe. And I'm sure there are others as well. It's worth is all in the eye of the beholder.

It's worth is determined if you're a full time Fisherman or not.

And also if you're rich enough to keep buying the stuff from Traders if not.

disintegr8

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do the Master Angler achievement and you will have plenty of perfect roe.
I have over 100 in my craft bag.

Agree, I only have one zone left to fish, have about 50 roe and 1800 fish still to filet. Been selling a few roe along the way.

twev

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do the Master Angler achievement and you will have plenty of perfect roe.
I have over 100 in my craft bag.

I hate fishing in RL.

abigfishy

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

They need to up the amount of writs provided for doing these. I think they require two perfect roe and the return was 18 vouchers.

I try to sell these along with the ones requiring heijeiko.

I am fairly sure I had one that needed perfect roe and gave around 7-10 vouchers. I couldn't sell it at any price.

Koensol

Jewels of misrule knocks this recepy out of the park. Who the hell cares about the health recovery?!

StereoLiz

I use it on stamblade in pvp and I think price is fine. 2k gold/hour is ok to me. Potions is comparable in price.

Azurya

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

The inclusion of Perfect Roe as an ingredient means that no one in their right mind would actually use this recipe as a self-buff for their character - it's way too costly (both time and gold). Perfect Roe needs to be removed from the required ingredients for anyone to actually use this recipe - why not have the recipe require BOTH bervez juice and frost mirriam instead?

Could be an interesting recipe for hybrid builds, but just isn't worth it because of Perfect Roe.

so what, use it or leave it

Prof_Bawbag

abigfishy wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

They need to up the amount of writs provided for doing these. I think they require two perfect roe and the return was 18 vouchers.

I try to sell these along with the ones requiring heijeiko.

I am fairly sure I had one that needed perfect roe and gave around 7-10 vouchers. I couldn't sell it at any price.

Yeah, i just shove those writs in the guild bank. Sometimes you can't even give them away for free.

supaskrub

I really can't see what the fuss is about, Perfect Roe is'nt bank breaking if you buy it (heck even an hours gold grinding in a public dungeon will give you enough to buy 2+ roe), if RNG is on your side you can catch it for free in a few minutes, you get 4x pots at a minimum of 2 hours (lots more time with provisioning passives unlocked) buff per pot giving 8 hours buff time (minimum) total per roe.

worsttankever

Koensol wrote: »

Jewels of misrule knocks this recepy out of the park. Who the hell cares about the health recovery?!

non-vampire heavy armor characters. Goes well with DK and NB passives as well.

Reverb

obscure7 wrote: »

I've used it before as a tank in vet trials.

But yes, for writs they are way too expensive to make.

I used to sell these, but then I started to feel bad for whoever buys them, and the sales prices aren't great anyway. Now I just destroy the Bear Haunch and Prismatic glyph writs.

Drachenfier

TequilaFire wrote: »

Do the Master Angler achievement and you will have plenty of perfect roe.
I have over 100 in my craft bag.

Ehhh...in completing that for Stonefalls (including Bleakrock/Bal Foyen) and Glenumbra (including Stros M'Kai and Betnikh) I've gotten 6 Perfect Roe. I caught a metric ton of fish to complete just those starting areas.