Battlegrounds: make deathmatch directly selectable

visionality

@ZOS:
I'm sure there are some fans of Dominance and Capture the Flag out there, but everyone I know despises both gamemodes and would prefer to play deathmatches only in Battlegrounds. It's surely not in your best interest to ignore peoples preferences, so pls add the option to select.

Just remove the "grab the bag" selection (which is pointless anyways cause there is no alternative, so what kind of choice is that ???) and instead make a list of 3: "Deathmatch", "Dominance" and "Capture the Flag". I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy - including me.

Solariken

I don't mind that it's a random game mode, I just hate that I get 1 deathmatch in 50 games played. Why can't it just be equal chance?

Betsararie

I do mind that it's only a random game mode.

All 3 game modes should be selectable, and there should be a random option as well.

It is ridiculous that we cannot queue by game mode.

emilyhyoyeon

yeah I did battlegrounds for the first just for the event, and I assumed the player chooses which of the 3 he wants to queue for. was really surprised

IcyDeadPeople

visionality wrote: »

@ZOS:
I'm sure there are some fans of Dominance and Capture the Flag out there, but everyone I know despises both gamemodes and would prefer to play deathmatches only in Battlegrounds. It's surely not in your best interest to ignore peoples preferences, so pls add the option to select.

Just remove the "grab the bag" selection (which is pointless anyways cause there is no alternative, so what kind of choice is that ???) and instead make a list of 3: "Deathmatch", "Dominance" and "Capture the Flag". I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy - including me.

Yes, really wish this were an option.

Don't mind CTF, but I'd prefer to play deathmatch over and over. Domination is the only mode I dislike as it encourages people to just run around to all the flags. So either you have fun and get into a lot of fights but lose the match, or you win the match by running away from fights, which is kind of a boring way to play IMO.

Looking forward to trying the new mode.

zacvanm

I got 2 TDMs in a row today. I felt like the luckiest person alive. Then I didn't see another TDM for a couple hours. They can leave the Grab Bag option but also make the three modes individually selectable. I HATE capture the relic. Domination isn't bad. And I'd like to try the new mode next patch.

Vercingetorix

I seem to ONLY get Deathmatch and I hate the damn mode. I prefer a mode where thinking and strategy is required. Deathmatch isn't a team-based activity at all - everyone just runs off and gets killed...

TheDoomsdayMonster

visionality wrote: »

@ZOS:
I'm sure there are some fans of Dominance and Capture the Flag out there, but everyone I know despises both gamemodes and would prefer to play deathmatches only in Battlegrounds. It's surely not in your best interest to ignore peoples preferences, so pls add the option to select.

Just remove the "grab the bag" selection (which is pointless anyways cause there is no alternative, so what kind of choice is that ???) and instead make a list of 3: "Deathmatch", "Dominance" and "Capture the Flag". I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy - including me.

I 100% agree with you...

I don't care one bit for the other modes; Deathmatch is the only one for me..

AkromaAngelOfWrath

visionality wrote: »

@ZOS:
I'm sure there are some fans of Dominance and Capture the Flag out there, but everyone I know despises both gamemodes and would prefer to play deathmatches only in Battlegrounds. It's surely not in your best interest to ignore peoples preferences, so pls add the option to select.

Just remove the "grab the bag" selection (which is pointless anyways cause there is no alternative, so what kind of choice is that ???) and instead make a list of 3: "Deathmatch", "Dominance" and "Capture the Flag". I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy - including me.

This needs doing, even more than an option to play pre-made groups only/random only/don't mind either.
I've been playing battlegrounds during the holiday event to get the 50 killing blows achievement and I've really enjoyed the deathmatch games, and if they had the option to choose mode I would continue playing even after the event ends.
As it currently is though, now that I have the holiday achievement completed, there's no reason to keep playing unless someone I know needs help getting the BG win achievement.

MehrunesFlagon

Yes please do this.I treat capture the flag like deathmatch anyway.Probably would *** less people off if I could select the one I want to do anyway.Grab bag was a terrible idea.

MehrunesFlagon

odd that pi.ss was censored.

baratron

I love Domination and I hate Deathmatch! Domination is about tactics whereas Deathmatch is about being physically good at playing the game. As a disabled person with bad hands, I literally can't keep up the mobility needed for Deathmatch (or duels) - I can move OR I can attack but I can't attack while moving. Unless it's an ability that you fire off without any aiming required. Which is why I normally heal - except in Battlegrounds, you can't survive by only shielding and healing.

Last night we did 9 Battlegrounds and got 5 Deathmatches, 2 Dominations, and 2 Capture the Sigil. I would have much rather done 6 Dominations and 3 Capture the Sigils, you know?

Sylosi

I guess the reason they don't let you choose the mode is because it will make matchmaking/queue times worse and the player pool is I assume relatively small, I mean even dedicated PvP games with vastly larger playerbases like Overwatch use random map selection for competitive for optimal matchmaking/queues.

Enodoc

Sylosi wrote: »

I guess the reason they don't let you choose the mode is because it will make matchmaking/queue times worse and the player pool is I assume relatively small, I mean even dedicated PvP games with vastly larger playerbases like Overwatch use random map selection for competitive for optimal matchmaking/queues.

That's exactly it. They said this back before battlegrounds launched that they didn't want to split the prospective BG players into 6 different queues, as it would make matches for the least popular game mode much less frequent. They said they may look into it again after adding more game modes.

notimetocare

Deathmatch is absolutely skill-less in this game. Its all about execute spam on targets you don't fight. Needs reworked or killed off

Tasear

I feel it would allow the groups develop are thier own. Though I sorta understand because I wouldn't have got to enjoy deathmatchs without it. At last capture the relic is very fun.

Had a game where I got pulled into the losing team. Yet the battle went neck and neck 2nd place caught up to first. Then suddenly us third place got there too... where we pushed and won the game. Yeah that was fun as took some serious teamwork and a without voice chat.

Karm1cOne

I like the unknown selection. It makes it difficult to have a setup or group composition for every scenario. As it is, decision s for gear and group have to be adjusted on the fly. I would also prefer to have a solo only queue, where everyone enters without groupmates. It would be interesting to not go against obvious premades.

Meld777

I am not a fan of Deathmatch and really like the fact that out of 100+ games, I had only 2 Deathmatches so far (and only in the beginning). But this is also proof of some bug and unfair towards people that prefer it.

P.S.: I don't like Deathmatch because it's the most unfriendly mode towards pugs. A group of 4 can be outsmarted in the other modes. In Deathmatch - no chance. They just stick together with a hardcore healer and a tank, while your pugs keep feeding them points.

OutLaw_Nynx

I can't find the quote but I believe they have it this way so people won't camp on one game mode. I don't understand why it matters. Some people just like DMs.

Golnebo

visionality wrote: »

@ZOS:
I'm sure there are some fans of Dominance and Capture the Flag out there, but everyone I know despises both gamemodes and would prefer to play deathmatches only in Battlegrounds. It's surely not in your best interest to ignore peoples preferences, so pls add the option to select.

Just remove the "grab the bag" selection (which is pointless anyways cause there is no alternative, so what kind of choice is that ???) and instead make a list of 3: "Deathmatch", "Dominance" and "Capture the Flag". I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy - including me.

Yes! This! Upon first maintenance please ZOS. Thank you!

NBrookus

Enodoc wrote: »

Sylosi wrote: »

I guess the reason they don't let you choose the mode is because it will make matchmaking/queue times worse and the player pool is I assume relatively small, I mean even dedicated PvP games with vastly larger playerbases like Overwatch use random map selection for competitive for optimal matchmaking/queues.

That's exactly it. They said this back before battlegrounds launched that they didn't want to split the prospective BG players into 6 different queues, as it would make matches for the least popular game mode much less frequent. They said they may look into it again after adding more game modes.

Adding MORE game modes is going to split the queue even more. I don't do BGs because I can't queue up for what I want, but to get the achieve went in the other night. We got 3 deathmatches in a row and I couldn't believe our luck.

scipionumatia

I think they will have to add a select your game mode, just right now they have grab bag so you have to try all the game modes. its really not that bad, id prefer to play capture the flag and TDM

Makato

Maybe if ZOS added actual value to the KDA system in gamemodes like CTF and DOM it would be ok but the dissapointment is real when your team gets over 30 kills and still loses to a team with 20+ deaths and no kills nor assists to be seen ... the flag games are complete *** to begin with since there is no actual battle needed to win the BATTLEground... call it "stay away from me's" for all i care but those game modes are no where near to ne called a battlegroud...

MrBetadine

Let us disable DLC dungeons in random daily and we can talk about battleground gamemode

idk

It's highly doubtful Zos will permit us to queue for specific BG types as it will slow down the queue.

Meld777

MrBetadine wrote: »

Let us disable DLC dungeons in random daily and we can talk about battleground gamemode

Or just L2P.

Enodoc

NBrookus wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Sylosi wrote: »

I guess the reason they don't let you choose the mode is because it will make matchmaking/queue times worse and the player pool is I assume relatively small, I mean even dedicated PvP games with vastly larger playerbases like Overwatch use random map selection for competitive for optimal matchmaking/queues.

That's exactly it. They said this back before battlegrounds launched that they didn't want to split the prospective BG players into 6 different queues, as it would make matches for the least popular game mode much less frequent. They said they may look into it again after adding more game modes.

Adding MORE game modes is going to split the queue even more. I don't do BGs because I can't queue up for what I want, but to get the achieve went in the other night. We got 3 deathmatches in a row and I couldn't believe our luck.

Not if there's multiple game modes under one queue type. At the moment we only have one of each (one Deathmatch, one Mobile Flag, one Land Grab), but the assumption is that when they add more Deathmatch modes or more Land Grab modes, then they may think about a queue for each type. I haven't checked on PTS but the new BG mode there is Chaosball, which sounds like it could be another Mobile Flag mode (with the "ball" being the "flag").

Waffennacht

I'd love death match only. Would love the power ups to be gone too