Can we buff NB's "Siphoning Strikes" after Horns of Da Reach

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Title says it all.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|
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    @Ch4mpTW I want infinity health
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  • Supernatural
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    It is fine as it is. Before Morrowind it was way too overpowered.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Sarato wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW I want infinity health

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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Can we make it so only one NB in a 30m radius can use it. That would be cool game play that would encourage teamwork.
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on July 26, 2017 2:55AM
  • max_only
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    You all make me sick lol

    It takes magicka to gain magicka! How does that make sense? Ooooo, so what if it heals a little now?nightblades have so so so many self healing abilities.

    Revert Siphoning Attacks to pre Morrowind state, let me sustain again.

    Or make it so Dark Deal costs magicka to gain magicka. No? Sounds ridiculous doesn't it. Yeah, that's right.
    Edited by max_only on July 26, 2017 3:01AM
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    max_only wrote: »
    You all make me sick lol

    It takes magicka to gain magicka! How does that make sense? Ooooo, so what if it heals a little now?nightblades have so so so many self healing abilities.

    Revert Siphoning Attacks to pre Morrowind state, let me sustain again.

    Or make it so Dark Deal costs magicka to gain magicka. No? Sounds ridiculous doesn't it. Yeah, that's right.

    I'm confused. Lol.
  • max_only
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    Siphoning Attacks is a sustain skill,
    . It used to be that you cast the buff and your light attack weaving would give you back stamina and magicka. The key was to keep it up all the time for a constant source of regen. It made me a much more self sufficient tank.

    Now it's a skill that returns magic and health over time when you cast it (using magicka) and a dump of magicka at the end if you allow it to run out. It costs magicka to gain magicka. That doesn't make logical sense.

    Dark Deal takes away one pool to give to the other -- that makes sense. They need to revert Siphoning Attacks or they need to tell the truth about wanting to nerf sustain skills. If they were being fair about all the sustain skills in all the classes they would have actually changed Dark Deal, but they gave it a .2 second extra cast time. That's a effing joke.
    Edited by max_only on July 26, 2017 3:52AM
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
  • Kihamai
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    I'd be happy if they just changed the resource costs so that the magicka regen morph costs stamina and the stamina regen morph costs magicka.
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  • max_only
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    Calysis wrote: »
    I'd be happy if they just changed the resource costs so that the magicka regen morph costs stamina and the stamina regen morph costs magicka.

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    I put this skill off my both bars after updated .
    ZOS , if you feel most other players dislike NB and you cannot balance well , just delete this class and provide us a class re-pick token , I don't mind to re-roll.Maybe sorc ? Right ?
    BUT please don't destroy our useful class abilities continously , it made me sick!
  • BlazingDynamo
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    DPS ain't everything. The change made it almost impossible to tank as a nightblade. Which is what I use to do since game launch. Can't be done anymore, change it back so I can tank again please.
  • Feanor
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    I thought the "Title says it all" day was yesterday...
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  • KeiruNicrom
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    This guy with the "title says all" line. This is the third ive noticed from you man. Elaborate. You will get no recognition or activity from ZOS by being vague. Give some details about HOW you want these NB skills buffed or nerfed. Examples of their usefulness post buffing/nerfing.

    Seriously all these threads do is fill up general discussion with nonsense. All of which could have been decent topics of discussion yet are wasted due to lack of details. Cmon man, i want a buff of siphoning strikes too but you gotta try a little harder than this
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    This guy with the "title says all" line. This is the third ive noticed from you man. Elaborate. You will get no recognition or activity from ZOS by being vague. Give some details about HOW you want these NB skills buffed or nerfed. Examples of their usefulness post buffing/nerfing.

    Seriously all these threads do is fill up general discussion with nonsense. All of which could have been decent topics of discussion yet are wasted due to lack of details. Cmon man, i want a buff of siphoning strikes too but you gotta try a little harder than this

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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    DPS ain't everything. The change made it almost impossible to tank as a nightblade. Which is what I use to do since game launch. Can't be done anymore, change it back so I can tank again please.

    Honestly, if we're messing around with it, I kinda wish Siphoning Strikes became a toggle. Like bound armor. Return Health on attacks, then morph it to return Health and Stamina or Health and Magicka while active.

    To be fair, part of why I wish this thing was a toggle is simply because the visual is cool. Also not having to micromanage it would be a perk, and having permanent vampiric health return would be a boon for tanks. Should make NB tanks viable again, and would give them a distinct flavor from the other classes' tanks.

    EDIT: Typo
    Edited by starkerealm on July 26, 2017 9:35AM
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    I love encountering nightblade tanks when I'm running on my magtemp healer.

    We Nb tanks need to stick together!

    If you want to stick by your "play as you want" or "build diversity" motto you need to rethink Siphoning Attacks ZOS, the entire game isn't dps or Gtfo
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    Elemental drain costs nothing and get magic back and major breach. Siphoning/ leeching seems to be not clearly thought out. Not many ever used it when it was toggle and lost %20 weapon damage.
  • BlazingDynamo
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    DPS ain't everything. The change made it almost impossible to tank as a nightblade. Which is what I use to do since game launch. Can't be done anymore, change it back so I can tank again please.

    Honestly, if we're messing around with it, I kinda wish Siphoning Strikes became a toggle. Like bound armor. Return Health on attacks, then morph it to return Health and Stamina or Health and Magicka while active.

    To be fair, part of why I wish this thing was a toggle is simply because the visual is cool. Also not having to micromanage it would be a perk, and having permanent vampiric health return would be a boon for tanks. Should make NB tanks viable again, and would give them a distinct flavor from the other classes' tanks.

    EDIT: Typo

    Wasn't the one morpth a toggle? I think it dropped your weapon and spell power by 20% and returned health on light and heavy attacks. I never used it but liked the idea of a toggle
  • Rikkof
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    No, we can't
    NB doesnt need buffs, it needs nerfs
  • Danksta
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    max_only wrote: »
    Siphoning Attacks is a sustain skill,
    . It used to be that you cast the buff and your light attack weaving would give you back stamina and magicka. The key was to keep it up all the time for a constant source of regen. It made me a much more self sufficient tank.

    Now it's a skill that returns magic and health over time when you cast it (using magicka) and a dump of magicka at the end if you allow it to run out. It costs magicka to gain magicka. That doesn't make logical sense.

    Dark Deal takes away one pool to give to the other -- that makes sense. They need to revert Siphoning Attacks or they need to tell the truth about wanting to nerf sustain skills. If they were being fair about all the sustain skills in all the classes they would have actually changed Dark Deal, but they gave it a .2 second extra cast time. That's a effing joke.

    No thanks. I don't want all classes to be the same with the exception of the names and animations of their skills.
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  • Vercingetorix
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    There are saptanks here that would like to have a word with you. DPS alone is not indicative of class performance.
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    Well it was overperforming before it was nerfed, but they nerfed it too hard imo.

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  • The_Duke
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    DPS ain't everything. The change made it almost impossible to tank as a nightblade. Which is what I use to do since game launch. Can't be done anymore, change it back so I can tank again please.

    Ive been a saptank as my main since console launch and it seems like every update they make it harder and harder to tank with it. Its now my crafter and I run stamplar now. Which is also seen its share of brutal nerfs. Loss of major mending and repent were slaps in the face.
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Why...? There's nothing wrong with NB DPS. :|

    DPS ain't everything. The change made it almost impossible to tank as a nightblade. Which is what I use to do since game launch. Can't be done anymore, change it back so I can tank again please.

    Honestly, if we're messing around with it, I kinda wish Siphoning Strikes became a toggle. Like bound armor. Return Health on attacks, then morph it to return Health and Stamina or Health and Magicka while active.

    To be fair, part of why I wish this thing was a toggle is simply because the visual is cool. Also not having to micromanage it would be a perk, and having permanent vampiric health return would be a boon for tanks. Should make NB tanks viable again, and would give them a distinct flavor from the other classes' tanks.

    EDIT: Typo

    Wasn't the one morpth a toggle? I think it dropped your weapon and spell power by 20% and returned health on light and heavy attacks. I never used it but liked the idea of a toggle

    Yeah, one morph was, in the last iteration before Morrowind.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    It really does need to be better though. Personally I would like the heal to scale off of WD/SD and the appropriate max stat. Stamblades specifically need better Survivability.
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    It really does need to be better though. Personally I would like the heal to scale off of WD/SD and the appropriate max stat. Stamblades specifically need better Survivability.

    It should give minor mending to the nb...if not that skill, then some other skill like power extraction (wich needs buffed regardless)

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