Idea to increase usefulness of Cutting Dive.

Casul

It seems to be missing an effect in my opinion. And I would love to see it get a unique effect that would be unique to the warden itself.

My idea is this.

Give cutting dive a new effect that upon hitting an enemy the cliff racer latches onto the enemy dealing X physical damage (lower then normal about 25% nerf) and claws them for 10 seconds. For the duration the enemy takes X bleed damage and has their stamina, health, and magicka regen lowered by 15%. Only 3 can be active at a time.

This gives stamina warden a dot while allowing them to still use weapon skills as their burst. Being undodgeable it will force people to play smarter with resources as a warden could dry their resource pools out fast.

Opinions? Ideas? Critiques?

Zordrage

hell no... im getting spammed by that Bird hard enough as it is by every single warden in existence...

i prefer if they would give them another attack move instead... so they all not just spam that bird..... also nerf the bird so it will not be OP if they combine that with the new ability and would stop people spamming that 1 ability all day to kill people...

Casul

So perhaps we could get rid of the upfront damage and leave the dot? Then it would be dumb to spam because you would not get the dot effect.

Zordrage

BuildMan wrote: »

So perhaps we could get rid of the upfront damage and leave the dot? Then it would be dumb to spam because you would not get the dot effect.

thats allready better... but the prob is then it ends up too weak for a morph....

Baconlad

Im not gonna lie...the bird sticking to ur target instead of kamakazi into ur face sounds bamf.

Baconlad

Rofl...latches to ur toons face and beats him for three seconds causing DOT or a major main debuff

Baconlad

Maim*

Vaoh

Not a good idea imo due to how powerful that would be, especially in an Xv1 scenario. It'd take the apparantly OP bird spam to a whole new level.

The smart way to go about this is simple imo.

People complain about zergling Magicka Wardens spamming Cliff Racer from far away. Give the 15% ranged damage bonus morph to Stamina Wardens instead, so it can have great synergy with those much-advertised Bow builds. This supports the archetype (surprisingly viable in endgame) and makes the annoying spam of a PvP Magicka Warden's Cliff Racer about 15% weaker.

Afterward, Magicka Wardens can gain a buff that heavily supports their severely lacking PvE DPS, where the ranged morph actually tends to hinder them. Something like allowing Animal Companion abilities to increase an enemy's Cold Damage taken, and possibly give the Magicka morph of Cliff Racer a Cold Damage DoT could help them tremedously.

Either way, the best thing that could happen to a Stamina Warden wouod be:
1. Give them their 6% physical damage dealt back
2. Give Cutting Dive the 15% increased damage done to support and synergize with Bow builds

Besides those, Warden as a whole is heavily lacking in passively dealt damage (like a Sorcs Implosion, Templars Burning Light, etc).

Casul

How about this.

The cliff racer latches on to the target dealing X bleed damagd over 10 seconds and setting then off balance for 5 seconds.

IxskullzxI

That would be ridiculously broken. Hit them with a bird and a resource poison and gg.

Yubarius

I'm almost positive this ability and the other morph are UNDODGEABLE so no thanks.

Casul

Yes but the only reason it's bad is because it's a spam move. If it was a dot then it wouldn't be nearly as bad. Im not saying it has to be 3k damage a second but a small 1k dot would be fine.

Masel

Just make it give a unique debuff (minor breach for magicka morph and increased physical damage taken by X% for stamina morph or something) for the whole group or a synergy. This game needs more group play skills, especially synergies that are not bound to ultimate abilities.

Thrymbauld

Synergy would actually be a great idea.

It'd do absolutely nothing when you're spamming a runner or during a keep defense/take, because there would be nobody there to trigger it anyway. It'd be a good way to add a utility to the skill that would not affect the vast majority of PvP situations that bird spam works in so it wouldn't imbalance the ability in the places that it already shines while adding something to the places that it doesn't.