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Early Update 15 builds?

Bonzodog01
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Has anyone started on or attempted to theorycraft some early U15 builds yet?

I have a sneaking suspicion that @Alcast is possibly going to be making some significant changes to his builds.

I would love to start a new char, but I am now holding off until I see some solid theorycrafting around the U15 changes.
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  • Narvuntien
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    Alcast is probably waiting until his EU server characters get ported.

    Gilliam the rogue is the theorycrafter that has been streaming his findings recently. He prefers nbs though

    Shadow + precise has been the best for him...mostly.
  • Bonzodog01
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    Alcast is probably waiting until his EU server characters get ported.

    Gilliam the rogue is the theorycrafter that has been streaming his findings recently. He prefers nbs though

    Shadow + precise has been the best for him...mostly.

    @Narvuntien Could you give me a link to Gilliams channel(s) please? Struggling to find them.
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  • Alcast
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    I am starting to test stuff on PTS this week. No point creating builds yet as ZOS said that more balance changes are coming in last PTS week update. So this week I am going to test differnt things and the next week gonna start "building" and i hope I can have all builds ready on my website till Horns of the Reach goes live.
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  • Narvuntien
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    Alcast is probably waiting until his EU server characters get ported.

    Gilliam the rogue is the theorycrafter that has been streaming his findings recently. He prefers nbs though

    Shadow + precise has been the best for him...mostly.

    @Narvuntien Could you give me a link to Gilliams channel(s) please? Struggling to find them.


    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1tq9cpMI7uzD7zRakve3nw
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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  • MarzAttakz
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I am starting to test stuff on PTS this week. No point creating builds yet as ZOS said that more balance changes are coming in last PTS week update. So this week I am going to test differnt things and the next week gonna start "building" and i hope I can have all builds ready on my website till Horns of the Reach goes live.

    @Alcast

    Good luck with that man, keep your *** together, as entertaining as your facepalm moments are (regarding balance decisions, especially when reading patch notes) we don't want you to break.

    I know you'll be extremely busy but will you be considering some pvp aspects too?
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  • Alcast
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    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    I am starting to test stuff on PTS this week. No point creating builds yet as ZOS said that more balance changes are coming in last PTS week update. So this week I am going to test differnt things and the next week gonna start "building" and i hope I can have all builds ready on my website till Horns of the Reach goes live.

    @Alcast

    Good luck with that man, keep your *** together, as entertaining as your facepalm moments are (regarding balance decisions, especially when reading patch notes) we don't want you to break.

    I know you'll be extremely busy but will you be considering some pvp aspects too?

    Ye I will work on pvp builds as well. Already got one ready actually: https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build-horns-of-the-reach/

    Keep in mind, stuff still might change
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  • Ranger209
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    Alcast wrote: »
    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    I am starting to test stuff on PTS this week. No point creating builds yet as ZOS said that more balance changes are coming in last PTS week update. So this week I am going to test differnt things and the next week gonna start "building" and i hope I can have all builds ready on my website till Horns of the Reach goes live.

    @Alcast

    Good luck with that man, keep your *** together, as entertaining as your facepalm moments are (regarding balance decisions, especially when reading patch notes) we don't want you to break.

    I know you'll be extremely busy but will you be considering some pvp aspects too?

    Ye I will work on pvp builds as well. Already got one ready actually: https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build-horns-of-the-reach/

    Keep in mind, stuff still might change

    I am curious about your distribution with cp pertaining to hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned, and ironclad. With ironclad and thick skinned being easier to raise to a higher percentage why not put more points into those instead of hardy and elemental defender? Are there a lot of abilities that get around the direct damage and damage over time reductions of those two champion points that do get reduced by hardy or elemental defender? I thought these all kind of worked in conjunction with each other on virtually all skills. Even ground targets seem to have a direct damage and/or damage over time aspect to them. Have been wondering this since morrowind was released.
  • Biro123
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    Alcast wrote: »
    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    I am starting to test stuff on PTS this week. No point creating builds yet as ZOS said that more balance changes are coming in last PTS week update. So this week I am going to test differnt things and the next week gonna start "building" and i hope I can have all builds ready on my website till Horns of the Reach goes live.

    @Alcast

    Good luck with that man, keep your *** together, as entertaining as your facepalm moments are (regarding balance decisions, especially when reading patch notes) we don't want you to break.

    I know you'll be extremely busy but will you be considering some pvp aspects too?

    Ye I will work on pvp builds as well. Already got one ready actually: https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build-horns-of-the-reach/

    Keep in mind, stuff still might change

    Early to say, but I'm not sure that's gonna work. Depending what your opponent are running, you're gonna need more healing, I think with this patch, not less.
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  • UrbanMonk
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    Best is to keep the builds to yourself till the patch actually goes live. However it does exclude reporting of bugs and such (though ZOS is hopeless in that department) but any unique idea, keep it hidden or else RIP even before your patch download is finished.
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  • Darlgon
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    They just released set changes yesterday.

    They will probably change/tweak them.

    So, no.. dont expect anything til closer to or the day of HoR launch, because nothing is stable until then.
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  • Scyantific
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    People have builds already, they're just reluctant to share them out of fear of them becoming FOTM, or devs nerfing them before the update even goes live.
  • Gan Xing
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    I was helping Gilliam yesterday during his live stream. He was mostly testing out the changes to equipment. I'm not gonna share a build I came up with, it will require a lot of farming, but that is how life is...
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  • Kanar
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    With the buff to 1-4pc critical values and leviathan 5th piece, high crit builds will be easy. Combine with passive class crit damage boosts, minor force and the champion star.
  • Gan Xing
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    Kanar wrote: »
    With the buff to 1-4pc critical values and leviathan 5th piece, high crit builds will be easy. Combine with passive class crit damage boosts, minor force and the champion star.

    Thing is, people still run impen in PvP
    Gan Xing - Crafting Nightblade
    Elrana Tinuviel - Hybrid Dragonknight
    Elentári Peregrine - Sorcerer "bank"
    Rán Xīng - Hybrid Templar
    Laurïsil Imlachwen - Stamina Templar
    Helotë Tinuviel - Hybrid/Magicka Warden
    Odin banker - obv banker
    Yan of the Red Mountain - lvl 3 DK - not sure when I will work on em

    Seeks the unusual and unique playstyles...
  • DocFrost72
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    Gan Xing wrote: »
    Kanar wrote: »
    With the buff to 1-4pc critical values and leviathan 5th piece, high crit builds will be easy. Combine with passive class crit damage boosts, minor force and the champion star.

    Thing is, people still run impen in PvP

    Because crits hit harder than regular attacks. Even with 7 impen, crits do more damage. Only way to really stop that is stack to crit resist cap, but that gets outdone by anyone modifying crit dmg (read: templars, nightblades :p)
  • Kanar
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    Gan Xing wrote: »
    Kanar wrote: »
    With the buff to 1-4pc critical values and leviathan 5th piece, high crit builds will be easy. Combine with passive class crit damage boosts, minor force and the champion star.

    Thing is, people still run impen in PvP

    I was talking about PvE.
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