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Charged on Staves in 3.1.1

Morvane
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I have precise, sharpened infused and charged
Im very interested does infused and charged staves will be good in pve for mana sorc or not?
may be not BiS, but how good? please help
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    It depends on the situation. In a group where ppl are casting ele drain, stam builds run NMG and support gives War Horns precice/shadow will probably be BiS.

    Charged is good for one person to always off-balance the target but with multiple mag sorcs its not really needed. In 4-man groups without others running wall of shock its supposed to be the best because the whole group gets 10% bonus dmg via the exploiter passive and minor vulnerabity.
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    It depends on the situation. In a group where ppl are casting ele drain, stam builds run NMG and support gives War Horns precice/shadow will probably be BiS.

    Charged is good for one person to always off-balance the target but with multiple mag sorcs its not really needed. In 4-man groups without others running wall of shock its supposed to be the best because the whole group gets 10% bonus dmg via the exploiter passive and minor vulnerabity.

    It's more like 16%, each is 8% damage increase for each. Good when less than 5 sorcs in group.

    Also for OP I would assume precise, sharpened, infused choice will depend on luck and need.
  • DeHei
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    It depends on the situation. In a group where ppl are casting ele drain, stam builds run NMG and support gives War Horns precice/shadow will probably be BiS.

    Charged is good for one person to always off-balance the target but with multiple mag sorcs its not really needed. In 4-man groups without others running wall of shock its supposed to be the best because the whole group gets 10% bonus dmg via the exploiter passive and minor vulnerabity.
    Tasear wrote: »
    It depends on the situation. In a group where ppl are casting ele drain, stam builds run NMG and support gives War Horns precice/shadow will probably be BiS.

    Charged is good for one person to always off-balance the target but with multiple mag sorcs its not really needed. In 4-man groups without others running wall of shock its supposed to be the best because the whole group gets 10% bonus dmg via the exploiter passive and minor vulnerabity.

    It's more like 16%, each is 8% damage increase for each. Good when less than 5 sorcs in group.

    Also for OP I would assume precise, sharpened, infused choice will depend on luck and need.

    I really think that a charged staff could be work really well for soloplayers, but only when Force Shock is used, because the chance for all effects are increased ;)
    Edited by DeHei on July 24, 2017 10:48AM
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  • Morvane
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    thanks a lot for answers
    some were veery usefu for me
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  • theamazingx
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    Tasear wrote: »
    It depends on the situation. In a group where ppl are casting ele drain, stam builds run NMG and support gives War Horns precice/shadow will probably be BiS.

    Charged is good for one person to always off-balance the target but with multiple mag sorcs its not really needed. In 4-man groups without others running wall of shock its supposed to be the best because the whole group gets 10% bonus dmg via the exploiter passive and minor vulnerabity.

    It's more like 16%, each is 8% damage increase for each. Good when less than 5 sorcs in group.

    Also for OP I would assume precise, sharpened, infused choice will depend on luck and need.
    Minor Vuln is 8%, but the exploiter on offbalance targets is 10%.
  • Masel
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    I'm running it on live in every content that there is and it is awesome. Your own DPS will be a little subpar as the overall stats you have will be lower, but it is a great and useful buff to the whole group. With HotR, concussion will be nerfed to 4 seconds, so it will definitely be needed.
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  • DeHei
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    Masel92 wrote: »
    I'm running it on live in every content that there is and it is awesome. Your own DPS will be a little subpar as the overall stats you have will be lower, but it is a great and useful buff to the whole group. With HotR, concussion will be nerfed to 4 seconds, so it will definitely be needed.

    I know that your stats can be a bit lower then with a nirnhoned staff for example..
    But you should do more damage with it in solo playing too? Can you make tests on the dummy?
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  • Jim_Pipp
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    With status effects now scaling off of max mag and spell damage I think charged got a major buff. Although the patch notes say damage will be relatively unchanged (except burning) I wonder if builds that stack mag and spell damage will be buffed further, although it is the off-balance/exploiter combo that will give the biggest damage increase.

    If anyone is on the pts can you test if the damage from status effects are affected by sets that increase the appropriate damage (e.g. sun set buffs burning, netches for shock, etc). With the changes to status effects I worry zos may overlook interactions like that.
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  • Morvane
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    so it was clever decision to ask for free 2 IA staves, lightning infused and fire charged :smiley:
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  • Narvuntien
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    Gilliam the rouge did a test and a charged lightning staff was the highest DPS achieved.

    The issue is that it only works if exactly one of you is using the build so you'll have to co-ordinate with your group.
    Edited by Narvuntien on July 25, 2017 5:37AM
  • DeHei
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    Morvane wrote: »
    so it was clever decision to ask for free 2 IA staves, lightning infused and fire charged :smiley:

    I would prefer a lightningstaff with this 3x damage skill from destrostaffskilltree (sry forgot the name actually). I would like if anybody would test it ;)
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    Gilliam the rouge did a test and a charged lightning staff was the highest DPS achieved.

    The issue is that it only works if exactly one of you is using the build so you'll have to co-ordinate with your group.

    Have you allready tested it with with the lightningdamageenchant too?
    Edited by DeHei on July 25, 2017 9:20AM
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  • Narvuntien
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    DeHei wrote: »
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    Gilliam the rouge did a test and a charged lightning staff was the highest DPS achieved.

    The issue is that it only works if exactly one of you is using the build so you'll have to co-ordinate with your group.

    Have you allready tested it with with the lightningdamageenchant too?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ef6zXcZeM
  • Morvane
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    great
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  • DeHei
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    DeHei wrote: »
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    Gilliam the rouge did a test and a charged lightning staff was the highest DPS achieved.

    The issue is that it only works if exactly one of you is using the build so you'll have to co-ordinate with your group.

    Have you allready tested it with with the lightningdamageenchant too?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ef6zXcZeM

    Ty. Really helpful video. I hope he test a charged lightningstaff too ;)
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