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That's it, last time I'm running vMA for real

humpalicous
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Went in for the first time since the Morrowind patch and just completed it.

Worst experience I've had by far in the last month or so. I was playing very poorly having been away from that god-forsaken place for a while, so that wasn't adding any sprinkles of joy.

And what did I get?

A Maelstrom Powered Sword, literally the worst loot possible. I know, I know, it's RNG, but it still feels like crap that I had put myself through that kind of frustration and anger over a video game, only to be rewarded with a kick in the buttocks.

Just had to vent a little, not going back into that place again, screw the weapons it's not worth the anger and frustration. Which then leads to a rather serious question:

Why on earth would you lock some of the best gear in the game behind pure solo content in an MMO? Shouldn't the best gear (in this case I'm talking about the bow and destro staves) be rewarded to those who complete the hardest group content?

Just a thought.
  • humpalicous
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    Edit: I have a bow and lightning staff, just want better traits.
  • ccfeeling
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    They having fun when u feel upset :smile:
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Went in for the first time since the Morrowind patch and just completed it.

    Worst experience I've had by far in the last month or so. I was playing very poorly having been away from that god-forsaken place for a while, so that wasn't adding any sprinkles of joy.

    And what did I get?

    A Maelstrom Powered Sword, literally the worst loot possible. I know, I know, it's RNG, but it still feels like crap that I had put myself through that kind of frustration and anger over a video game, only to be rewarded with a kick in the buttocks.

    Just had to vent a little, not going back into that place again, screw the weapons it's not worth the anger and frustration. Which then leads to a rather serious question:

    Why on earth would you lock some of the best gear in the game behind pure solo content in an MMO? Shouldn't the best gear (in this case I'm talking about the bow and destro staves) be rewarded to those who complete the hardest group content?

    Just a thought.

    5 pc Twilight's Embrace
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  • TheCaptainJosh
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    It has been said that a token system would be VMA's saving grace, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. The only time I enjoyed tolerated the RNG was during the Orsinium anniversary. My latest run was rewarded with a charged dagger so I feel your pain OP.
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  • Mettaricana
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    Cleared it once literally cannot clear it again things that didnt kill me last time devouring me this time. .. stuck on final round i some how won last time ignoring half the mechanics break a crustal knocked off break another fall off now i shatter all 3 in one go and boss rages so hard he just decimates me in one go... 80 tries in a row i bought a new controller as my old one is legit ripped in half
  • pema
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    Rng in this game is broke. And Intotaly agree on a token system, at least you could work towards something.

    Please never add a solo trail again zos, it's such a bad expiernce for so many people.
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  • SelfTherapy
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    I gave up when I got 4 bows in a row. Lol
  • SoLooney
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    The next dlc is balancing weapon traits, no need to bang your head against a wall for sharpened weapons, but that being said, still looking for my sharpened bow, and i am outta there
  • ForsakenSin
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    Cleared it once literally cannot clear it again things that didnt kill me last time devouring me this time. .. stuck on final round i some how won last time ignoring half the mechanics break a crustal knocked off break another fall off now i shatter all 3 in one go and boss rages so hard he just decimates me in one go... 80 tries in a row i bought a new controller as my old one is legit ripped in half

    Damm i noticed that as well!

    im glad i was not the only one ps RIP controller
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  • Inklings
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    I have kept all my vMA weapons i have obtained over the near 2 years vMA has been out. I'm still without the weapon i want most, an inferno Sharpened Stick and i have collected 212 weapons now! After tonight i decided to make a google spread sheet showing my full list of obtained vMA weapons that i can update day to day as i get them. My numbers show how just ridiculous the RNG system is and why we need a token system or better yet a socketed trait system.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h6x83SeV7WDemRsVU3jhepzLFBmLvh90Y7JSvRzA5R8/edit#gid=0
  • Beardimus
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    It's about mindset.

    It's great solo content that teaches you about your build and gets easier as you learn the mechanics, and pushes you to improve.

    If you try to grind it, or farm it then yes like all content in this game it ruins it. Forget the weopons, they aren't that epic now anyway, just play it to get better and let's the weopons come as they wil
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  • Beardimus
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    @Mettaricana what exactly are you doing when that happens?

    Last boss is one of the easiest once you know the mechanics, its just about sequencing and use of sigils. What bit is killing you?
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  • Qbiken
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    pema wrote: »
    Rng in this game is broke. And Intotaly agree on a token system, at least you could work towards something.

    Please never add a solo trail again zos, it's such a bad expiernce for so many people.

    And at the same time a very pleasant/fun experience for so many others as well. The content itself isn´t that bad. As with all content it´s 200%about practice. The way the loot works is the problem.
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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  • me_ming
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    you just went back right after. lol. You said you just completed it and got a sword, then you said you have a bow and a staff. :p

    hehe
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  • Morvane
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    Went in for the first time since the Morrowind patch and just completed it.

    Worst experience I've had by far in the last month or so. I was playing very poorly having been away from that god-forsaken place for a while, so that wasn't adding any sprinkles of joy.

    And what did I get?

    A Maelstrom Powered Sword, literally the worst loot possible. I know, I know, it's RNG, but it still feels like crap that I had put myself through that kind of frustration and anger over a video game, only to be rewarded with a kick in the buttocks.

    Just had to vent a little, not going back into that place again, screw the weapons it's not worth the anger and frustration. Which then leads to a rather serious question:

    Why on earth would you lock some of the best gear in the game behind pure solo content in an MMO? Shouldn't the best gear (in this case I'm talking about the bow and destro staves) be rewarded to those who complete the hardest group content?

    Just a thought.

    you will return.
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  • MakoFore
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    that s why i dont play it to grind anymore. i just take it in small stages- do 3 stages then a break, do a dungeon, then another 3, have something to eat- then finish it off. if i feel like I'm just doing it in pieces- it seems less frustrating for me for some reason. thats the only way i can get thru it. been running it now for 14 months- and not a single sharp 2hander. its now just almost an exercise in curioisity- seeing what is at the bottom of this endless pit- only to find my own soul looking at me... with a powered dagger.
  • Saturn
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    Thank god I already have a few maelstrom bows, since that's about the only thing worth getting from the place anymore, but yeah since Morrowind the place has just become annoying as hell, as if it wasn't bad enough already. Hopefully next time we get an arena with best-in-slot gear behind it, it won't be a solo one...
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    Loot system is the only and only problem vMA has. 90% time you basicaly lose 40 minutes for the nothingest nothing of nothingness.
  • Father_X_Zombie
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    Cleared it once literally cannot clear it again things that didnt kill me last time devouring me this time. .. stuck on final round i some how won last time ignoring half the mechanics break a crustal knocked off break another fall off now i shatter all 3 in one go and boss rages so hard he just decimates me in one go... 80 tries in a row i bought a new controller as my old one is legit ripped in half

    Yea same, Ive lost 2 controllers and a headset to vma
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  • humpalicous
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    me_ming wrote: »
    you just went back right after. lol. You said you just completed it and got a sword, then you said you have a bow and a staff. :p

    hehe

    Haha, I'll tell you this, if I didn't have the bow and staff (in defending and powered) I would be crying in a corner. I guess I was a slave to the race for traits, plus I still want a dagger in case that becomes viable again.

    But as you all said, I will probably be back, hopefully I can keep my word and my dignity and not return but my captors are relentless. They are ruthless and convincing and I am a slave to the RNG, a sad life indeed :)
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    It's about mindset.

    It's great solo content that teaches you about your build and gets easier as you learn the mechanics, and pushes you to improve.

    If you try to grind it, or farm it then yes like all content in this game it ruins it. Forget the weopons, they aren't that epic now anyway, just play it to get better and let's the weopons come as they wil

    Even those of us that have it on easy mode because we have mastered the content and our builds don't think 300 runs without the weapon we want is even remotely interesting.
  • lauykanson
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    Its all RNG i only ran vma 5 times all in all and got a precise inferno, sharpen inferno and sharpen lightning.....
  • Blacksmoke
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    lauykanson wrote: »
    Its all RNG i only ran vma 5 times all in all and got a precise inferno, sharpen inferno and sharpen lightning.....

    I call bs. Game is rigged. Meanwhile I've done 400+ clears, and in the final chest nor weekly rewards have never even seen a precise or sharpened inferno. Let alone sharpened lightning. Yet, I have multiples of every thing else. Literally everything else.
  • Warbow7
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    I gave up when I got 4 bows in a row. Lol

    I pretty much gave up last week as well when i got my 5th bow in a row and a grand total of 6 in my last 9 runs, not even a single one sharpened. The other 3 drops were: powered mace, defending/powered daggers and and a defending resto. I have yet to see a single Destro staff drop from +/-50 runs. :/
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  • Banana
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    Welcome. I threw in the towel months ago
  • josiahva
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    I disagree, a powered sword would come in VERY handy on a magicka tank...extra defense+ extra healing? Yes please. Imagine a Warden tank with all points in magicka running plague doctor/green pact with Alteration Mastery/Seducer with maelstrom powered sword and one piece Pirate Skeleton with all enchants being stamina. What you would end up with is a tank at armor cap, decent health(30kish, maybe a touch more) decent magicka(26kish) and decent stamina(20kish) fully capable of good off heals using warden class heals, use treasure hunter/mother's sorrow instead of seducer/mastery for stronger heals if you dont need the extra regen. So yeah...just because you may not be interested in using a particular weapon with a particular trait doesnt mean it wouldnt be a perfect fit for some build somewhere. Although to be honest, in the above build, 2 piece bloodspawn would be better that 1 piece pirate skeleton/vma sword simply because of the warden healing ulti spam it would help with.
  • UrbanMonk
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    I did after MW 2nd time and got Precise Lightening for 2nd time.

    Already had a sharp and precise lightening. Was hoping for a sharp/ precise bow but whatever...
    Edited by UrbanMonk on July 24, 2017 6:07PM
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  • seedubsrun
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    It's about mindset.

    It's great solo content that teaches you about your build and gets easier as you learn the mechanics, and pushes you to improve.

    If you try to grind it, or farm it then yes like all content in this game it ruins it. Forget the weopons, they aren't that epic now anyway, just play it to get better and let's the weopons come as they wil

    I have every vMA weapon for a stam character in the best traits...I only have magicka characters.
    I have 3 sharpened inferno staves...Don't even use em. Need lightning.

    It's like Zos knows what I'm looking for and intentionally don't give it up. Either way, I decided maybe 10 runs ago that I would use vMA to test and get good with new builds and not care about the rewards. I also just play it to work on my leader board score. That's helped restore a bit of fun to it for me and I definitely notice myself getting better. Figured if I get good enough to always make the boards each week then I'm achieving a personal goal as well as upping my chances of getting what I want.
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