Support Sets

Skander

This is intended for PvP:
I was wondering. Could the devs implement more support sets that aren't only dropped in light armour?
Yes, i know, support characters for now are only magicka, but implementing craftable sets could be solid.
For now we are stuck with: Stendarr (you probably never knew about it), Sanctuary (probably neither this), wizard riposte, fasalla. 3 of those are dropped in light armour.


Would you like to see more?

DRXHarbinger

Powerful assault.

Skander

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Powerful assault.

Is underwhelming

lolo_01b16_ESO

There are already some medium armour support sets, e.g. alkosh, hircine, morag tong, sunderflame, ...
But I wouldn't mind having more, as long as they are useful.

eso_nya

I would like to see the existing support sets, which r usually used by tanks dropping in heavy armor (additionally). (e.g. alkosh, pa, sunderflame, hircine, morag, lamia, a heavy set giving major slayer)

DRXHarbinger

Skander wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Powerful assault.

Is underwhelming

Is really not, I tank VDSA regularly using this and SPC on a Templar, heal anyone and boom whole team is fully buffed with both for uber fast runs.

Most sets have their uses, just need to find them.

idk

Fassalla's Guile for PvP. Ebon. Powerful Assault, Alkosh, War Machine.

I fully expect I missed some. Left our Hircine since it's not really used.

Qbiken

In PvP: Transmutation.

Skander

Every set previously linked isn't much of a deal. Sadly

idk

Skander wrote: »

Every set previously linked isn't much of a deal. Sadly

They're all good sets and used.

Considering your have failed to even suggest what your interested in you don't have any room to suggest the sets mentioned are not good.

Heck, you've even failed to give an idea of the purpose of the set your looking for. Really lame OP.

Skander

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Every set previously linked isn't much of a deal. Sadly

They're all good sets and used.

Considering your have failed to even suggest what your interested in you don't have any room to suggest the sets mentioned are not good.

Heck, you've even failed to give an idea of the purpose of the set your looking for. Really lame OP.

Those sets: Powerful Assault, Alkosh, War Machine. Will let you die. I'm looking for a support set, not a usless one. You can't help anyone while you are dead.

And this topic was for PvP. I'll fix that

eso_nya

Skander wrote: »

And this topic was for PvP. I'll fix that

Oh. pvp. in that case i'd like to take back whatever i said. i dont have any clue whats good in pvp.

idk

So in support it seems you specifically mean as a suport healer (really would make sense to clarify).

Almost every set comes in jewelry and weapons. Equipping an staff means that 4 of the 5 pieces can be in those slots leaving only one light armor piece to be used which is good for max stats from undaunted passives and lets one easy equip any set and still be able to equip another set in HA.

Skander

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

So in support it seems you specifically mean as a suport healer (really would make sense to clarify).

Almost every set comes in jewelry and weapons. Equipping an staff means that 4 of the 5 pieces can be in those slots leaving only one light armor piece to be used which is good for max stats from undaunted passives and lets one easy equip any set and still be able to equip another set in HA.

That is what i'm speaking off. Even if you are no healer (you can run Wizard riposte on a Magika dk and being a support, since it debuff enemies, or even fasalla) You are limited to jewlery and weapons. And the fact that some sets (like fasalla) are useless outside a 4 man group, bugs me.

I mean. We could also need some magicka/stamina support sets that come in heavy armor

The game is for now related of: magicka (light), stamina (medium), health (the most usless stackable characteristic in pvp outside 25k HP max: heavy)
Those are bounds for me that i wish are destroyed maybe with crafted support sets

idk

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

So in support it seems you specifically mean as a suport healer (really would make sense to clarify).

Almost every set comes in jewelry and weapons. Equipping an staff means that 4 of the 5 pieces can be in those slots leaving only one light armor piece to be used which is good for max stats from undaunted passives and lets one easy equip any set and still be able to equip another set in HA.

That is what i'm speaking off. Even if you are no healer (you can run Wizard riposte on a Magika dk and being a support, since it debuff enemies, or even fasalla) You are limited to jewlery and weapons. And the fact that some sets (like fasalla) are useless outside a 4 man group, bugs me.

I mean. We could also need some magicka/stamina support sets that come in heavy armor

The game is for now related of: magicka (light), stamina (medium), health (the most usless stackable characteristic in pvp outside 25k HP max: heavy)
Those are bounds for me that i wish are destroyed maybe with crafted support sets

This is a great start in outlining the discussion you are interested in. Great.

Now, with the suport role as you outlined here iw also rather broad. Increasing the damage they do is suport and helps them kill other players faster which is usually a good thing in PvP.

Further, being it is clear we are talking about all roles, any set that reduces damage from the enemies or reduces the healing enemies receive is beneficial and helps keep allies alive.

i wead fasallas guile as a stamina dps and iirc have 25k health (depending on bonuses). Works well. It works well.

Now if your looking for something glass cannon and you continue with the overly generalization of what your looking for then the suggest you get some clarity of thought for your thread.

Skander

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

So in support it seems you specifically mean as a suport healer (really would make sense to clarify).

Almost every set comes in jewelry and weapons. Equipping an staff means that 4 of the 5 pieces can be in those slots leaving only one light armor piece to be used which is good for max stats from undaunted passives and lets one easy equip any set and still be able to equip another set in HA.

That is what i'm speaking off. Even if you are no healer (you can run Wizard riposte on a Magika dk and being a support, since it debuff enemies, or even fasalla) You are limited to jewlery and weapons. And the fact that some sets (like fasalla) are useless outside a 4 man group, bugs me.

I mean. We could also need some magicka/stamina support sets that come in heavy armor

The game is for now related of: magicka (light), stamina (medium), health (the most usless stackable characteristic in pvp outside 25k HP max: heavy)
Those are bounds for me that i wish are destroyed maybe with crafted support sets

This is a great start in outlining the discussion you are interested in. Great.

Now, with the suport role as you outlined here iw also rather broad. Increasing the damage they do is suport and helps them kill other players faster which is usually a good thing in PvP.

Further, being it is clear we are talking about all roles, any set that reduces damage from the enemies or reduces the healing enemies receive is beneficial and helps keep allies alive.

i wead fasallas guile as a stamina dps and iirc have 25k health (depending on bonuses). Works well. It works well.

Now if your looking for something glass cannon and you continue with the overly generalization of what your looking for then the suggest you get some clarity of thought for your thread.

I toght that my post was pretty clear. Was asking for some more USEFUL support sets in pvp. Sets that even if you are alone, are not useless (see Stendarr for an instance. It's every 30 secs). With fasalla guile alone, you ain't gonna kill anyone, that's the reason it's not good to run it. If you kill someone, they are probably not a threat in cyrodill overall.
Also. There are no sets a part from SpellPowerCure (also light armor) that buff spell damage and weapon damage consistently.

idk

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

So in support it seems you specifically mean as a suport healer (really would make sense to clarify).

Almost every set comes in jewelry and weapons. Equipping an staff means that 4 of the 5 pieces can be in those slots leaving only one light armor piece to be used which is good for max stats from undaunted passives and lets one easy equip any set and still be able to equip another set in HA.

That is what i'm speaking off. Even if you are no healer (you can run Wizard riposte on a Magika dk and being a support, since it debuff enemies, or even fasalla) You are limited to jewlery and weapons. And the fact that some sets (like fasalla) are useless outside a 4 man group, bugs me.

I mean. We could also need some magicka/stamina support sets that come in heavy armor

The game is for now related of: magicka (light), stamina (medium), health (the most usless stackable characteristic in pvp outside 25k HP max: heavy)
Those are bounds for me that i wish are destroyed maybe with crafted support sets

This is a great start in outlining the discussion you are interested in. Great.

Now, with the suport role as you outlined here iw also rather broad. Increasing the damage they do is suport and helps them kill other players faster which is usually a good thing in PvP.

Further, being it is clear we are talking about all roles, any set that reduces damage from the enemies or reduces the healing enemies receive is beneficial and helps keep allies alive.

i wead fasallas guile as a stamina dps and iirc have 25k health (depending on bonuses). Works well. It works well.

Now if your looking for something glass cannon and you continue with the overly generalization of what your looking for then the suggest you get some clarity of thought for your thread.

I toght that my post was pretty clear. Was asking for some more USEFUL support sets in pvp. Sets that even if you are alone, are not useless (see Stendarr for an instance. It's every 30 secs). With fasalla guile alone, you ain't gonna kill anyone, that's the reason it's not good to run it. If you kill someone, they are probably not a threat in cyrodill overall.
Also. There are no sets a part from SpellPowerCure (also light armor) that buff spell damage and weapon damage consistently.

I kill peeps solo wearing fasallas. Heck, works great solo. I run S&B one bar and 2H on the other. I've rebuffed their self healing pretty seriously between the set and bash on S&B. Then I finish them off with 2H.

Back to powerful assault. It buffs weapon damage and spell damage reliably.

As I pointed out earlier, You can run any set in jewelry and weapon. And the worst that's one armor piece of light. That single light armor buffs your max health magicka and stam 2%.

idk

Btw, you contradict yourself. Earlier you stated that none of the sets names would keep your group alive while your most recent post you use SPC as an example that there is nothing like that in medium or heavy armor even though it buffs spell and weapon damage similar to PA. Actually PA is more reliable. 100% chance and for a longer time frame.

Skander

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Btw, you contradict yourself. Earlier you stated that none of the sets names would keep your group alive while your most recent post you use SPC as an example that there is nothing like that in medium or heavy armor even though it buffs spell and weapon damage similar to PA. Actually PA is more reliable. 100% chance and for a longer time frame.

Powerful assoult is a nice set if you want to die. The damage is not enough for facing an opponent. It's medium, thus you must use armor, thus you are not tanky enough to be a support characters, becouse support characters in light armor never see the light of the day. A dead support is a bad support.

Anyway. I didn't contradict myself. When i speak for "alive" i mean the user, the supporter, not the group. The group is kept alive by heals ecc ecc. The support sets let your life be esier, but they aren't the main carry

qsnoopyjr

In PvP...
Two roles.

You DPS or you heal

Support is just something newbies will say as an excuse to lack of DPS and costs to much to go healer.

When you get to high end PvP, third role comes available, tank.
Sending out the guy to tank 30 people and then the DPS comes around the corner to trample over all those 30 stacked players.

Support???
Thats just whining, thats just newbies making up a new role to make themselves not look so bad.

starkerealm

eso_nya wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

And this topic was for PvP. I'll fix that

Oh. pvp. in that case i'd like to take back whatever i said. i dont have any clue whats good in pvp.

Which is probably why I was looking at this going, "what is he smoking?" Also why SPC didn't get a nod, probably.

apostate9

Skander wrote: »

This is intended for PvP:
I was wondering. Could the devs implement more support sets that aren't only dropped in light armour?
Yes, i know, support characters for now are only magicka, but implementing craftable sets could be solid.
For now we are stuck with: Stendarr (you probably never knew about it), Sanctuary (probably neither this), wizard riposte, fasalla. 3 of those are dropped in light armour.


Would you like to see more?

* Powerful Assault (Medium)
* Fasalla is in fact, Heavy
* Durok's Bane
* Beckoning Steel

starkerealm

Skander wrote: »

Also. There are no sets a part from SpellPowerCure (also light armor) that buff spell damage and weapon damage consistently.

Kena...

*Scampers off*

idk

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Btw, you contradict yourself. Earlier you stated that none of the sets names would keep your group alive while your most recent post you use SPC as an example that there is nothing like that in medium or heavy armor even though it buffs spell and weapon damage similar to PA. Actually PA is more reliable. 100% chance and for a longer time frame.

Powerful assoult is a nice set if you want to die. The damage is not enough for facing an opponent. It's medium, thus you must use armor, thus you are not tanky enough to be a support characters, becouse support characters in light armor never see the light of the day. A dead support is a bad support.

Anyway. I didn't contradict myself. When i speak for "alive" i mean the user, the supporter, not the group. The group is kept alive by heals ecc ecc. The support sets let your life be esier, but they aren't the main carry

It's humorous how you nitpic everything. We have suggested multiple sets that do not come on light and are suport sets.

You have also ignored the best suggestion of jewelry and weapon for the light armor set you like which means only one piece light armor which would also increase all your max stats 2%.

In the end you either don't know what you want or will not be happy with anything.

Skander

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

In PvP...
Two roles.

You DPS or you heal

Support is just something newbies will say as an excuse to lack of DPS and costs to much to go healer.

When you get to high end PvP, third role comes available, tank.
Sending out the guy to tank 30 people and then the DPS comes around the corner to trample over all those 30 stacked players.

Support???
Thats just whining, thats just newbies making up a new role to make themselves not look so bad.

If you say i'm a Newbe you probably don't play in Eu

starkerealm wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Also. There are no sets a part from SpellPowerCure (also light armor) that buff spell damage and weapon damage consistently.

Kena...

*Scampers off*

Kena is good if you want to die

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Btw, you contradict yourself. Earlier you stated that none of the sets names would keep your group alive while your most recent post you use SPC as an example that there is nothing like that in medium or heavy armor even though it buffs spell and weapon damage similar to PA. Actually PA is more reliable. 100% chance and for a longer time frame.

Powerful assoult is a nice set if you want to die. The damage is not enough for facing an opponent. It's medium, thus you must use armor, thus you are not tanky enough to be a support characters, becouse support characters in light armor never see the light of the day. A dead support is a bad support.

Anyway. I didn't contradict myself. When i speak for "alive" i mean the user, the supporter, not the group. The group is kept alive by heals ecc ecc. The support sets let your life be esier, but they aren't the main carry

It's humorous how you nitpic everything. We have suggested multiple sets that do not come on light and are suport sets.

You have also ignored the best suggestion of jewelry and weapon for the light armor set you like which means only one piece light armor which would also increase all your max stats 2%.

In the end you either don't know what you want or will not be happy with anything.

I see those sets, and I spoke about those that are already in heavy armor. Most of those are: useless, if you don't want to fight in a gazzilion players group. With a Billion in a group (10) you could even run naked with dawnbreaker and have results. Since it's a zerg.
Anyway, i'm speaking about diversity, about support sets that should be craftable, that should come in heavy AND light, becouse if i want to use some other jewlery, i can't right now.