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Mag DK Update 15 Theorycrafting

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It looks like 2 new sets are being added that could work really well with Mag DK. Update 15 could introduce some neat builds to DKs.
Flame Blossom (Light)
(2) Max Magicka
(3) Spell Damage
(4) Spell Penetration
(5) When you deal damage, you have a 10% chance to summon a line of flame that moves forward, dealing 8,000 Flame Damage to any enemy in its path. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Domihaus (Monster)
(1) Max Stamina
(1) Max Magicka
(2) When you deal damage, you have a 15% chance to create either a ring of fire or a ring of molten earth around you for 10 seconds, which deals 1,000 Flame Damage or 1,000 Physical Damage every 1 second. Standing within the ring grants you 200 Spell Damage or 200 Weapon Damage. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.

Feel free to discuss DK builds and theorycrafting here, either for PvE or PvP.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
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    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2017 4:57PM
  • Stamden
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    How is whether it's spell damage/flame or weapon/damage determined? I assumed it was just based off your highest stat.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    It procs off your highest stat. Also lol illambris is *** awful for magdk. Please L2DK. Grothdarr is currently number 1 followed by skoria for them. OP I'm interested to try out Silks + Domihaus + 4pc aether. Crit is king going forward. Silks is BiS for magdk period. Anyone that says bsw still doesn't even own SoTH so ignore.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Stamden wrote: »
    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    How is whether it's spell damage/flame or weapon/damage determined? I assumed it was just based off your highest stat.

    If it procs by max stats then its good
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2017 5:23PM
  • Lord_Eomer
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    It procs off your highest stat. Also lol illambris is *** awful for magdk. Please L2DK. Grothdarr is currently number 1 followed by skoria for them. OP I'm interested to try out Silks + Domihaus + 4pc aether. Crit is king going forward. Silks is BiS for magdk period. Anyone that says bsw still doesn't even own SoTH so ignore.

    Its not mich of diffence under current patch and i mentioned i.e. and just named ilambria does not mean i said no to Grothdarr

    I was on mobile and had not remeber Grothdarr spelling, so kindly be less toxic..
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2017 5:28PM
  • death_pudding
    I am definitely interested in trying domihaus on my mag dk. Also, due to the buff to the burning status effect, I heard that BSW could come ahead of SotS. Has anyone tested this on PTS yet?
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  • Masel
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    It procs off your highest stat. Also lol illambris is *** awful for magdk. Please L2DK. Grothdarr is currently number 1 followed by skoria for them. OP I'm interested to try out Silks + Domihaus + 4pc aether. Crit is king going forward. Silks is BiS for magdk period. Anyone that says bsw still doesn't even own SoTH so ignore.

    How's Illambris bad for a mag DK? It has amazing synergy on it, even better than a magsorc.

    Domihaus is really really good if you can stay in the range. It's AoE is nearly as big as the templars ritual, so very big (10-11m~)

    The flame blossom set is good in AoE and against bosses with a big hitbox. It can tick multiple times against enemies that have a big hitbox and therefore does multiplicative dps on them. Still needs to be tested where it can be good though.
    Edited by Masel on July 15, 2017 9:18PM
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  • Savos_Saren
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    How does it tick multiple times? It's not a DoT, right? I thought Flame Blossom was a burst of flames that hits in a path?
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  • Masel
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    jaburns wrote: »
    How does it tick multiple times? It's not a DoT, right? I thought Flame Blossom was a burst of flames that hits in a path?

    It is a path that hits enemies once per second when standing in it. So if you'd have an enemy moving backwards with it you could hit him multiple times. Also, enemies with a big hitbox also get hit multiple times as the path "moves through them".
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  • Gan Xing
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    anybody have screenshots of Domihaus?
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  • IxskullzxI
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    I'm curious to see how Domihaus will be compared to skoria for pvp. I could see flame blossI'm being pretty solid. Blossom, skoria proc, leap would dish out some hurt.
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    I'd imagine that you'll get two different mDK builds from these. You'll get a "proc build" like a nightblade or a "house build" like a templar tank.

    The "proc build" would be something like Fire Blossom, Valkyn, and maybe BSW. This would work well since mDKs don't have an execute.

    The "house build" would be Elf Bane, Silks, and Domihaus. This would be a lock 'em down and burn 'em alive tanky build.

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  • DKsUnite
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    jaburns wrote: »
    The "house build" would be Elf Bane, Silks, and Domihaus. This would be a lock 'em down and burn 'em alive tanky build.
    Savvy?

    Why in god's name would anyone run elf bane? o.O
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Raw spell damage on the 1-4 piece that can be buffed (unlike rattlecage) and the fact that you can tag multiple enemies with burning embers (which equals more damage and a higher heal). Longer ticks on Burning Talons and Eruption- plus the burning status effect now lasts 4 seconds.
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  • Stamden
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    jaburns wrote: »
    The "proc build" would be something like Fire Blossom, Valkyn, and maybe BSW. This would work well since mDKs don't have an execute.

    Ah, so our most viable PvP setup is still going to be some unfun RNG-fest that relies on setting up like 4 different procs to kill anyone. That's unfortunate, ah well.
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    DKsUnite wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    The "house build" would be Elf Bane, Silks, and Domihaus. This would be a lock 'em down and burn 'em alive tanky build.
    Savvy?

    Why in god's name would anyone run elf bane? o.O

    It's useful for a destro monkey in a zerg; 2 extra ticks.

    But zergs move and Domihaus doesn't.
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    DKsUnite wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    The "house build" would be Elf Bane, Silks, and Domihaus. This would be a lock 'em down and burn 'em alive tanky build.
    Savvy?

    Why in god's name would anyone run elf bane? o.O

    It's useful for a destro monkey in a zerg; 2 extra ticks.

    But zergs move and Domihaus doesn't.

    Yep. I'd still imagine with the range of Dominhaus- it would be quite beneficial for capturing keep flags, though. As you said- a DK tank with the Destro Ult and Domihaus would probably melt groups trying to flip a flag. Especially if they're pinned with talons.
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  • ak_pvp
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    How 2nd set is good for MDK, loss of dps comparing other moster sets. I.e
    Ilambris

    Its good for stam/magicka hyrbid builds!

    It procs off your highest stat. Also lol illambris is *** awful for magdk. Please L2DK. Grothdarr is currently number 1 followed by skoria for them. OP I'm interested to try out Silks + Domihaus + 4pc aether. Crit is king going forward. Silks is BiS for magdk period. Anyone that says bsw still doesn't even own SoTH so ignore.

    Don't be cocky when you have no idea what you are talking about, many DKs run back bar lightning for extra flame lashes/heavy attacks, that extra shock procs illambris decently enough to make it much stronger than grothdarr/skoria on a stationary target.

    If someone is ruining one of those slightly lightning based builds. then BSW is better, otherwise Sots, also BSW has the crit that will be buffed next patch, so it might be even, even without a lightning build.
    Edited by ak_pvp on July 16, 2017 11:56PM
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  • IxskullzxI
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    You guys going light or heavy armor for update 15? What weapon traits for 1h/s do you plan on running?
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    Looks like Domihaus gets out-parsed by even Grothdarr. What a disappointment.
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  • NBrookus
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    IxskullzxI wrote: »
    You guys going light or heavy armor for update 15? What weapon traits for 1h/s do you plan on running?

    Barring new information or major meta shifts, I will probably be staying in light.
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    I saw a vid here showing if you use wings to reflect a bow or staff light attack from a player using an oblivion enchant, you don't take the oblivion damage. With how many people on the pts forum say they plan on going infused oblivion bow/staff back bar, possible wings comeback?
    Edited by IxskullzxI on July 27, 2017 1:35AM
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  • Masel
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    IxskullzxI wrote: »
    I saw a vid here showing if you use wings to reflect a bow or staff light attack from a player using an oblivion enchant, you don't take the oblivion damage. With how many people on the pts forum say they plan on going infused oblivion bow/staff back bar, possible wings comeback?

    Wait for next week to happen. I don't see this oblivion thing staying as it is.
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