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Veteran Maelstrom Arena (It finally dropped)

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oMrRust
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after dozens of runs of vMA and it being my second run since Morrowind release.. I got
Maelstrom Inferno Staff (Sharpened)
but to bad this upcoming patch it is getting nerfed from 5160 to 2750.
and I want to believe it'll still be BiS than any other trait.
  • Balsagna
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    It is still best in slot, just not by as much.

    You should be happier people do hundreds of runs for that.
  • oMrRust
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    Balsagna wrote: »
    It is still best in slot, just not by as much.

    You should be happier people do hundreds of runs for that.

    I am happy it dropped and I for sure am gonna try to get a build together that i can use it on so I can run vMoL finally or the new HoF cause I'd love to get those skins
  • Mashille
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    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.
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  • Universe
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    Precise>Sharpened in update 15.
    But gz :)
    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :)
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Congrats OP. 400+ runs, and I've never had a sharpened or precise inferno staff drop for me. Nor have I ever received 1 in the weekly. And speaking of the weekly, 3 weeks ago I finally received my first precise lighting staff. Still missing a sharpened 1. #VMARNG
  • Masel
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    On magicka spinner set+apprentice+infused weapons, on vMA staff probably precise.

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/introduction-to-pve-damage-calculation-homestead/

    See this thread for it. The link says homestead but it's updated for HotR.
    Edited by Masel on July 15, 2017 11:47AM
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Around 300+ runs and now not running anymore VMA..

    Got like 4 precise, 3 nirn and 2 sharpen inferno but 1 precise lighting, 3 nirn and 0 sharpen lighting.

    I had inferno long ago but not useful for me as i do mostly aoe damage and need sharpen lighting..

    New patch gave me hope to use precise lighting so i stopped grind!
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    Masel92 wrote: »
    On magicka spinner set+apprentice+infused weapons, on vMA staff probably precise.

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/introduction-to-pve-damage-calculation-homestead/

    See this thread for it. The link says homestead but it's updated for HotR.

    May BIS for MNB or magplar but i prefer mag sorc stil with old school necro + ia/md + vma + 2x ilambris (may change this due to nerf)
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2017 12:00PM
  • oMrRust
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    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    I haven't even gotten precise . well. on maelstrom mace i got it as precise.
    but precise may become a BiS for next patch. never know.
    I saved a nirnhoned inferno staff just incase as well as infused vma bow even though i have a sharpened bow.but hearing infused vma bow may become bis.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Lord wrote: »
    Precise>Sharpened in update 15.
    But gz :)
    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :)

    Depends on your CP distribution. For example, on my magDK, Sharpened + Thief > Precise + Lover and is the best combination for me. The damage provided by extra critical I gain from thief is surpassing damage I would gain if I had not to put CPs in Spell Erosion.
    Sorcerer for example, is another story because it has not access to Minor Force so Precise + Lover will most likely be better (but I am not sure if Infused wouldn't be even better than Precise in this case, because Sorc has low Crit damage).

    You still want to fully penetrate the bosses, just must find most efficient way to do so.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on July 15, 2017 2:38PM
  • Universe
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    Olupajmibanan wrote: »
    Lord wrote: »
    Precise>Sharpened in update 15.
    But gz :)
    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :)

    Depends on your CP distribution. For example, on my magDK, Sharpened + Thief > Precise + Lover and is the best combination for me. The damage provided by extra critical I gain from thief is surpassing damage I would gain if I had not to put CPs in Spell Erosion.
    Sorcerer for example, is another story because it has not access to Minor Force so Precise + Lover will most likely be better (but I am not sure if Infused wouldn't be even better than Precise in this case, because Sorc has low Crit damage).

    You still want to fully penetrate the bosses, just must find most efficient way to do so.

    Overall, cp builds & gear sets, Precise will be better in most cases from what I have experienced on PTS.
    It may be too early to announce the update 15's best offence weapon trait but as of now, I believe it will be precise for me.
    Edited by Universe on July 15, 2017 2:48PM
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  • Nemesis7884
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    after dozens of runs of vMA and it being my second run since Morrowind release.. I got
    Maelstrom Inferno Staff (Sharpened)
    but to bad this upcoming patch it is getting nerfed from 5160 to 2750.
    and I want to believe it'll still be BiS than any other trait.

    i guess thats what they mean when they are talking of "cruel irony"
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Lord wrote: »
    Precise>Sharpened in update 15.
    But gz :)
    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :)
    Lord wrote: »
    Olupajmibanan wrote: »
    Lord wrote: »
    Precise>Sharpened in update 15.
    But gz :)
    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :)

    Depends on your CP distribution. For example, on my magDK, Sharpened + Thief > Precise + Lover and is the best combination for me. The damage provided by extra critical I gain from thief is surpassing damage I would gain if I had not to put CPs in Spell Erosion.
    Sorcerer for example, is another story because it has not access to Minor Force so Precise + Lover will most likely be better (but I am not sure if Infused wouldn't be even better than Precise in this case, because Sorc has low Crit damage).

    You still want to fully penetrate the bosses, just must find most efficient way to do so.

    Overall, cp builds & gear sets, Precise will be better in most cases from what I have experienced on PTS.
    It may be too early to announce the update 15's best offence weapon trait but as of now, I believe it will be precise for me.

    I think that all DW builds including magicka templar will go with Infused + Precise front bar and Precise back bar. With the Lover mundus of course.

    I am still evaluating magicka sorc, I will surely go with the Lover mundus and Precise staff back bar. But from early calculation Infused front bar seems to be better than Precise, must test that.

    Magicka DK is typically front baring MSA fire staff so infused is not an option. But paper results say that Sharpened + Thief is better in this case by 0,4% compared to Precise + Lover. Thief gives more critical than Precise (thanks to divines trait) and critical is getting better on higher crit damage. MagDK is actively using rearming trap so its crit damage is around 75%.

    Never played a magblade so don't have a clue about them.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on July 15, 2017 3:46PM
  • dpencil1
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    The variables in testing are much more complex now, which is awesome, and really leads to many different setups producing nearly identical results. Also, the change to Infused and the nerf to Sharpened offer a great opportunity for skill to play a bigger factor in dps. To make the most out of Infused, you need to try to keep the enchant up as close to 100% as possible. That means being on your front bar every 5-6 seconds, and always weaving when you're there. I'm trying to rework my rotarion to have Daedric Prey on my front bar and focus on keeping that up 100% or the time. I used to have it on my back bar and just apply it with the other dots.
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Mashille wrote: »
    Curse you! I'm still stuck here with my precise stuff.

    Precise>sharpened in update 15
    Have fun :) [/quote]

    Good thing I got a precise bow instead of sharpened :)
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    hopefully they buff sharpened to 3250, that would be logical
  • Anne_Firehawk
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    Sharpened will still be BiS for a raidsetup just not as much as it used to be before.
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    Anne_Firehawk wrote: »
    Sharpened will still be BiS for a raidsetup just not as much as it used to be before.

    I fear this isn't exactly true anymore. Almost every tank use Crusher enchantment on infused so you can count with that. But many tanks dropped alkosh lately, so the only extra penetration you can get from your trial group is 2580 physical resistance reduction from NMG set if someome would be so kind to wear it. So your group won't provide that much as we might think.

    Stam setup:
    18200-5280-2108-5000= 5182 penetration you must get elsewhere (3232 with NMG present in group)

    Mag setup:
    18200-5280-2108-4884= 5920 penetration you must get elsewhere

    You can get the missing penetration from Sharpened (2752) along with CPs or from the new Lover mundus (4197 in 7 divines). By choosing sharpened you will need to put a lot of points into penetration CPs and you must count if % damage lost from other CPs will be surpassed with increased damage from non-Lover mundus (most probably thief or shadow).
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on July 15, 2017 6:51PM
  • getemshauna
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    Olupajmibanan wrote: »
    Anne_Firehawk wrote: »
    Sharpened will still be BiS for a raidsetup just not as much as it used to be before.

    I fear this isn't exactly true anymore. Almost every tank use Crusher enchantment on infused so you can count with that. But many tanks dropped alkosh lately, so the only extra penetration you can get from your trial group is 2580 physical resistance reduction from NMG set if someome would be so kind to wear it. So your group won't provide that much as we might think.

    Stam setup:
    18200-5280-2108-5000= 5182 penetration you must get elsewhere (3232 with NMG present in group)

    Mag setup:
    18200-5280-2108-4884= 5920 penetration you must get elsewhere

    You can get the missing penetration from Sharpened (2752) along with CPs or from the new Lover mundus (4197 in 7 divines). By choosing sharpened you will need to put a lot of points into penetration CPs and you must count if % damage lost from other CPs will be surpassed with increased damage from non-Lover mundus (most probably thief or shadow).

    Good calculations, but have in mind there is also base penetration of value 100.
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  • Vapirko
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    Congrats!
  • Remag_Div
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    after dozens of runs of vMA.
    OhAmex wrote: »
    dozens

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  • SoLooney
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    ehh, 50ish runs in, 3 inferno staves sharp and 1 lightning staff sharp. still no sharpened bow. have not gotten any staves in precise either. guess my mag sorc is going sharp next dlc
  • botanist92
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    how do u guys see how many runs uve done so far? estimate?

    been doing 1-3 runs a day from the middle of homestead patch.. tons of bows and axes. not a single lightning staff.. A SINGLE lightning staff.. great..
  • oMrRust
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    botanist92 wrote: »
    how do u guys see how many runs uve done so far? estimate?

    been doing 1-3 runs a day from the middle of homestead patch.. tons of bows and axes. not a single lightning staff.. A SINGLE lightning staff.. great..

    I wish there was a way to see an actual completion count.
    I haven't counted but I only got flawless once.
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