Old Man - Templar Help

SirJake990

I am a lvl 36 Champion, Imperial class Templar. It seems as though I am having a real tough time completing quests since turning champion.

I am 70 so your could be helping your grandpa here, lol. my reflexes are still great. Been playing RPG's since late 80's, Ultima series being my favorite from the era.

I currently wear 5pc heavy and 2 light.
I would like to play Destruction and either Destruction, Restoration or shield and sword.
I like playing the magic side. A Vampire for the magic buff.
Firepower/Survivability are not cutting it.


So if you could give me a skills board to match up with the primary and secondary weapons. And deployment of my 38 Champion points, I would be most appreciative. I would even donate a sum to your favorite charity if your input works for me.

I can change over to light armor over time, but might take a bit.

THANKS

Bonzodog01

You need to be running 5 light, 1 Heavy, 1 medium. Destro lightning staff. Make sure that you have all armor skill point passives filled out, except for the last two passives in Medium and Heavy as they only apply for 5 pieces or more.

Put all 64 stat points in Magicka.

At Level 50, CP160
5 Julianos (crafted set), 4 Twilights Embrace (crafted Set), 3 Transmutation Jewellery (available in all good guild stores). Change the glyphs on the jewellry to Spell Damage.

Skills are: Puncturing Sweeps (this heals as you use it.), reflective light (apply to start the attack. It will stack upto 3 times.), Blazing Spear, Inner Light (not used, but kept on bar for the passive effect), Ritual of Retribution (AOE Heal and dot effect on any mobs in its radius). Ultimate would be the Destro staff ultimate.

You can copy this over to the back bar pretty much if you run a destro on back, but a resto on back would have a slightly different set of skills.

All gear should be purple, with max magicka enchants on all armor.

Get someone to craft some poisons for you, but its best you learn alchemy and provisioning.

ALWAYS run food - either a max magicka/health blue food OR "Witchmothers Potent Brew" drink.

This by the way is a PvE set-up. for PvP, you will need to change some skills around, and add in Radiant destruction in place of Reflective Light.

This is pretty basic, but in PvE questing, public dungeons, world bosses etc, it cannot really fail.

Warbow7

Basically all overland monsters are at cp160. When you start playing (lvl 1-50) you actually get a scaled up to be able to compete. All your resources, weapons/spell damaged gets a buff, the closer you get to lvl 50 the less effective these buffs become. Once you reach champion points you lose all these buffs and need to get to cp160 to be on the "same" lvl as all monsters. So it's normal to feel a bit weak once you reach champion points.

If you're on PC EU, i can craft you some gear and buff food that can help you out. Basically like @Bonzodog01 said 5 pieces Julianos will work nice for some extra damage, can also run Seducers if you are struggling with your resource management and maybe a 3 piece jewelry set like Willpower.

You can also look at @Alcast 's Magicka Templar build, he has a nice website showing all kinds of armour sets you can use and what skills will work best and how to allocate your champion points. Once you have the basics and feel more comfortable with your class, you can always add some of your own creativity in there to suit your playing style.

SirJake990

Thanks to both of you. I will start implementing. I am on US server, to craft Julianos I have to be a certain level armour or clothing?

Thanks again

Mcgelie1

You need 6 traits researched to craft a piece of Julianos. I play Xbox NA, if you are on that server I can craft for you. I don't know if I have the mats for that level but if you have em I can craft it for you

SirJake990

Thanks Mcgelie, can PC and Xbox interact? I will work on upping my skills for materials retrieval, But your offer help me clarify a direction. Was thinking about sword/shield for my backup, but that will consume more points. So by going Destructive/Destructive I can save some skill points, Thanks

Warbow7

Unfortunately xbox and pc can't interact. In order to craft gear for your level cp38, i am assuming this will be a bit higher now, you need to have your clothing, blacksmithing, woodworking and enchanting leveled up to rank 7, and in order to craft certain armour sets like Julianos you need to research 6 traits in each and every armour/weapon piece that you want to craft. This is actually quite time consuming, can take up to 2 months to get most items researched to 6 traits. My best advice will be to rather ask a master crafter to craft you some gear. It will cost a bit of gold, but most crafters will do it for free if you provide them with the materials required for crafting your gear. You can use zone chat to ask for a master crafter in the capitol cities Mournhold, Elden Root or Wayrest or if you belong to any guilds then they might be able to help out as well.

It is very possible to use a Sword and shield on one bar and a destruction staff on the other bar, but then i would advice you to look more at hybrid sets like: Shacklebreaker Set, Pelinal's Aptitude Set and Tava's Favor Set, all three of these sets are craftable. The reason i say this is because, sword and shield uses stamina and your damage is based on how much stamina you have and destruction staff uses magicka and your damage is based on how much magicka you have. It might require you to respec your attribute points so you can manage your resources a bit better. Hybrids are very fun to play, just not always viable for end-game content.

eso_nya

The mainstream approach is to beat stuff before mechanics happen.
In that case: go with light armor.
For weapons either use fire and storm stick, or stormstick and 2 swords.
On Fire/Storm: Open up from range on firestick with Shards -> Wall of elements -> reflective light -> bar swap -> heavy attack from stormstick while stuff closes in -> finish off with jabs (the morph that heals u) as soon as mobs r in range.

On swords/stormstaff, its basically the same, u just wait with the barswap until stuff is in range. Swords have the advantage of higher spell dmg and 5% increased dmg for the last passive in the dual wield tree -> more heal, more dmg, the disadvantage is, that with losing the firestick, your wall of elements is weaker.

Place your rune on the ground for more defense and some magicka return.

Check: is your gear enchanted with max magicka? r u using buffood (max hp + max magicka)? is your jewelery enchanted with spelldmg? do u have ~9k spellpenetration (atm: sharp weapon + passive from light armor; soonish: lover mundus and passive from light armor)? do u have inner light on your bar (max magicka + spell crit)? do u use entropy(2nd in mages guild line)?

Feeling weaker between lvl 45 and cp 160 is "normal", u dont benefit from battlespirit as much anymore and slowly go over to relying on yourself. gets better from cp160 onwards.

SirJake990

Thanks warbow and esc_na. Well one thing seems painfully obvious right now. having enough skill points to fight and craft. I have found maps that show the locations of shards but have been through 4-5 areas and did not track those I caught to go back on any I missed. Now that I have 'graduated ' to champion it seems skill points are going to be hard to come by. Or am I missing something.
Thanks

Nestor

SirJake990 wrote: »

Well one thing seems painfully obvious right now. having enough skill points to fight and craft. I have found maps that show the locations of shards but have been through 4-5 areas and did not track those I caught to go back on any I missed. Now that I have 'graduated ' to champion it seems skill points are going to be hard to come by. Or am I missing something.
Thanks

To be a fully invested Crafter takes 122 Skill Points. You don't need all the points to craft, but most of them.
The Min Amount of Skill points for one weapon combat is 130 to 140. (this includes all weapon, armor and class Passives and Morphs) Add 20 points if you want two different weapons. So, again, you could do this with less points, but not much less.

So, yes, it takes a lot of skill points to craft and combat.

Me, what I would do, is not worry about gear all that much until your CP160, as then the gear you get you will keep. In the meantime, just use zone drops for Magic. And your going to spend a lot of time in the zones chasing the skyshards and Lore Books for the Mages guild. But, you will get to or near to CP160 doing this.

Let me give you an example of what I did with my last two leveling characters.

1. I collected all the Skyshards in the zone. I avoided any and all quests other than those that show up in the delves that have skyshards. These quests do not give set items for rewards so no loss there.
2. I would farm the dolmens a few times to get set jewelry that helped my character
3. I would do the Public Dungeons including all the bosses
4. Then I would move to the next zone.

I play on the PC/NA most evenings during the week. Look me up and I can help you out. Same name in game as here.

Warbow7

Hi Jake, luckily you're on PC, which means you have access to addons, just download an application called "minion" once installed it will give you access to thousands of addons that will make eso a lot easier. Two that are quite handy are: Skyshards and Lorebooks, these two will add map markers of every skyshard and lorebook on your map.

You also get skill points from completing the main quest and the main quest lines on each faction. More skillpoints can be earned by completing every 4-man dungeon's quests and you will receive a skillpoint for each alliance war rank you achieve in the PVP zone.

My main character is also my main crafter, he is actually on a surplus of skillpoints (20 to be exact) and i have yet to collect each skyshard in craglorn or cyrodiil.

Nestor

Note the Zone Main Quests (5 stages typically) give Skill Points. But they also give fat amounts of Champion Points. After get tired of chasing the shards, pick a zone, and start doing the main quests for that zone.

eso_nya

If on console: Go to your questjournal -> 4th tab "achievments" -> Character -> skyshards, there u find which ones u r missing per zone, crossreference with e.g. the uesp-map to find out where to go. Every delve and public dungeon has one skyshard. every base zone has 16 skyshards (including delve ones).

Every zone grants skillpoints from quests, usually its the quests listed under cadwells gold and silver (with exeption of malabal tor, theres a ayeleid ruin that grants one aswell: Belarata).
U gain one skillpoint for defeating the groupchallenge boss in every public dungeon and for the onetime story-quest in the grp-dungeons (normal mode is fine for that). If u havent done the public dungeons, go and do the mages guild dailies, this way u do sth u would do anyways, and u get a nice reward ontop of it (same goes for undaunted delve dailies).

Completing mages-/fighters- and mainstory grants skillpoints aswell.
The storylines in hews bane grant 6, goldcoast 8 skillpoints. (they r most easy to do in 5 pc nightsilence (crafted) + 3 pc night terror (dropped in stormhaven, jewelery on dolmens) + camoran throne max stamina + stam regen food. doesnt matter what u r specced for, this just allowes u to move on normal speed in stealth, while u can pee on npcs feet w/o them noticing u.

there is more than enough skillpoints in the game to have the passives for crafting and spec for multi-role (having all the passives for healer, tank and dd loadouts, so all u need to do to swap roles is changing gears).

Wolfenbelle

@SirJake990, although I saw your post earlier today while checking the forums from my cell phone at lunchtime, I've only been able to respond now since getting home from work. I sent you a message. Hopefully you will see it and contact me in game @Wolfenbelle. I'll be happy to be your friend in the game and to help you with your Templar.

I also main a Templar, and while I don't claim to have whiz-bang builds or anything, I've played her continuously since prelaunch in 2014. She is a stamina Templar, Redguard, currently using dual wield and a destro staff. Although I prefer a bow on the back bar, I switched to a destro staff with the Morrowind release. It's not ideal for a stamina Templar, but it works for me, for now. She has 654 CP and counting.

I hope to hear from you.

kijima

Beat me to it.

Happy to help an ESO grandpa, love the fact you are still gaming at 70. On that basis, happy to help you with crafting etc, hit me up @kijima