Rejoice Fellow VMA Grinders!

Ch4mpTW

To all those like me who never could get their hands on a sharpened inferno or lightning staff, next patch is when we get the last laugh (if you got anything Nirnhoned >_>). I sure hope none of you were foolish enough to deconstruct any nirnhoned weapons you got. Me? I'm just waiting on the next update to go live, so I can lol so hard at all of the meta slaves who deconstructed any and all nirnhoned weapons that dropped for them.




I have tons of stamina weapons in nirnhoned too (though I also had all stamina weapons in precise and sharpened as well), so my stamina toons shouldn't be caught lacking either. Thanks for this, ZOS. Oh how I shall have a hardy laugh upon the launch of the next update.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Stam vMA weapons have not been optimal since the last patch. Though hurray for the changes for the staff users.

LadyNalcarya

Have you tested it on pts?
Judging by patch notes, nothing suggests that nirn would be op next patch... Most likely itll still be behind precise and sharpened.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Have you tested it on pts?
Judging by patch notes, nothing suggests that nirn would be op next patch... Most likely itll still be behind precise and sharpened.

Yes but not nearly as much as it has been, likely less then 2%

Buffler

Need to wait for all the nerds to do their number crunching before claiming Nirn is now better.

LadyNalcarya

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Have you tested it on pts?
Judging by patch notes, nothing suggests that nirn would be op next patch... Most likely itll still be behind precise and sharpened.

Yes but not nearly as much as it has been, likely less then 2%

There are some possibilities though, such as sharpened+thief, precise+pen mundus.
I understand that everyone wants to REJOICE that their grind might be ended, but without solid proofs thats just assumptions.

Ch4mpTW

All purples were nirnhoned, and I have multiples of all of them scattered about. My stamina toons are set for PvP or PvE next patch. And my magicka toons as well. Rubbing my hands like Birdman right now. I waited a veeeery long time for this moment.

Morgul667

I feel happy with my nirn lighting staff

Marabornwingrion

The only one inferno staff I ever got was sharpened, so now I will need to grind vMA for precise/nirnhoned? No ty.

Ch4mpTW

Astrid_V wrote: »

The only one inferno staff I ever got was sharpened, so now I will need to grind vMA for precise/nirnhoned? No ty.

For months, those with RNG in their favor shined the brightest for being able to get sharpened Maelstrom Infernos with little to no effort at all. Where as the vast majority (myself included) has never even seen 1 in either the final chest or weekly rewards. This went on for months. And finally, those who don't own a sharpened Maelstrom weapon (in my case inferno or lightning) may smile and gleefully roam about. Mwhahahaha!

Turelus

I really hope they reach a point where more traits are viable and the differences in them are minimal just requiring us to apply the required buffs from different areas.

Either way I am excited that I might be able to use my Nirnhoned Lightning staff at last (though I doubt it because Precise)

KingJ

In my time of doing VMA I have pulled over 15-20 Sharpened VMA Inferno staffs and only Have 1 sharpened Maul I'll trade everyone for a greatsword.Sharpened still be BIS in PVP and I don't care about PVE like I used to.

Vildebill

Looks like precise will be the new sheriff in town. But all traits seems to be more viable with next patch.

Awaiting PTS tests before I say more

Ch4mpTW

Vildebill wrote: »

Looks like precise will be the new sheriff in town. But all traits seems to be more viable with next patch.

Awaiting PTS tests before I say more

That works just as well. I received a precise lightning staff for my weekly reward not too long ago (like 2 weeks ago). As for stamina builds, I have TONS of stamina precise weapons. 2H, bows, and dual-wield. Lol. So I suppose all that I'm missing is a precise inferno staff.

Vildebill

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Vildebill wrote: »

Looks like precise will be the new sheriff in town. But all traits seems to be more viable with next patch.

Awaiting PTS tests before I say more

That works just as well. I received a precise lightning staff for my weekly reward not too long ago (like 2 weeks ago). As for stamina builds, I have TONS of stamina precise weapons. 2H, bows, and dual-wield. Lol. So I suppose all that I'm missing is a precise inferno staff.

Your nirnhoned inferno will probably be just fine. Especially with the frontloading CP system. Doesn't take many points to get either 2752 penetration or 9% crit, which makes all three traits more viable for damage dealing.

This change looks great.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Have you tested it on pts?
Judging by patch notes, nothing suggests that nirn would be op next patch... Most likely itll still be behind precise and sharpened.

Yes but not nearly as much as it has been, likely less then 2%

There are some possibilities though, such as sharpened+thief, precise+pen mundus.
I understand that everyone wants to REJOICE that their grind might be ended, but without solid proofs thats just assumptions.

I agree with the possibilites. There is going to be much more variety in stuff with these numbers.

Also my comment was more about sharpened to the other two, as precise and nirn were already within 1% of each other in the average build.

Morgul667

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Have you tested it on pts?
Judging by patch notes, nothing suggests that nirn would be op next patch... Most likely itll still be behind precise and sharpened.

Yes but not nearly as much as it has been, likely less then 2%

There are some possibilities though, such as sharpened+thief, precise+pen mundus.
I understand that everyone wants to REJOICE that their grind might be ended, but without solid proofs thats just assumptions.

I agree with the possibilites. There is going to be much more variety in stuff with these numbers.

Also my comment was more about sharpened to the other two, as precise and nirn were already within 1% of each other in the average build.

Yep I think it should allow much more diversity. Most of those traits should provide similar results with the right CP allocation.

DRXHarbinger

Love the way you locked all them staves bruh, guessing you are very protective from the decon and destroy hammer.

DjMuscleboy02

600+ runs and the only inferno staves I've ever seen have been defending so I'm still screwed, but hey at least there's possibly more options now! And I do have Nirn/Infused/Precise bows for my stam, luckily that seems to be what I'm maining this patch.

Ch4mpTW

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

600+ runs and the only inferno staves I've ever seen have been defending so I'm still screwed, but hey at least there's possibly more options now! And I do have Nirn/Infused/Precise bows for my stam, luckily that seems to be what I'm maining this patch.

Damn bruh. The only staves I've gotten so far that were inferno were: Defending, decisive, infused, nirnhoned, and charged. Not a single precise or sharpened. Not from final chest or weekly reward. Meanwhile... Multiple sharpened ice staves. =_=

bebynnag

i have a nirn inferno

sharpened lightning

precise lightning & inferno

ive gotta b able to do something with that right?

(sharpened, nirn & precice in pretty much all the stam weapons)

SanTii.92

Astrid_V wrote: »

The only one inferno staff I ever got was sharpened, so now I will need to grind vMA for precise/nirnhoned? No ty.

You won't need to really. You can adjust now easily, and even if it ends up not being the best setup, it won't probably be too far from it.

Malamar1229

Going to laugh back at you when you console scrubs realize nirn is not OP as you think.

Feanor

@Asayre has already mathed it out. According to him it's sharpened > infused > precise > nirn, but the gaps became smaller. Definitely a bit more diversity.

Ch4mpTW

Feanor wrote: »

@Asayre has already mathed it out. According to him it's sharpened > infused > precise > nirn, but the gaps became smaller. Definitely a bit more diversity.

I have infused inferno and ice too. Just no infused lightning. So the hunt must resume. =_=

bebynnag

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

@Asayre has already mathed it out. According to him it's sharpened > infused > precise > nirn, but the gaps became smaller. Definitely a bit more diversity.

I have infused inferno and ice too. Just no infused lightning. So the hunt must resume. =_=

i have no infused on anything , not deconned it. just never dropped it

i should get of the forum & get back to grinding i guess

seedubsrun

I'm pretty stoked too. I have my sharpened but also precise, nirn, and charged. They say in the patch notes that burning should do about double damage now ( along with scaling off magicka AND spell damage) and the buff to nirn adds about 200 spell damage so I want to see if my charged maelstrom inferno paired with my lightning nirnhoned wrecks shop. Might not be BiS but could still be pretty fun

Magıc

Feanor wrote: »

@Asayre has already mathed it out. According to him it's sharpened > infused > precise > nirn, but the gaps became smaller. Definitely a bit more diversity.

For sure, sharpened is BiS. But that isn't the point anymore, which staff does the most damage isn't the problem. It's now a combination of trait, mundus and cp to hit the required pen.

The best way to do that on PTS atm is precise, lover mundus and 10 points into pen CP.

Universe

Precise>Nirnhoned.
Precise is about 10% higher dps, same duration.
I tested it several times on PTS.
But if you want to use an inferior weapon, go ahead

s7732425ub17_ESO

Nirn on a gold CP 160 staff gives a flat 200 more spell damage. Compare that to how much damage you get from precise and sharpened, and nirn comes out the loser still.

Aliyavana

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

To all those like me who never could get their hands on a sharpened inferno or lightning staff, next patch is when we get the last laugh (if you got anything Nirnhoned >_>). I sure hope none of you were foolish enough to deconstruct any nirnhoned weapons you got. Me? I'm just waiting on the next update to go live, so I can lol so hard at all of the meta slaves who deconstructed any and all nirnhoned weapons that dropped for them.




I have tons of stamina weapons in nirnhoned too (though I also had all stamina weapons in precise and sharpened as well), so my stamina toons shouldn't be caught lacking either. Thanks for this, ZOS. Oh how I shall have a hardy laugh upon the launch of the next update.

Infused and precise is the new meta, nirn is just ok