Nerf Soul Assault On Console!

mmolegends44

In my opinion you now see more people using soul assault alot more recently I even heard some people say their tooltip was 99k at least make it interruptable like raidiant destruction is and no you cannot block through a soul assault or break line of sight of it!

Voxicity

I run it on my stamblade's offbar and it does indeed need a bit of tweaking.

I don't understand the ''on console'' bit though

Alucardo

I'd rather it just did one big direct damage attack. Like the final boss of vMA shoots that necrotic skull thing. Still make it undodgeable, but at least when stam builds block it, they're only blocking one attack, not the equivalent of 6..

QuebraRegra

99k you say? hmmm? ....immediately slots SOULASSULT on STAMBLADE

Reverb

You can break los on it. I also have good results rolling or sprinting backwards to get out of its max range, or just block healing through it. It's one of the ults that rarely makes an appearance on my death recaps.

Asmael

The answer is in fixing block cost, since that was meant to be the counter.

Alucardo

Reverb wrote: »

You can break los on it. I also have good results rolling or sprinting backwards to get out of its max range, or just block healing through it. It's one of the ults that rarely makes an appearance on my death recaps.

Surprisingly it doesn't take much to LoS it either. If there's even a slight bump in the ground it'll break and you've just lost 100 ultimate.

KingYogi415

(Insert skill here) Killed me once, somthing somthing stupid OP, somthing somthing PLEASE NERF!

-90% percent of threads these dayz.

-_-

Alucardo

KingYogi415 wrote: »

(Insert skill here) Killed me once, somthing somthing stupid OP, somthing somthing PLEASE NERF!

-90% percent of threads these dayz.

-_-

It's amusing that the number of stamina nightblades went up in Morrowind and the nerf posts for undodgeable abilities has gone up.

Joy_Division

I have not died once because of this skill. Just block/shield/heal through it.

mmolegends44

no you can't break line of sight on it raidiant destruction you could but when you get hit with soul assault and you try to break line of sight of it it does not do the full damage noticed that but still hits hard.

Enslaved

"Never trust a guy that uses skill that has ASS in its name"

mmolegends44

the " on console" means Ps4 it is really crazy cause our console server has the most exploits out of every system it is really insane it's like playing a hacked modded game with all types of problems and no results fixing it.

Alucardo

Enslaved wrote: »

"Never trust a guy that uses skill that has ASS in its name"

Assassin's Will has 2 asses. Just saying.

leepalmer95

They should just reduce it from 8 ticks to 4.

Even if you survive via block it costs like 25k~ stamina on a medium build

MrBetadine

please nerf PvP nerfer

Enslaved

Alucardo wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

"Never trust a guy that uses skill that has ASS in its name"

Assassin's Will has 2 asses. Just saying.

Zos will have to nerf ASS skills, I guess

timidobserver

It's amazing how many stambuilds still react to SA by dodge spamning. I've run into very few stambuilds that react to it properly.

Voxicity

leepalmer95 wrote: »

They should just reduce it from 8 ticks to 4.

Even if you survive via block it costs like 25k~ stamina on a medium build

This is the main problem.

I could block a DK leap and vigor back up for like 5k stamina and continue the fight. Soul assault on a stamina character (in open world without LOS) drains your stamina way more than it should do.

Beardimus

Seriously i tried to focus on this skill and all i could kill were newbs. It's so easy to counter, block, heal. It's very weak

Alucardo

SA is actually a relatively weak skill. It's only really dangerous if you're within execute range, because it ticks so fast . Similar to how you can receive a 10k radiant in .5 seconds to instantly finish you off. But if you cast it while they are full or around half, it will barely do anything.
I don't think this skill would be any good if they reduced the number of ticks. If they went that route I would much prefer it to be just a single blast of damage.

Shad0wfire99

mmolegends44 wrote: »

the " on console" means Ps4 it is really crazy cause our console server has the most exploits out of every system it is really insane it's like playing a hacked modded game with all types of problems and no results fixing it.

Source?

DRXHarbinger

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

mmolegends44 wrote: »

the " on console" means Ps4 it is really crazy cause our console server has the most exploits out of every system it is really insane it's like playing a hacked modded game with all types of problems and no results fixing it.

Source?

He's been killed 3 times today. It's proof enough lol.

OT soul assault is immensely op. Stealth+spam surge for frag proc+chuck frag at bruh on horse+fury+SA = OP comes to the forums to complain about my ap farm. Has to be OP and an exploit at the same time.

TequilaFire

mmolegends44 wrote: »

the " on console" means Ps4 it is really crazy cause our console server has the most exploits out of every system it is really insane it's like playing a hacked modded game with all types of problems and no results fixing it.

Exaggerate much?
Same problems are on all platforms.

bubbygink

This ult can be tough to deal with solo but I honestly laugh when people use this when I'm running with my small group. Using soul assault leaves you completely defenseless for 4 seconds. Typically our group just focuses and quickly kills anybody that tries to use this against us. It is truly the "Xv1 ultimate" in my opinion. Not very effective in group play because it renders you defenseless and is single target. Don't think a nerf is needed at all.

andreasranasen

Learn to Play?

Azurya

not just on the console, nerf it everywhere! All and everything should be nerfed, all is much to overpowered! I say: TOTAL NERF NOW!!!

to end all this endless discussions on skills which are to strong, ( which wrecked my StamNB) and procsets, passives and all other things which there are always so many opposite to it, I want to propose that ZOS removes ALL SKILLS, ALL SETS, All CP, ALL ATTRIBUTES, ALL RACIALS, they should remove all and everything, which someone could probably use to build his personal Character. All sets should be like: 2pcs grants you 2 lollies, 3 pcs grants you 3 donuts, 4 pcs grants you a lemonade and 5 pcs takes you to the pool.
we should battle no longer against each other in cyrodil or against mobs and monsters anywhere else, we should instead back cakes and make useless stuff, so that nobody feels that he/she cannot handle his character and feels abused by others who put some more time in L2P.
All get standard the broom and bucket set and we all have lots of fun.

GDOFWR420

Funny I used this all weekend on Xbox and it's the first time in a long time since I used it, now people want it nerfed, How about you just quit playing.

Lord-Otto

Alucardo wrote: »

SA is actually a relatively weak skill. It's only really dangerous if you're within execute range, because it ticks so fast . Similar to how you can receive a 10k radiant in .5 seconds to instantly finish you off. But if you cast it while they are full or around half, it will barely do anything.
I don't think this skill would be any good if they reduced the number of ticks. If they went that route I would much prefer it to be just a single blast of damage.

It would become even more lethal, as halving the ticks would mean double damage on that first, instant tick.
Curse->Fury->Frag->SA? Can already see the nerf threads incoming!
x'D

Drummerx04

I've started running it recently, It's a pretty decent pressure ult. Being cheap, strong and undodgeable is nice, but it definitely leaves you open. You run into an interesting "Do I go full defensive against SA, or do I take the chance and try to burst him down?" The caster also needs to be mindful of casting at a good time, aka when the target is CC'd or low health or otherwise not in an ideal position to burst you down.

I've actually had some success using this skill in 1vX situations to burst down a target before getting swarmed, and I've also used it to kill the 1vXers before they can dodge into a tower and run 10 people around for a few minutes.

Side note: this skill is disgusting in combo with skoria.

BigES

Joy_Division wrote: »

I have not died once because of this skill. Just block/shield/heal through it.

Lol, Joy. You always end up writing out my exact comment.

I kill tons of people with it. Never die to it.

It's really only effective against squishy players. Not trying to insult you OP, but SA seems to only consistently kill high damage/burst players who have sacrificed durability for burst. Characters in medium armor, and/or proc sets that don't have enough spell/weapon damage to heal themselves. It hurts average durability players (good players with medium resistances) as well, but they're usually able to block/heal through it unless I get a full Dark Flare debuff, purifying light, spear, SA combo on them. At that level of burst though, its reasonable that an ultimate can kill a medium durability player, so I don't see the issue. Good nightblades can cloak my SA unless I detect pot them.

For those getting stamina drained, you're probably not approaching mitigating against this ability correctly. You shouldn't be blocking a SA at full health. You should only block the SA if you start to dip in the 50% range to get some temporary mitigation to heal back up.