So I heard the red diamond passive Isn't very good

bloodthirstyvampire

A lot of people are essentially saying its a waste of skill points, but what could Zos do to change it, increase the chance of activation maybe, or the amount of health recovered, maybe something new I don't know, whats yours opinion maybe you like it the way it is.

Alucardo

3 suggestions

- Let it proc from any damage source, not just melee attacks
- Increase the chance to 20%
- Have it return magicka and stamina, as Imperial is supposed to be a balanced class anyway

I'd honestly be ok with any of them, but it does need a slight improvement.

bloodthirstyvampire

Alucardo wrote: »

3 suggestions

- Let it proc from any damage source, not just melee attacks
- Increase the chance to 20%
- Have it return magicka and stamina, as Imperial is supposed to be a balanced class anyway

I'd honestly be ok with any of them, but it does need a slight improvement.

Definitely I believe if your suggestion was a thing it may assist nightblade a lot in terms of resource management

Sleep724

Have it similar to the redguard passive that returns stamina but health instead for imperial.

bloodthirstyvampire

Sleep724 wrote: »

Have it similar to the redguard passive that returns stamina but health instead for imperial.

Interesting I've never played a redguard before, I like your suggestion

GreenSoup2HoT

I have been the one forum user asking thread after thread to get this passive reworked.

Even with 35k health on my Imperial Nightblade pvp build im only getting 1050 health back. This is on a 10% chance for only melee attacks.

This passive used to be amazing when it proc'd off caltrops, you got loads of health back. It made players actually think about how they should fight you because if a bunch of players stood on your caltrops.. you were very hard to take down.

Alucardo wrote: »

3 suggestions

- Let it proc from any damage source, not just melee attacks
- Increase the chance to 20%
- Have it return magicka and stamina, as Imperial is supposed to be a balanced class anyway

I'd honestly be ok with any of them, but it does need a slight improvement.

I disagree with some of your ideas.

1: Imperials are known for being physically fit, not as strong as Orcs or Nords but far more intelligent when it came to battle strategy. They are also the shield wielding race, the only other being Red Guard. So keeping Red Diamond Melee like Adrenaline Rush from Red Guard should remain.

2: Red Guards return stamina. Imperials return health. I'd like to keep these aspects of these races intact. So adding magicka and stamina to red diamond is personally immersion breaking for me honestly.




Here's some idea's that i think would put Red Diamond in a better place:

1: Let Caltrops proc Red Diamond again. Simply because Caltrops is an Alliance War Skill and Cryodill is an Imperials home land. Give them strategic value in medium/large scale scenarios for lots of health return. This will make holding the front-line as a stamina Imperial build much more fun in my opinion.

2: Let Red Diamond mimic Adrenaline Rush. Get rid of the 10% rng and put the ability on a cool-down. If you know you can get some health return every say 3-6 seconds depending the cool-down, you could use this to your advantage instead of praying to the rng gods for a proc.

3: Make the heal scale to your level instead of maximum health. This will make the passive more valuable for all Imperials instead of high health builds only.

FerrumnCutem

Although passives are meant to be very slight increases, the red diamond passive would be fine if you would have a chance to return health on hit. But it doesn't. It has a chance to restore health on MELEE attacks only, which makes it a horrible passive for a big part of people who play as an Imperial.

IMO the best way to buff it without making it OP would be to have it have a 10% chance to restore stamina/magicka (whichever one is highest) on direct damage attacks.

This would go with the idea of Imperial being a balanced race for almost any class and setup.

Zordrage

I just gonna ressurect this Topic because that Passive is still a Load of poo poo.......

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Best passive in the game imo

bloodthirstyvampire

It procs like every second