So.. what is with trader stores showing up no sale items??

Fallen_Ray

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

It's not bullying. Simply a few try hards struggling to differentiate between some kiddy on store in a game and real life.

You see some of these people continuously having spats in-game with other guild leaders like their in-game guild is an extension of their real life worth. OMFG, you have a large guild? Really? You have made it in life. You wonder how these people will function once the servers get switched off because some of them breathe, eat and sleep their guild. They have nothing else going for them.

@Prof_Bawbag LOL!!! the no-lifes, fear the no-lifes!!!!

newtinmpls

I"m sorry to hear this is running rampant on some places.

I've not seen much in the way of "empty guild slots" on PC NA or PC EU (I will say that EU has better prices, less inflation and seems more mellow).

Is this because you can inherently get multiple accounts on Xbox or console in general? On PC I have two accounts because I bought two accounts (and set them up and so on). I can't imagine shelling out for 6.

GreenhaloX

Galenus_of_Pergamon wrote: »

On PS4 NA, there are five notorious guilds that have formed a cabal (i.e. a secret political clique or faction). Collectively, they are known as the Mournhold Mafia. I'll refrain from naming names for now.

Each of these 5 guilds bid on a main trader and then 2-3 other traders with their shell guilds, respectively. They rotate through all of the capital cities in a confusing, yet premeditated, manner to avoid the appearance of any pattern. This is 5 guilds owning 10-15 traders and selling the traders they don't need.

I am the guildmaster of a social guild that consistently held a trader in Daggerfall until the Mafia started making hits on my block.

The Vice President of my guild contacted Zenimax about this matter. While forming a coalition with other guilds is not against the terms and conditions, creating (and subsequently dissolving or downsizing) shell guilds to allow one guild to have access to multiple traders each week is a direct violation of the terms and conditions.

I will be starting a petition soon asking Zenimax to make a guild trader inaccessible until the following sunday evening if a guild dissolves or downsizes and loses that trader.

This would make this massive monopolization by the Mournhold Mafia less realistic and attainable while giving more guilds a chance to enter the market and hopefully even bring prices down.

Ha ha.. really.. this is happening? Here I thought this is just a video game. Surely, it seems, from what you are saying, there are a lot of folks with a lot of times on their hands. Man, this game is more like in real life in more ways than one; much like bigger corporations in real life encroaching upon other areas to take over and trample upon smaller entities that don't confound to the bigger ones.

GreenhaloX

Galenus_of_Pergamon wrote: »

@gard, how would this work?

People would just continuously undercut each other? Would bots (real life prisoners) be forced to farm all day to sell gold and mats super low?

It sounds like it would bring prices down. PC prices are a lot lower than console and it has the addon website.

I see this undercut thing, supposedly posting items 1 gold piece less than others, is just a joke. Somebody doing it just have to be pranking another, cause it doesn't make sense. Sure, there are competitions, and you want your items to be sold. You can check all the different trader stores that are up and see what others are posting the prices, and then you can post your at a lower prices.. but by just 1 gold piece, it has to be a joke.

Tan9oSuccka

Galenus_of_Pergamon wrote: »

On PS4 NA, there are five notorious guilds that have formed a cabal (i.e. a secret political clique or faction). Collectively, they are known as the Mournhold Mafia. I'll refrain from naming names for now.

Each of these 5 guilds bid on a main trader and then 2-3 other traders with their shell guilds, respectively. They rotate through all of the capital cities in a confusing, yet premeditated, manner to avoid the appearance of any pattern. This is 5 guilds owning 10-15 traders and selling the traders they don't need.

I am the guildmaster of a social guild that consistently held a trader in Daggerfall until the Mafia started making hits on my block.

The Vice President of my guild contacted Zenimax about this matter. While forming a coalition with other guilds is not against the terms and conditions, creating (and subsequently dissolving or downsizing) shell guilds to allow one guild to have access to multiple traders each week is a direct violation of the terms and conditions.

I will be starting a petition soon asking Zenimax to make a guild trader inaccessible until the following sunday evening if a guild dissolves or downsizes and loses that trader.

This would make this massive monopolization by the Mournhold Mafia less realistic and attainable while giving more guilds a chance to enter the market and hopefully even bring prices down.

Great post. There's a small handful of people that pretty much run the guild racket on PS4 NA.

Since it's such a tight clique, Many are scared to call them out or say anything, over fear of being blacklisted (which has happened to some).