This is outrageous!

Emothic

A fellow guild member of mine posted on our guild face book of a picture of him queued into PvP for Xbox One- NA. In Vevic (30 day standard CP) they were placed 149th in queue, and since Xbox gets two CP campaings. He went to queue in the Shor campaign (7 day standard CP) and they were placed 193. Meanwhile both Non-CP campaigns were completely empty.

I wondered if ZoS have figured out that players don't want Non-CP campaigns and will actually bring more back. Or if they will just make up some lame excuse and take the lazy way out by not doing anything, the way the always like to do.

Ashtaris

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

kuro-dono

its all because on console, ppl are too much obsessed with their cp advantage over ppl who dont have, since on consoles its harder to cheese as much as it is on pc, therefore, ppl cheese with cp vs rest of the world who arent anywhere near the max cp. ON PC. you can animation cancel yourself to win. proctardblades, jesusbeam healbots, unkillable dk:s and such, those are easily viable even without cp, and therefore non cp is very popular on pc eu and on pc na its good/okayish.

Emothic

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

No, everyone complained that CP need to be balanced in PvP they didn't complain that it should be removed. The only reason why CP was mostly removed from campaigns is because Battlegrounds were going to be non-cp. That's the only reason why, and ZoS actually said that's the reason why.

CP was rememoved because the developers didn't want to take the time to try and balance two seperate PvP game modes, and opted out to take the lazy and easy way out.

Malic

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

Go figure?

Theres nothing to figure out, its pretty simple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

Rohamad_Ali

Malic wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

Go figure?

Theres nothing to figure out, its pretty simple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

Not everyone complained about CP . Those in the know , knew proc sets , poison and siege over perform in those areas because those never got adjusted for no cp campaigns . So Cadwell is correct that if you don't understand the reason you lack exactly what you need to know to fix the issue .

Durham

What's funny is no response from ZOS...

DaveMoeDee

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

Completely untrue. A minority wanted to remove CP.

kuro-dono

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

Completely untrue. A minority wanted to remove CP.

there is no way you know that as an fact. there is no ultimate poll regarding it and forum warriors? they dont make vast majority of eso players. they make maybe 1-10%

Father_X_Zombie

Zos: hey the only non cp campaign has 1 bar at primetime, lets take out a cp campaign and add a non cp one!

rivenjr

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

I disagree and the statement above is completely inaccurate. I actually had a poll during the CP removal/ double AP test week. Most were in favor of keeping CP.

Glamdring

We need atleat 1 more cp campaign, the queues are getting ridiculous even on weekdays.

Aiphaton

shhh i enjoy every evening the 250q on PC-eu

Crom_CCCXVI

I have 730CP and like non CP more, not having to deal with the stupid troll tanks that have 20 guys beating on them is more than enough reason.

Crom_CCCXVI

People cried non stop about CP...
" He had 630, I only had 625 than was why he beat me"

I think some people thought once CP dissappeared that the best players weren't going to be the best players anymore. Since you die faster in non-CP, they got smoked by someone who was simply really good and went back to hide in CP where even a bad player can build a troll tank and stay alive.

davey1107

its all because on console, ppl are too much obsessed with their cp advantage over ppl who dont have,

Actually, mostly I want the CPs so I can kill sanctimonious, pretentious pc players when they wander out of the 90's. Lol.

I've never stalked lower CP players. I dislike non-CP campaigns because I spend hours working with my character, and my rotation, timing, balance and dps are all things I practice and refine. When forced into a scenario where all the math changes, its effing obnoxious.

If CPs were out of the game entirely, I guess that'd be okay with me. But having some sections be CP and some non-CP is really annoying. So long as they're a part of the game, I will never, ever, ever, ever play a non-cp section. And yes, by the way @ZOS_JessicaFolsom that means that although I spent $60 on Morrowind I haven't stepped foot in battlegrounds. And yes, that makes me feel a little ripped off. The CP issues were one of the several reasons I was personally unhappy with the price and deliveries in the expansion. Next year I'm not going to buy the chapter until it's been out a while and the price comes down.

Zbigb4life

Ashtaris wrote: »

Everyone complained that ZOS should just remove CP's from PVP. They did, and now everyone complains that they can't play in a CP campaign. Go figure

I never asked them to remove CP's from PVP, I would like them to get rid of the cap level for CP.