Battleground Viper

Floki_Vilgerdarson
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Is Viper mandatory in battlegrounds? No CP = gear, and skills only.

Viper and Velidreth seems to be the norm.

Why no diversity?

Are the other proc sets for Stam garbage?

I tank and heal so I don't care what proc set is best.

It seems like a lack of creativity in players or are the gear sets heavily unbalanced forcing dps to run these sets more than others?

Love,

Floki

Edited by Floki_Vilgerdarson on June 28, 2017 9:57PM
  • kuro-dono
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    all you needtoknow is>be sorcornb
  • leepalmer95
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    All proc sets are meta there.

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  • Drummerx04
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    I've seen all classes stam or mag work pretty well in battlegrounds.

    You can get away with not using them, but they hit as hard or harder than most skills and even a few ultimates in no CP pvp, so not really mandatory, but you are intentionally playing with a handicap in BGs if you don't use at least one.
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    Drummerx04 wrote: »
    I've seen all classes stam or mag work pretty well in battlegrounds.

    You can get away with not using them, but they hit as hard or harder than most skills and even a few ultimates in no CP pvp, so not really mandatory, but you are intentionally playing with a handicap in BGs if you don't use at least one.

    The issue is that sustain is challenging in non-CP situations. The advantage of proc sets is that you can go full on regen because your damage stats don't affect the proc damage. With high regen you can dodge roll your way to victory by making the opposition use resources on attacks that never land. Once out of resources, they can't avoid the proc burst. It's even less complicated against unskilled players.

    If you do the same without proc sets you'll never generate enough DPS to kill a half decent player.
  • Kneighbors
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    It was supposed to be named ViperGrounds.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    I like sheer venom more so then viper since it's a 100% guarantee hit with a really nice dot :wink:

    But if you run 5 viper and 5 sheer venom with poisons as well omg that would be fun let me go check that out
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    kuro-dono wrote: »
    all you needtoknow is>be sorcornb

    I suppose until they adjust the scoring system, sorcs tend to get the most ranged executes with implosion and mages fury, so they certainly get credit for a lot of kills.

    But if you are just talking about surviving in 4v4v4, Wardens, templars and DKs do OK as well.



    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on June 28, 2017 11:50PM
  • ArchMikem
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    kuro-dono wrote: »
    all you needtoknow is>be sorcornb

    I actually jusy had a BG match where everyone got curb stomped by this MagSorc duo spamming shields and frags.
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  • SilverWF
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    your damage stats don't affect the proc damage
    Actually, it affects: tooltip of the Viper on mages is lower than on melees.
    Not too much tho: something like 9k vs 11k
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Actually, it affects: tooltip of the Viper on mages is lower than on melees.
    Not too much tho: something like 9k vs 11k

    It doesn't the only thing that affects proc dmg is cp and buffs like major/ minor berserk.
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    It doesn't the only thing that affects proc dmg is cp and buffs like major/ minor berserk.

    Aat the same account without any buffs.
    I believe it somehow related on the max corresponding stat (i.e. Stamina for Viper and Mag for Ilambris, but not sure)
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    When sets dramatically outperform anything else.. it is the players fault or zos's?
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  • MilwaukeeScott
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    Drummerx04 wrote: »
    you are intentionally playing with a handicap in BGs if you don't use at least one.

    %100

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  • Vanthras79
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    When sets dramatically outperform anything else.. it is the players fault or zos's?

    Let's ask Wrobes.

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    Aside from your standard procblades, I am not seeing as much viper/vele as much as I am other proc combos.

    Viper/Selene seems to be the most popular among stamblades with the good old ambush/suprise attack/incap combo, but I am noticing a lot of other stam classes running red mountain/valkyn and using bloodthirst as their primary spam.

    Every now and then I see a stam DK in heavy armor and running tremorscale and viper still. Most DK's seem to be magicka nowadays though.

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  • Zardayne
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    ArchMikem wrote: »

    I actually jusy had a BG match where everyone got curb stomped by this MagSorc duo spamming shields and frags.

    and everyone's still more worried about proc sets...give me a break...
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    %100

    And there's the fix...
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