Should Concussion Proc Minor Vulnerability on Enemies?

Avran_Sylt

I understand that in the end game it doesn't really matter much, as you'll have enough players dealing some kind of shock damage that all classes will make use of the debuff on the enemy, but it seems a little odd in solo or small group play, that an AoE focused element (shock) can debuff an enemy with the same single target damage increase that you'd get with a fire staff, while at the same time increasing your AoE damage.

My Question for you is: Should Lightning Damage proc Minor Vulnerability via the Concussed status effect, or should it do something else? Something like a small AoE burst centered on the enemy, which would amplify the AoE theme of the element.

idk

Yeah - It Should Proc Minor Vulnerability

Might seem odd to you but it was a deliberate change recently made by Zos. The change was part of a rebalancing of dstaves. The debuff itself has been in game for almost a year and has been very popular in PvE.

Players also receive the debuff in PvE when lightning comes from NPCs and there is plenty of that in HoF and some in AA/SO. I do not recall any in HRC.

No big deal. Although it is odd you pose these questions yet provide nothing to explain why you think it is odd. Well, other than the overly general statement like what was made in this OP.

Avran_Sylt

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

I did. "that an AoE focused element (shock) can debuff an enemy with the same single target damage increase that you'd get with a fire staff, while at the same time increasing your AoE damage."

Ancient Knowledge:
Lightning Staff increases your damage done with area of effect abilities by 8%
Flame Staff increases your damage done with single target abilities by 8%

One would assume that the Single Target Elements Status Effect would increase Single Target Damage. Burning does do that, slightly, but Minor Vulnerability does so much more for single target damage, but procs off of the AoE Elemental Status.

In all honesty it'd be a logical step to have Burning apply Minor Vulnerability for its duration. As Burning is the status effect that comes from the Single Target focused Element.

idk

Yeah - It Should Proc Minor Vulnerability

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@Giles.floydub17_ESO

I did. "that an AoE focused element (shock) can debuff an enemy with the same single target damage increase that you'd get with a fire staff, while at the same time increasing your AoE damage."

Ancient Knowledge:
Lightning Staff increases your damage done with area of effect abilities by 8%
Flame Staff increases your damage done with single target abilities by 8%

One would assume that the Single Target Elements Status Effect would increase Single Target Damage. Burning does do that, slightly, but Minor Vulnerability does so much more for single target damage, but procs off of the AoE Elemental Status.

In all honesty it'd be a logical step to have Burning apply Minor Vulnerability for its duration. As Burning is the status effect that comes from the Single Target focused Element.

It is merely coincidence that the % is the same. Nothing more. I think the source is pretty irrelevant. I do not see the relevance of the burning effect since ancient knowledge is not related to minor vulnerability and burning effect can be applied by an aoe making your argument rather conflicting.

This thread makes no sense. You have not presented a logical argument.

Edited for clarity.

Edit. You state what you think is the logical step but as I mention how the ancient knowledge and minor vulnerability are not related then there is no logic in what you are suggesting. I will not be returning to this thread since it really does not make sense.

F7sus4

Yeah - It Should Proc Minor Vulnerability

I see where you're going...

With Exploiter passive being the end-game raiding must have it feels like you're "forced" into Lightning Staff and 75 Thaumaturge, even though normally you perhaps might not use it at all. While I partially agree on that part, at least now each element has a meaningful background. And I guess this is the place to bring the Fire being +8% single-target and Lightning being +8% AoE argument giving you even more things to consider while building a character. In the end, someone else is casting Lightning Blockades (and usually it's also healers' job) so you have all buffs/debuffs provided externally. I hope this responds the issue at least partially.