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Magicka DK Theory Build

Sanguis_Tiberius
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I'll keep this short.
I love theory crafting and trying weird new builds for either pvp or pve.
Build type: pvp
Primary Goal: very high survivability
Secondary: burst damage
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Light armor
5 piece armor master
5 piece burning spell weave *or* silks of the sun
2 piece pirate skeleton or bloodspawn
Front bar: sword and shield bws or silks 5 piece, 4 piece armor master
Back bar: resto 4 piece bws or silks, 5 piece armor master
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Looking for suggestions before I pull the trigger on this set and test. Obviously not cheap crafting. I've collected bws and silks already.
Edited by Sanguis_Tiberius on June 26, 2017 9:20PM
  • Jim_Pipp
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    Question - why do you want armor master on both bars?

    As it is proceed by an armor ability, you only need the 5th piece on the bar where the ability is slotted. Possibly it would be better to have a bsw/sun 5 piece active on both bars to get the most uptime on bonus spell damage.
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  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    5 piece armor master is only on back bar to proc the bonus resistance.
    Maybe I typed in wrong.
    5 piece bsw/silks active on front attack bar
    4 piece armor master active

    Back bar would have 5 piece armor master and 4 piece bws/silks

    I'd like bws/silks active on both bars but I don't have enough slots for both bws/silks and armor master to be active on both bars.
  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    I'm considering swapping a swordboard for dual wield swords for the damage boost.
    Crunching numbers, spell damage might be low unless I run bsw for the proc boost.
  • Sigtric
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    5 piece armor master is only on back bar to proc the bonus resistance.
    Maybe I typed in wrong.
    5 piece bsw/silks active on front attack bar
    4 piece armor master active

    Back bar would have 5 piece armor master and 4 piece bws/silks

    I'd like bws/silks active on both bars but I don't have enough slots for both bws/silks and armor master to be active on both bars.

    BSW can proc on the front bar and carry its effect over to back bar after a bar swap, so it gets an edge over Silks in this situation because of that.

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  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    That's exactly what I was thinking. Silks would only win if it was active on both bars. Plus bsw has a 1 piece magicka increase so that's a bonus. Regen might be a pain with the battle roar nerf and no regen bonuses in armor master or bsw.
  • Sigtric
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    That's exactly what I was thinking. Silks would only win if it was active on both bars. Plus bsw has a 1 piece magicka increase so that's a bonus. Regen might be a pain with the battle roar nerf and no regen bonuses in armor master or bsw.

    One or two regen glyphs on jewelry and/or a cost reduc glyph, it shouldn't be too bad

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    Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |

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  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    I'm looking forward to testing the build. I'll try to update the post when it's complete.
  • Savos_Saren
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    I have a high survivablility/burst set on my Argonian mDK tank. As most people suggest- I have SnB on the front bar and I have a destro staff on the back bar:

    5h/1l/1m setup

    5pc Clever Alchemist
    5pc Burning Spellweave
    2pc Valkyn Skoria


    On the destro bar- keep your 5th pc as Burning Spellweave. You'll only have 4 Clever Alchemist.

    The reason I'm running it on my Argonian is because this setup doesn't have any regen... but the Argonian gets multiple bonuses from using potions (procs C.A. and it fills all three pools from the Argonian racial passive). When you're locking down enemies in PVP- your resources will start to drain... and you'll be surrounded. At this time- you'll REALLY want that burst of damage and a potion. You'll also refill those resources when you use your ultimate (usually batsworm or Dragon Leap)
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  • ETROOPER3
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    i have 5 piece sun
    lightning and fire moondancer staff
    moondancer necklace and two rings
    all the passives i should have and i am squishy as hell is there anything i should or could do to help my sustain i have crit surge as my shield have been using it and it doesnt help much do i need to level it more or what?
  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    jaburns wrote: »
    I have a high survivablility/burst set on my Argonian mDK tank. As most people suggest- I have SnB on the front bar and I have a destro staff on the back bar:

    5h/1l/1m setup

    5pc Clever Alchemist
    5pc Burning Spellweave
    2pc Valkyn Skoria


    On the destro bar- keep your 5th pc as Burning Spellweave. You'll only have 4 Clever Alchemist.

    The reason I'm running it on my Argonian is because this setup doesn't have any regen... but the Argonian gets multiple bonuses from using potions (procs C.A. and it fills all three pools from the Argonian racial passive). When you're locking down enemies in PVP- your resources will start to drain... and you'll be surrounded. At this time- you'll REALLY want that burst of damage and a potion. You'll also refill those resources when you use your ultimate (usually batsworm or Dragon Leap)

    Other than the s&b, where's your survivability coming from? Assuming you use shields.
  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    ETROOPER3 wrote: »
    i have 5 piece sun
    lightning and fire moondancer staff
    moondancer necklace and two rings
    all the passives i should have and i am squishy as hell is there anything i should or could do to help my sustain i have crit surge as my shield have been using it and it doesnt help much do i need to level it more or what?

    With moondancer, etc, sounds like a pve build? You shouldn't need super high survivability if your tank and healer are doing a decent job.
  • CMurder435
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    @Sanguis_Tiberius

    Haven't seen that idea b4. I love theorycrafting too bro, specially mag dk builds. I started a new series on my YouTube channel this week to demonstrate many of the ideas, concepts, playstyles, and set ups I theorrycraft. You should check out the 1st build video I put up called Jesus Dragon and lemme know what you think. https://youtu.be/sWaYQwMwcCY
  • Sanguis_Tiberius
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    @CMurder435 I'll definitely check that out when I get a chance.
  • CMurder435
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    @CMurder435 I'll definitely check that out when I get a chance.

    There's 2 vids of gameplay with that set up also. Nothing special but examples nonetheless lol my capture rekt my other clips in bgs.. idk why but it glitches out in bgs..
    I'm gonna try to get 2 more builds up for.the series this week. Hope you like it :D it was nice seeing your forum post promoting creative concepts and theorycrafting. Most of the community posts salty need ok proc QQ...
    I think a lot of people miss out on this part of the game bc they copy/paste the 1st BiS YouTube video build each patch.
  • Thogard
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    You could go with the new FotM: desert rose, impregnable, and Skoria. Sturdy on all your armor to block indefinitely.
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