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Spear Shards is weaker than Necrotic Orbs

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joaaocaampos
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Yes, I know, Spear Shards has a lower cost, a morph that regenerates Magicka and Stamina at the same time (Luminous Shards), and you can choose where to put the Spear. I know.

BUT...

Synergy only regenerates the resource of ONE ally. In addition, only one ally can activate the synergy FOR EACH Spear thrown. In a dungeon, I need to cast THREE Spears Shards so everyone can activate the synergy. What about a Trial?

ZOS, I thought I didn't need the Necrotic Orb anymore, but I do need it, even playing as a Templar Healer!

In fact, I'm seriously considering removing Spear Shards from my bar. If I need to help the team with damage (or I'm in a dungeon), I can choose Mystic Orbs. On the other hand, I can choose Energy Orb. However, if an ally activates the synergy, ALL nearby allies will have their resources restored!

Nobody shouts anymore for "Shards." All I hear is: "Orbs!"

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  • Voxicity
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    I thought Orb also only returns resources for the ally who activates it, as to bring it in line with spear shards? Or am I missing something?
  • joaaocaampos
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    You are missing something. :)
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  • laksikus
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    I think orbs only restore ress for 1 ally
  • Voxicity
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    joaaocaampos wrote: »
    You are missing something. :)

    .
    Edited by Voxicity on June 26, 2017 10:02AM
  • Draqone
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    Orbs no longer restore AoE resources, so shards > orbs.

    That said I still keep both since orbs are better for moving and/or large groups since they have clearer visuals and you can have more then 1 orb out at a time.
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Project a globe of regeneration that floats forward, restoring 0 Health to nearby allies.
    An ally can also activate the Healing Combustion synergy, healing themselves for 0 and restoring 0 Magicka over 10 seconds, plus additional Magicka based on number of allies healed.
    New Effect:
    Heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

    ^From ESOhead's description of Energy Orb. I haven't tested it and since servers are down - I can't test it at the moment either.
    But it would make sense I guess - why else would you bother choosing this morph. Energy orb <3
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  • joaaocaampos
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    Draqone wrote: »
    Orbs no longer restore AoE resources.

    Did you read the ability (synergy)? Furthermore, this has already been tested. I've already used Energy Orb, for another player to activate the synergy, while another player has his resources restored while testing the DPS (on the dummy).
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  • joaaocaampos
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    Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
    From ESOhead's description of Energy Orb.

    Most of the descriptions are not up to version 3.0.5 of the ability.

    This is the Patch Note description: "The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka to the synergy-user, whichever resource pool is larger. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Spear Shards synergy."

    But the ability description says otherwise. And the effect too.
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  • SilverWF
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    From tank perspective - I would prefer Luminous Shards. Because it remains at place for much longer.
    From healer perspective - I prefer Healing Orb. Because it provides just a sh*tton of healing in the huge area.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    joaaocaampos wrote: »
    Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
    From ESOhead's description of Energy Orb.

    Most of the descriptions are not up to version 3.0.5 of the ability.

    This is the Patch Note description: "The synergy from this ability and its morphs now restore Stamina or Magicka to the synergy-user, whichever resource pool is larger. The amount restored is now based on your character level instead of your Max Resource. The synergy also has a shared cooldown with the Spear Shards synergy."

    But the ability description says otherwise. And the effect too.

    If Orb still restores resources to more than one ally, then it's a bug, it is not supposed to restore resources to more than one person.
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
    Project a globe of regeneration that floats forward, restoring 0 Health to nearby allies.
    An ally can also activate the Healing Combustion synergy, healing themselves for 0 and restoring 0 Magicka over 10 seconds, plus additional Magicka based on number of allies healed.
    New Effect:
    Heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

    ^From ESOhead's description of Energy Orb. I haven't tested it and since servers are down - I can't test it at the moment either.
    But it would make sense I guess - why else would you bother choosing this morph. Energy orb <3

    So sure of yourself and you use the worst updated eso wiki on the internet. Always use uesp for your elder scrolls information needs. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Necrotic_Orb
  • laksikus
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    I just tested it necrotic orb, and it doesnt restore magicka to me when my ally uses the synergy.
  • flizomica
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    Orbs are supposed to only restore resources to one person, like shards
  • ofSunhold
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    No it's not. Ask your tank if he'd like something that gives him just stam or mag, or if he'd like something that restores both.

    Orbs give resource return to the one who activates the synergy, and only him, just like shards does. (Admittedly I haven't checked this personally since the second-to-last iteration of the PTS, but that's what they said and that's what it did.)

    Anyway, if you have people asking for orbs instead of shards then make that change if you want and find out for yourself if you like it better or it seems more effective. That's the step before making this thread btw.

    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • joaaocaampos
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    laksikus wrote: »
    I just tested it necrotic orb, and it doesnt restore magicka to me when my ally uses the synergy.

    "Allies" is not the same as "myself and the allies"
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  • Draqone
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    I'll repeat:

    ORBS NO LONGER RESTORE AOE RESOURCES.

    Go test it properly.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    joaaocaampos wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    I just tested it necrotic orb, and it doesnt restore magicka to me when my ally uses the synergy.

    "Allies" is not the same as "myself and the allies"

    So orb restores resources to only one person, is that correct?
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  • Cadbury
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    It's times like this when video documentation helps.
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  • idk
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    Someone needs to start reading parts of the match notes that affect him.
  • Flameheart
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    hmsdragonfly wrote: »
    joaaocaampos wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    I just tested it necrotic orb, and it doesnt restore magicka to me when my ally uses the synergy.

    "Allies" is not the same as "myself and the allies"

    So orb restores resources to only one person, is that correct?

    Yes, the one that uses the synergy and only that ressource that has the higher maximum.
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  • Illurian
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    joaaocaampos wrote: »
    You are missing something. :)

    Lmao you don't get to throw shade when you are the one that is misinformed.
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