Blood thirst vs blood craze

zeus1gdsm

Stamina nb. Bow/dw
Have vigor.

But I would like a hot. Which is better hot?

kylewwefan

Vigor is a hot.

zeus1gdsm

Oh. So it is lol..

Chilly-McFreeze

PvE? I would go with both and get rid of vigor, but it seems that's not what you have in mind.

Do you want a spam or a DoT? That is the deciding factor. If it's only about the heel you should mind that Bloodcraze is a apply-any-forget (at least for 9 seconds) while the spammed Bloodthirst only heals you on the final impact.

kylewwefan

Blood craze is also hot, but thirst is bigger burst heal at the end. I would use all the healing morphs until you get real comfortable you can drop one. The little bit of extra damage isn't that significant, but I'm not the best player in the world so IDK?

Illurian

Don't you use Leeching Strikes? As long as you are weaving, it practically acts as a HoT.

zeus1gdsm

I have sap essence on for weapon damage and heal. But heal is so weak.
Maybe I'll try blood craze as an opener.

Nb has no burst heal that I can see. Flurry damage is way better morphed to rapid. Compared to thirst.

zeus1gdsm

And yes pve

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

zeus1gdsm wrote: »

I have sap essence on for weapon damage and heal. But heal is so weak.
Maybe I'll try blood craze as an opener.

Nb has no burst heal that I can see. Flurry damage is way better morphed to rapid. Compared to thirst.

Way better? Not really, I get around 9-11k hits with my blood thirst on nb, around the same on with my sorc with rapid.

All that aside, if you need a brust heal with a NB, you are nightblading wrong, nbs are not a stand and fight class, if you want that, you use dks or temps, nbs hit and run. And for that style of play, the heals they have are fine.

Illurian

zeus1gdsm wrote: »

I have sap essence on for weapon damage and heal. But heal is so weak.
Maybe I'll try blood craze as an opener.

Nb has no burst heal that I can see. Flurry damage is way better morphed to rapid. Compared to thirst.

Sap Essence is a magicka skill, so it makes sense that both its damage and healing is extremely weak on a stamina build.

Look up Leeching Strikes. Every time you heavy/light attack, you restore some stamina and health, and also restore both when the buff wears off. Assuming you are weaving, you will be restoring stamina/health with every skill, so it practically acts as a HoT.

Dracindo

Being a stamblade myself, I use Leeching strikes for healing and light attack weave as much as possible in dire situations. The heal per light/heavy attack for me is 1.8K health, which is about 10% of max buffed health. I need 1 second for 1 round of LA -> Skill (-> Block). So practically, I heal 10% every seconds I can succesfully hit a Light attack. And I also heal about 100 stamina with every LA/HA, and when the buff expires, I get a stamina refund of more than 4k. And the skill only costs about 1K stamina.

If I need more healing, I can use trash health potions, but that's usually for emergencies. Should I find that I need more healing in my skill bar, I would take Vigor, and upgrade to resolving vigor. Though two slots for healing sounds a bit overboard, now that I think of it...

Vapirko

For PvE bloodthirst, for PvP bloodcraze, just my opinion.

zeus1gdsm

Alright ill remorse to blood thirst.

I used leeching up until morrowwind.. My nb is my least played character and my understanding was leeching wasn't the greatest anymore so I dropped it in favor of sap essence for major brutality buffs.

Illurian

zeus1gdsm wrote: »

Alright ill remorse to blood thirst.

I used leeching up until morrowwind.. My nb is my least played character and my understanding was leeching wasn't the greatest anymore so I dropped it in favor of sap essence for major brutality buffs.

Even so, you are using the wrong morph. Sap Essence gives it magicka scaling and also provides Major Sorcery, which is entirely useless for Stamina Builds.

Power Extraction (the stamina morph) also provides Major Brutality and deals much higher damage as you are stamina.

Try Leeching Strikes before you write it off.

zeus1gdsm

Right I'll morph sap essence back to stam