[Confirmed] Transmog is being worked on

ChuckyPayne

It is a good thing, and another oportunity make ESO+ more valueable. Almost 100% that system won't be ingame free.

Avalon

I think best way would have an area 'Transmogrification' under the appearance area, separate from costumes, that has a list exactly like our inventory. In your actual inventory, you highlight an item, select options like you would for enchanting, charging, or changing style to imperial, except add the option for transmogrify. Once you do that, it writes that item into the Transmogrification area in appearance. Basically, each slot acts as its own individual costume piece.

Rev Rielle

"What this means is that soon™ you’ll be able to take an item whose looks you like, and add those looks to an item whose stats you prefer."

From this I understand that we will have two items in our possession: We combine them together via some mechanism (crafting station/Crown Store Stone/something) and we get to choose the stats of one and the look of another. Leaving us with one item.

If so, it sounds very much like how the Guild Wars 2 early transmorph system was, which isn't a bad thing.

I really hope - as others have said - they don't put any limitations on it. Such as Monster items or Trial items being excluded from the system. Time will tell.

HEXENWOLF

Recremen wrote: »

PRAISE TALOS

(I just hope it's set up like the dye system with a one-time cost and then infinite use across characters on the account)

((and also that I can make something look anywhere from light to medium to heavy without trouble since I can do that anyway now with costumes, but worse))

PRAISE MOLAG BAL. [Fixed]

In all seriousness though, its about time! This is a change I am happy to wait for.

slumber_sandb16_ESO

HEXENWOLF wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

PRAISE TALOS

(I just hope it's set up like the dye system with a one-time cost and then infinite use across characters on the account)

((and also that I can make something look anywhere from light to medium to heavy without trouble since I can do that anyway now with costumes, but worse))

PRAISE MOLAG BAL. [Fixed]

In all seriousness though, its about time! This is a change I am happy to wait for.

PRAISE MALACATH. [Double Fixed]

old_mufasa

Avalon wrote: »

I think best way would have an area 'Transmogrification' under the appearance area, separate from costumes, that has a list exactly like our inventory. In your actual inventory, you highlight an item, select options like you would for enchanting, charging, or changing style to imperial, except add the option for transmogrify. Once you do that, it writes that item into the Transmogrification area in appearance. Basically, each slot acts as its own individual costume piece.

Ya this would be the best way to do it.. its much like how lotro does it and it doesn't destroy any item it just has a 2nd costume sheet that you can click on to have those items appear on your character...

The last thing I want is the crown store to get involved... this should be something that everyone can do with in game items and gold.. not another cash grab...

DoccEff

Not easy to add??? Convert to imperial style has been there since release, and Morag Tong converting has been introduced with Morrowind. I bet they are just looking for the best way to make money with this. Stop fooling us Zos.

TheValar85

Azyle1 wrote: »

Won't this system make motifs useless for the most part?

Nope because in mog system example in wow: if you want to have a style armor pice to look like as the style your armor want to look like example Daedra helm you need that style and you have to craft that item to unlock in the mog database to transmog your uggly looking helm the style of daedra. According to WOW.
If you cnat understand a word that i have said just google WOW Transmog system, and chek some videos too.

Ihatenightblades

Credit to lord vivec

TheValar85

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Let's predict how this will play out:

Step 1, you buy a "transmog stone" from the crown store for 3k, then apply it to the item you want to transmog, then the transaction has a change of randomly changing to another piece of armor in your inventory.

definetly no.
Transmog should never connected to the crownstore.

khele23eb17_ESO

Azyle1 wrote: »

Won't this system make motifs useless for the most part?

Not if its based on you having the motifs unlocked.

As for my reaction... fantastic news! Theres a big 'but' however. Firstly it will take a long while before we see this and secondly it might be a cash grab more than a game feature. Im also worried theyll screw things up by excluding certain weapons/sets from being transmogrifiable.

MCBIZZLE300

Id love to change my vma staves, they look like ***.

zaria

quadraxis666 wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Few things to say on this.

First- Credit to ZOS where credit is due. They are implementing a feature that needs to be implemented, and will greatly improve the game. It can't be here fast enough.

That said. I will bet you right now they will screw it up. I will bet you.

It either won't work in the beginning, or will delete out your armor or some crap.

And I haven't read the full details on it so this may already be confirmed, but I will bet it will be charged for or they will attempt to monetize it in some way.

In addition to that, there may be another catch such as "only works with certain sets", or "only 'x' amount of transmogrifications allowed per day".

Who knows with these people. lol

Yeah agree with this guy, unquestionably they will Zos this up (that's bad) it'll be you need a gazillion tempers/crowns some other bs, there'll be catches and caveats galore. Zos if you're paying attention (still doubtful) this is how players want this to work - Right click > Convert gear to X style (obviously you must know the style motif so motifs don't become useless), in exactly the same way players who own the imperial edition can convert anything to imperial style. That simple. Please get this right.

its basically two ways to do this, either you use template gear, as long as it fit the same slot or same weapon type it will work
So you can put in your heavy armor chest and use the prisoner robe from coldharbor as template.
Second is more limited here you select armor / weapon style only so you would not be able to use other armor types or low level gear
Assuming You would also need to know the style like you do for crafting, with templates you can find or buy the templates.

NewBlacksmurf

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

Yeah, I laughed too.

I didn't really understand this part: This is different than the current “motif” system crafters use to make items look the way they want, in so much that it allows a user total control over their stats and their looks.

you already have a TRANSMOG system ready to go... it's called a COSTUME. ZOS might easily be able to create a "template' by which a player could save the appearance of any actual worn items, to a "custom" costume that could be accessed like any other costume (maybe even named by the player).

Maybe I'm cynical, but I suspect much of the feet dragging on this directly relates to crown store sales. If nothing else they could sell custom costume slots, but in any event they'd have to step up their game with some of the crappy costumes they sell in the stores.

If it's not a crafting feature, it seems likely a pay per use feature which isn't of interest to me.
Use what exists and let ppl craft pieces into one custom disguise rather than looking into how to charge players.

Tan9oSuccka

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

Yeah, I laughed too.

I didn't really understand this part: This is different than the current “motif” system crafters use to make items look the way they want, in so much that it allows a user total control over their stats and their looks.

you already have a TRANSMOG system ready to go... it's called a COSTUME. ZOS might easily be able to create a "template' by which a player could save the appearance of any actual worn items, to a "custom" costume that could be accessed like any other costume (maybe even named by the player).

Maybe I'm cynical, but I suspect much of the feet dragging on this directly relates to crown store sales. If nothing else they could sell custom costume slots, but in any event they'd have to step up their game with some of the crappy costumes they sell in the stores.

Truth with this post.

Costumes are too expensive, and have been fairly underwhelming.

Elsonso

Blanco wrote: »

Few things to say on this.

First- Credit to ZOS where credit is due. They are implementing a feature that needs to be implemented, and will greatly improve the game. It can't be here fast enough.

That said. I will bet you right now they will screw it up. I will bet you.

It either won't work in the beginning, or will delete out your armor or some crap.

And I haven't read the full details on it so this may already be confirmed, but I will bet it will be charged for or they will attempt to monetize it in some way.

In addition to that, there may be another catch such as "only works with certain sets", or "only 'x' amount of transmogrifications allowed per day".

Who knows with these people. lol

It is a given that there will be bugs. Honestly, I expect that when it launches, the bugs will be edge cases, rather than mainstream.

What I do wish that ZOS would do is get some of the Transmog fans into a conference call and tell them what is being left on the cutting room floor. Before it is too late to change things. If they do not do this, the chances are pretty good that it will be a wonderful amount of work that does not meet expectations.

As for monetization, it will be interesting what they come up with. My base thought is that they will start evil and work backwards until they think they have something that people will accept, and pay for. It might be ESO Plus only. It might require a token from the Crown Store. I am going to guess that if they have restrictions, like you can only convert to a known motif, that Crown Store will bypass that.

My thoughts on other subjects...

1. I expect transmogrified gear will be bound. ZOS likes bondage.
2. It will not significantly involve crafting skill. I think the systems lead that championed crafting has left the building, or is gagged and tied up in the basement. For the last year, crafting has been sidelined or minimized at almost every opportunity. Proc sets. Furniture. Soon, transmog.


What I want them to do is make transmog done in the crafting interface on a "style copy" tab. Any gear item that you can deconstruct can be used. You pick the item you want to use as the "style" and the item you want to receive that style, and out pops the second item looking like the first item. I would suggest a new passive under each of the three equipment skills to unlock this. Failure should not destroy anything. It would also be interesting if there was an item that was required each time, like a "transmogrification crystal". These could be found in the world, purchased in the Crown Store, or Guild Store. (Edit: maybe only available from Merchants for lots of gold, or the Crown Store for Crowns)

Zaldan

well considering less than 6 months ago devs stated transmog system was too difficult and no plans to start working on it doubt anything will happen before this time next year

Lavennin

It's so awesome! Finally I no longer need to wear Julianos! I can wear worms! Woot! Hyped!

MattT1988

Cool. As long as they make it a crafting perk instead of flogging it on the crown store. If it's the latter, I'm not interested.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Zaldan wrote: »

well considering less than 6 months ago devs stated transmog system was too difficult and no plans to start working on it doubt anything will happen before this time next year

Things have changed! Now they have talked about it. Agreed it is complicated, and continue to talk about it! That means next week sometime right!?

Phica_Lovic

Lavennin wrote: »

It's so awesome! Finally I no longer need to wear Julianos! I can wear worms! Woot! Hyped!

are you telling me you settled for Julianos cuz of the look?

aisriyth_ESO

Azyle1 wrote: »

Won't this system make motifs useless for the most part?

Probably the complete opposite in regards to rare motifs.

I am imagining it will be tied to crafting skill and possibly even open ended enough that you can swap someones style to another style that you know in a trade menu.

Sotha_Sil

About time ! That is one of the features I have been waiting for so long. Hopefully it will be implemented before next year.

hamburgerler76

I wouldn't hold my breath, they also said they where working on a system so you could save preset builds. To help you swap between gear and skills when switching from dps to tank and so on. Never gave an eta just said we wanna do it right so no eta yet that was months ago nothing since sounds a lot like this.

khele23eb17_ESO

Zaldan wrote: »

well considering less than 6 months ago devs stated transmog system was too difficult and no plans to start working on it doubt anything will happen before this time next year

Unless the suits in charge came to the conclusion money can be made off this.

Cryptical

DoccEff wrote: »

Not easy to add??? Convert to imperial style has been there since release, and Morag Tong converting has been introduced with Morrowind. I bet they are just looking for the best way to make money with this. Stop fooling us Zos.

It's much more complicated than that.

Take a dropped staff, convert to what? A looong list of styles. And which sub-category? A secondary list of level ranges. Because remember, items made with maple/jute/rawhide look different than the exact same item made with yew/cotton/hide, etc.

It rapidly becomes something quite unwieldy in the interface, and has to be made to play nice on the console as well.

Additionally, the existing conversion mechanism is tied into accessing your real-money purchase history to determine if you are permitted to perform that action. As in, you can't convert to imperial if you haven't purchased the imperial upgrade, etc. You can't simply hijack that mechanism for this other transmog without overhauling it to try and avoid creating bugs in that existing code. Players without a clue would unreasonably whine and howl about Zeni breaking that conversion.

Go actually code something and then come back to try and second guess their plan.

MarkusLiberty

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

Lavennin wrote: »

It's so awesome! Finally I no longer need to wear Julianos! I can wear worms! Woot! Hyped!

are you telling me you settled for Julianos cuz of the look?

Him and many others

zaria

MarkusLiberty wrote: »

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

Lavennin wrote: »

It's so awesome! Finally I no longer need to wear Julianos! I can wear worms! Woot! Hyped!

are you telling me you settled for Julianos cuz of the look?

Him and many others

Problem with dropped sets is the weapons. Common solution is one dropped for jewelry and one crafted for weapons.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

TheValar85 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Let's predict how this will play out:

Step 1, you buy a "transmog stone" from the crown store for 3k, then apply it to the item you want to transmog, then the transaction has a change of randomly changing to another piece of armor in your inventory.

definetly no.
Transmog should never connected to the crownstore.

and yet we both know it will be. Even if the community is 100% against it. Because community good will does not matter to ZOS.

TheNuminous1

Recremen wrote: »

PRAISE TALOS

I'm pretty sure he isn't born yet.