What is the fastest way for a solo player to make 10k ?

Stannum

Before CP 160 questing, killing mobs and selling loot.

After CP 160 killing mobs while farming chests (in zones where hight demand sets drops) and mats. If yiu re lucky you can even get 50-300k for one item with good trait.

Betsararie

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Perhaps a 4 man dungeon that is especially good? (they are instanced so no competition if that's your concern)

Any of them. It doesn't matter.

The strategy:

1) loot (literally) everything
2) sell all intricates in guild store for >200 each. Sell all glyphs in guild store for ~100.
3) deconstruct purple items you don't need
4) sell everything else to a merchant

Rinse and repeat. Be sure to do the random dailies and after that, repeat the aforementioned steps.

I'm not saying it's a good way to make gold, but it's better than stealing. Stealing is such an overrated bad way to make gold.

this literally requires you to be able to solo 4 man dungeons (contrary to popular belief, no its not something everyone can do). and/or pug.

stealing is the easiest, most reliable method of quick 10k that can be done on character any level and any skill level. and you don't have to get caught by stealing on already mentioned 2 ships at the docks of daggerfall, because there is no one there to catch you.

Just pug them. I have a tank so I would probably hop on that, instaqueue some dungeons, and sell everything. That is 10k way faster than stealing. And it would actually be enjoyable.

Pair that with doing all writs on all chars, along with the dailies. You have 10k gold way faster than stealing and you just actually played the game, instead of performing the extremely tedious task of stealing.

diabolick90

Just go and kill mobs, loot all and sell to merchant full inventory = 6/7k gold
Gather plants, ore, wood and sell them to guild store.
Making gold in this game its easy

Linaleah

Blanco wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Perhaps a 4 man dungeon that is especially good? (they are instanced so no competition if that's your concern)

Any of them. It doesn't matter.

The strategy:

1) loot (literally) everything
2) sell all intricates in guild store for >200 each. Sell all glyphs in guild store for ~100.
3) deconstruct purple items you don't need
4) sell everything else to a merchant

Rinse and repeat. Be sure to do the random dailies and after that, repeat the aforementioned steps.

I'm not saying it's a good way to make gold, but it's better than stealing. Stealing is such an overrated bad way to make gold.

this literally requires you to be able to solo 4 man dungeons (contrary to popular belief, no its not something everyone can do). and/or pug.

stealing is the easiest, most reliable method of quick 10k that can be done on character any level and any skill level. and you don't have to get caught by stealing on already mentioned 2 ships at the docks of daggerfall, because there is no one there to catch you.

Just pug them. I have a tank so I would probably hop on that, instaqueue some dungeons, and sell everything. That is 10k way faster than stealing. And it would actually be enjoyable.

Pair that with doing all writs on all chars, along with the dailies. You have 10k gold way faster than stealing and you just actually played the game, instead of performing the extremely tedious task of stealing.

its not tedious when done in areas where you don't even have to stealth. doing writs on all characters (which I do btw) assumes you have multiple characters. its only genuinely profitable at high level anyways, as gold you get per turn in on a lowbie is MUCH lower and you still need to get the mats to do those writs with. which you either spend time farming, or spend gold buying - which cuts down the profit and increases time spent. pugging can be a hit or miss. plenty of threads here with people sharing their pug horror stories (and oh yeah, tanking unless you genuinely enjoy tanking? is NOT fun. and anything else doesn't get you an insta queue).

looting and selling everything while pugging also most likely requires already unlocked bags either maxed or close to it, or you will run out of space very quickly and unless you or someone in your group has banker/merchant - you are no SoL on looting. especially if you are newer to the game and may not have anywhere near all the bag slots open. daily delves are nice once you unlock all the locations to get to them faster, but even they take at least 15 minutes or more, depending on a size of the delve and your loading screen. other dailies can also be hit or miss depending. stealing is THE easiest, most reliable and for smaller sums of gold like 10k? QUICKEST method.

Mix

I am going to guess from the amount that you are a new player trying to get a horse!

As a brand new player your best bet is to:

1. steal from containers (as said above, ships are a great source). Crates/sacks usually have prov mats but can contain white treasure (40g ea), green treasure (100g ea) or above. On a low level character you have a lower chance to steal higher quality items. The fence limit to start is 40 items a day to sell (and 40 to launder - pay to remove the stolen tag so you can trade/bank the item).

2. If you have the Dark Brotherhood DLC do the first bit of the quest to unlock Blade of Woe. This can be very helpful when stealing, just stab the lone NPC, take their loot and steal everything in their house!

3. Quest and Kill and Loot everything from Point A to B. There are vendors wandering on the roads you can sell things to when inventory full. All that junk adds up fast.

4. Do NOT repair your gear. Replace it. You level so fast repairs are stupidly expensive vs. the usefulness of your gear (unless you have a custom set crafted - but even then you might outlevel before it breaks completely!)

5. Do NOT pay to teleport. I see a lot of new players make this mistake. Porting from a wayshrine to a wayshrine is free. Porting to your House, Guildmates, Party Members or Friends is free. You should never have to pay to port:)

6. Raw mats, alchemy plants sell quite well. If you have a trade guild already you can post them, if not you are stuck selling them in /zone and that may or may not be enjoyable for you (I hate selling in zone). Watch out for players buying in bulk - they are usually undercutting the price and reselling the mats at their going rate.

7. If selling items it is a good idea to know what is worth selling and what to sell it for. If in a guild people may price-check for you - but ask too much and they may find you annoying. Tamriel Trade Centre is a great addon for seeing what items are listed, how many and how much they are listed for. If something has "no data" it is either very new or garbage no one sells.

8. Crafting writs are great IF you have the mats on hand, but as low level writs require you to craft a lot of items it may be better to sell the raw iron ore, raw maple, raw jute rather than refine it and do the writs.

Happy Adventuring!

Yarlenzey

Do the merchant chests in Dhalmora mall.

One hour, no other players and no bounty should make 10K, once the blues start dropping.
Ever better if you get a purple (or two).

Otherwise, pickpocket foyen docks. Assumes you have the right passives...

Prof_Bawbag

Dracindo wrote: »

Following options are based of the fact that you are CP 160.

I make 10k within an hour, running certain public dungeons. Though it seems very overcrowded nowadays. Must be because those exams are over...
Anyway, Vile Manse is the best, so long as it isn't over crowded. I'm going to another dungeon if it is (not sharing it though, I want a large house someday).

Another way is to simply farm raw crafting materials and sell them to players in guild stores. One day of farming should get you at least 1 stack of raw silk, ore and wood.

Options if you are NOT at CP 160 yet, or even just started:

Stealing helps. Do you daily crafting writs.
And most importantly: Quest, quest, quest. Get gold, levels, some skillpoints and equipment. If the gear you get is useless, either research or deconstruct it.

But you shouldn't worry about gold if you aren't CP 160 yet. Level up and get some decent gear. It's easier for a guy at CP 630 to earn 100K in a day, while a lv 5 guy could spend a month gathering that much gold.

Yeah, basically anywhere that has Imperials, folks. The public dungeon in Malabal Tor is another place moving with fast respawning Imperials. Plus the boss drops can be very lucrative if you hit the jackpot.

No idea why people keep this *** secret. There's more than enough to go around. Grouping also helps and it doesn't really matter if you get a hit in or not, you still get the gold drop.

Doing top tier writs on 2 toons nets you around 8k within minutes. There's a host of real easy ways to make a killing once you're CP160 or have alchemy and provisioning maxed.

zaria

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

Stealing is actually quite profitable I have heard

IMO, it's not.

Stealing is the most overrated way of making money in this entire game. You can make waayy more money in certain overland locations steamrolling them, looting, and selling it. You can also make more from 4 man dungeons.

Additionally, pretty much any of the other common methods will make more than stealing.

Stealing sucks. lol

Yes stealing sucks, but you can do it almost anywhere and it can provide a steady stream of gold. That is a something that can help the OP who asked the question on how to make money -- while perhaps the best way to farm gold, it is easily understood and reliable.

However, with due respect, you state nothing to help the OP by stating:

You can make waayy more money in certain overland locations steamrolling them, looting, and selling it. You can also make more from 4 man dungeons.

Why not contribute to the thread and the larger community by indicating locations you refer to? Perhaps a 4 man dungeon that is especially good? (they are instanced so no competition if that's your concern).

This, stealing can be done with no skill at level 1 and has an minimum income, items for guild store is an bonus.
Farming motifs and stuff in Morrowind is hard as level 1, its also very crowded
Farming overland sets pays more but require cp160 and you need the random good drops.
Doing perfect heist and selling the motifs is an good way to make 3K for each 7 minute run but require gear and some skill so I don't recommend it for all.

Tomg999

Blanco wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

Stealing is actually quite profitable I have heard

IMO, it's not.

Stealing is the most overrated way of making money in this entire game. You can make waayy more money in certain overland locations steamrolling them, looting, and selling it. You can also make more from 4 man dungeons.

Additionally, pretty much any of the other common methods will make more than stealing.

Stealing sucks. lol

Stealing is good only if you have a prepared character, in which case it can be quite good. But that takes time and effort to get your char ready.
If you have a stealth char with all the right equipment and can smash locks, you are nearly invisible and can quickly rob every chest in a town (even with NPCs standing next to them), making a lot of gold quickly. it's fun too.

But for the avg character I concur, it is not the most efficient way to make gold.

Betsararie

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Perhaps a 4 man dungeon that is especially good? (they are instanced so no competition if that's your concern)

Any of them. It doesn't matter.

The strategy:

1) loot (literally) everything
2) sell all intricates in guild store for >200 each. Sell all glyphs in guild store for ~100.
3) deconstruct purple items you don't need
4) sell everything else to a merchant

Rinse and repeat. Be sure to do the random dailies and after that, repeat the aforementioned steps.

I'm not saying it's a good way to make gold, but it's better than stealing. Stealing is such an overrated bad way to make gold.

this literally requires you to be able to solo 4 man dungeons (contrary to popular belief, no its not something everyone can do). and/or pug.

stealing is the easiest, most reliable method of quick 10k that can be done on character any level and any skill level. and you don't have to get caught by stealing on already mentioned 2 ships at the docks of daggerfall, because there is no one there to catch you.

Just pug them. I have a tank so I would probably hop on that, instaqueue some dungeons, and sell everything. That is 10k way faster than stealing. And it would actually be enjoyable.

Pair that with doing all writs on all chars, along with the dailies. You have 10k gold way faster than stealing and you just actually played the game, instead of performing the extremely tedious task of stealing.

its not tedious when done in areas where you don't even have to stealth. doing writs on all characters (which I do btw) assumes you have multiple characters. its only genuinely profitable at high level anyways, as gold you get per turn in on a lowbie is MUCH lower and you still need to get the mats to do those writs with. which you either spend time farming, or spend gold buying - which cuts down the profit and increases time spent. pugging can be a hit or miss. plenty of threads here with people sharing their pug horror stories (and oh yeah, tanking unless you genuinely enjoy tanking? is NOT fun. and anything else doesn't get you an insta queue).

looting and selling everything while pugging also most likely requires already unlocked bags either maxed or close to it, or you will run out of space very quickly and unless you or someone in your group has banker/merchant - you are no SoL on looting. especially if you are newer to the game and may not have anywhere near all the bag slots open. daily delves are nice once you unlock all the locations to get to them faster, but even they take at least 15 minutes or more, depending on a size of the delve and your loading screen. other dailies can also be hit or miss depending. stealing is THE easiest, most reliable and for smaller sums of gold like 10k? QUICKEST method.

lol'd.

Intricates sell for 200 a piece in the guild store and they sell quick. Glyphs sell for roughly 100 a piece.

From one single dungeon run say you get 5 intricates and 3 glyphs, which is likely the minimal amount you will get.

That is 1300 right there, not counting all the ornates you get, and set pieces you can sell for 50 a piece.

Writs get you 600 per writ on a new char. 500 if you buy the style pieces from the merchants.

Mix that in with dailies and yes, I believe that is much faster than stealing which also brings with it a chance of getting caught and losing all of your items.

Stealing is so massively overrated. You continue stealing, I'll continue to play the game and make more gold through other means.

NewBlacksmurf

Find a place to kill stuff where the NPC drops a lot of looot and sale everything. (Regardless of your level)

Google any grind location and go there with one of the overpriced crown merchant assistant.

I won't name specific locations but pay attn to the loot and just kill and loot all. Sale all and keep going. Ideally upgrade your inventory to over 120

phileunderx2

I'm assuming the op is new and a low level. I would recommend going killing lots of things and vendoring everything that has value. Also farm wood cloth and metal refine and vendor. Stealing has limits and is risky but it doesn't hurt to do it as ledgerman has some good perks. And as you get higher level you can steal better stuff.

Linaleah

Blanco wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Perhaps a 4 man dungeon that is especially good? (they are instanced so no competition if that's your concern)

Any of them. It doesn't matter.

The strategy:

1) loot (literally) everything
2) sell all intricates in guild store for >200 each. Sell all glyphs in guild store for ~100.
3) deconstruct purple items you don't need
4) sell everything else to a merchant

Rinse and repeat. Be sure to do the random dailies and after that, repeat the aforementioned steps.

I'm not saying it's a good way to make gold, but it's better than stealing. Stealing is such an overrated bad way to make gold.

this literally requires you to be able to solo 4 man dungeons (contrary to popular belief, no its not something everyone can do). and/or pug.

stealing is the easiest, most reliable method of quick 10k that can be done on character any level and any skill level. and you don't have to get caught by stealing on already mentioned 2 ships at the docks of daggerfall, because there is no one there to catch you.

Just pug them. I have a tank so I would probably hop on that, instaqueue some dungeons, and sell everything. That is 10k way faster than stealing. And it would actually be enjoyable.

Pair that with doing all writs on all chars, along with the dailies. You have 10k gold way faster than stealing and you just actually played the game, instead of performing the extremely tedious task of stealing.

its not tedious when done in areas where you don't even have to stealth. doing writs on all characters (which I do btw) assumes you have multiple characters. its only genuinely profitable at high level anyways, as gold you get per turn in on a lowbie is MUCH lower and you still need to get the mats to do those writs with. which you either spend time farming, or spend gold buying - which cuts down the profit and increases time spent. pugging can be a hit or miss. plenty of threads here with people sharing their pug horror stories (and oh yeah, tanking unless you genuinely enjoy tanking? is NOT fun. and anything else doesn't get you an insta queue).

looting and selling everything while pugging also most likely requires already unlocked bags either maxed or close to it, or you will run out of space very quickly and unless you or someone in your group has banker/merchant - you are no SoL on looting. especially if you are newer to the game and may not have anywhere near all the bag slots open. daily delves are nice once you unlock all the locations to get to them faster, but even they take at least 15 minutes or more, depending on a size of the delve and your loading screen. other dailies can also be hit or miss depending. stealing is THE easiest, most reliable and for smaller sums of gold like 10k? QUICKEST method.

lol'd.

Intricates sell for 200 a piece in the guild store and they sell quick. Glyphs sell for roughly 100 a piece.

From one single dungeon run say you get 5 intricates and 3 glyphs, which is likely the minimal amount you will get.

That is 1300 right there, not counting all the ornates you get, and set pieces you can sell for 50 a piece.

Writs get you 600 per writ on a new char. 500 if you buy the style pieces from the merchants.

Mix that in with dailies and yes, I believe that is much faster than stealing which also brings with it a chance of getting caught and losing all of your items.

Stealing is so massively overrated. You continue stealing, I'll continue to play the game and make more gold through other means.

when was the last time you did writs on a new character?? 600 is at max level, you get about a third of that on a new character and like i also said - mats costs. you either go farm or you buy from guild stores. and i don't mean style mats - actual mats. moreover, unless you are maxed at crafting/level - intricates you are getting will NOT be selling for 200 gold each, not then they are homespun, iron etc. and neither will low level glyphs.

not every trade guild is created equal. speaking from experience, even with ttc - location matters. dungeon run takes time can be unfun depending on your luck with a group, can take time just to GET a group

and again.

there

is
no
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of getting caught in daggerfall ships as they are EMPTY OF NPC's

P.S. i personaly don't make gold through stealing anymore - i may steal as a crime of opportunity, or if I'm farming for a specific recipes, but that's about it. but I've also been playing long enough to not need help with quick 10k gold - early on? stealing was absolutely invaluable and the BEST method as I was learning the game. generally players who ask that question? are NOT maxed level (just questing or grinding to max level will get you more then that with or without stealing), do NOT have CP, do NOT have a stock of crafting materials ready to go for the daily crafting writs, etc etc.

Belidos

Not sure why 10k gold and farming are in the same topic, 10k isn't a lot, an hour or two running delves and i usually make that in loot.

Fingolfinn01

If you go the thief's guild route, it takes a while to get the perks, and establish a good thief's run. However once equipped with these skills you can make 10k within 30mins. More once you wrk out a good location for your thieving. And thats just gold, it doesn't include all the other stuff like, recipes, motifs, and furnishing patterns.

PlagueSD

vpy wrote: »

I am looking for ideas to make 10k gold in the game.
Even if it is a bit long I am fine as long as it remains a steady source of income.
Any ideas mates ?

Steal everything that's not bolted down. I can make that easy just in stealing and fencing alone. It helps to have points in haggling (thieve's guild) for the 10% sell bonus. You should also put some points into trafficer (legerdemain) which allows you to fence more items/day. (max is 140.)

Focus on fencing green and above items if you're approaching the item cap.

theher0not

Level up the thief skill line and max out pick pocket chance and increased fence.

Then spend a few hours pick pocketing people (Note: only fence items that are green or higher in rarity. Common items isn't worth it).


Fencing 100 green items that will be 10k without Thieves guild and up to 11k with it.

vamp_emily

vpy wrote: »

I am looking for ideas to make 10k gold in the game.
Even if it is a bit long I am fine as long as it remains a steady source of income.
Any ideas mates ?

I'm not sure what level you are but a few things come to my mind.

1. Coldharbor Zombie Grind - I think if you sell everything you get from drops you can net around 5k per hour 30 minutes.
2. Imperial City - Run around in the districts with blade of woe, then when you get 5k stones go to the merchant in IC and buy 1 Hakeijo. Then in zone chat sell it between 10k - 12k. They sell fast, and it shouldn't take a long time to get 5k stones. Also open every chest you see they have modifs you can sell.
3. Skyreach - have someone take you through sky reach, they have good modifs in there that people will buy.

Danikat

Stealing is my preferred method because it's the most straight-forward.

It can be done almost anywhere (although the ships in Daggerfall are my preferred location), can be done completely solo and I can spend as much or as little time as I want on it and still make some profit - I don't have to commit to spending 4 hours farming when my friends are online, I can just log in whenever and get on with it. You also don't need to be in a guild with a trader or a lot of crafters to make money from it and don't need to worry about current prices or what's popular - you just sell straight to the fence. On top of that it can be done right from level 1, without any special equipment or skills. You don't even need to put skill points into the related lines (although that can make it easier and allow you to sell more).

I'm sure you can make more money teaming up to farm drops from dungeon bosses or spending hours grinding materials to sell via your hardcore trading guild or whatever. But none of that suits the way I play and the time and (lack of) inclination I have to spend farming. Being able to log in, gather up some items and drop them off at the fence does.

BlackSparrow

Linaleah wrote: »

P.S. i personaly don't make gold through stealing anymore - i may steal as a crime of opportunity, or if I'm farming for a specific recipes, but that's about it. but I've also been playing long enough to not need help with quick 10k gold - early on? stealing was absolutely invaluable and the BEST method as I was learning the game. generally players who ask that question? are NOT maxed level (just questing or grinding to max level will get you more then that with or without stealing), do NOT have CP, do NOT have a stock of crafting materials ready to go for the daily crafting writs, etc etc.

Exactly this.

A new player is not going to be at max level, so their loot drops are going to be worth diddly and squat.

A new player is not going to have a trading guild, nor anything worth selling.

A new player is not going to have the experience or gear to speed-run delves and dungeons.

A new player is not going to have a master crafter who can make the good writs, nor the material stockpiles.

I have a lot of respect for people who have found their groove in something highly lucrative, but most of those players have hard-won knowledge of how to work the system and high level characters: two things new players are not going to have. Thieving is a great, easy way to earn gold early in the game, period. Yes, there are better ways later on, but for a quick, easily accessible cash infusion? Legerdemain works great.

vamp_emily

I know some of this info is a little old but it hasn't changed much.

This is a chart a made a while back, and look at the gold I made in 30 minutes at each location. Gold was made by quickly selling dropped items to a vendor in town. I don't think you can do that just by stealing, unless you get lucky.

http://pugzofdaggerfall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/grind-1024x153.png

Also this is a good post but beware your bounty will be very high.
pugzofdaggerfall.com/forum/index.php?/topic/86-make-30-40k-gold-0-2-gold-tempers-with-1-hour-of-work/

BlackSparrow

vamp_emily wrote: »

I know some of this info is a little old but it hasn't changed much.

This is a chart a made a while back, and look at the gold I made in 30 minutes at each location. Gold was made by quickly selling dropped items to a vendor in town. I don't think you can do that just by stealing, unless you get lucky.

http://pugzofdaggerfall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/grind-1024x153.png

5k in 30 minutes? That's about the rate my thief pulls in on a good thief/pickpocketing route, no luck required. The only stipulation is that you only fence green or higher items, and you can make that no problem.

So really, it's a question of which you find less annoying: grinding zombies or grinding legerdemain. XD

wesley41

Not the most fun method but....go fishing. Perfect roe and house decorations pulled from fishing can sell for good money in the guild store. Find a big lake or shore with a lot of nodes and start casting. Not exciting but EASY.

vamp_emily

BlackSparrow wrote: »

I have a lot of respect for people who have found their groove in something highly lucrative, but most of those players have hard-won knowledge of how to work the system and high level characters: two things new players are not going to have. Thieving is a great, easy way to earn gold early in the game, period. Yes, there are better ways later on, but for a quick, easily accessible cash infusion? Legerdemain works great.

I've been around for while, however I play low level characters all the time. Just last week I made 280k gold and all that was made by a level 14 character. It wasn't in 30 minutes, but once I hit level 10 I went to IC and just started grinding stones then I bought 18 Hakeiijo and after I posted in zone, "anyone want to buy some Hakeiijo for 10k each?" I had 3 people wanting to buy everything I had. I sold 18 and then sold another 10 a day later to the same guy.

I guess what I am trying to say, it is not impossible for a low level player to make a lot of gold. You just got to know how to do it.

max_only

A stack of filled soul gems is 6k to a vendor. It's easy to fill soul gems at popular dolmens like Alikr by tagging all the mobs with the soul gem skill.

Jamini

Farming Imperials is an easy 20k/hour minimum (on my low-damage tank).

If you are below cap: Stop caring about money and go quest/level. Pick every flower you see and sell them on guild traders or shouting in a populated zone.

Craiglorn remains a good farm as well for motif pages for all levels.

Nestor

Tannus15 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure prosperous gear is a total waste of time. Someone did the same thing with impen gear and the money saved on repairs was greater than the extra money made on the gold drops.

That test was done with overland mobs in Wrothgar. Not the most mob dense zone in the game, and those mobs only drop a few gold per. The person who did that test and thread stacked the deck in his conclusions favor by selecting just about the worst way to farm mobs for gold.

The Public Dungeons, particularly Vile Manse, Crimson Cove and Razzaks Wheel can drop 100 to 200 gold per mob group. I can farm 5K to 10K gold in the amount of time it takes to fill up my bags, and that does not count the loot I sell.

Vapirko

Farm ancestor silk, a stack of 200 goes for 11-12k right now. Farm spriggans gear, impen and divines armor goes for a 3-12k or so depending, weapons and purple jewelry for a lot more.

BlackSparrow

vamp_emily wrote: »

BlackSparrow wrote: »

I have a lot of respect for people who have found their groove in something highly lucrative, but most of those players have hard-won knowledge of how to work the system and high level characters: two things new players are not going to have. Thieving is a great, easy way to earn gold early in the game, period. Yes, there are better ways later on, but for a quick, easily accessible cash infusion? Legerdemain works great.

I've been around for while, however I play low level characters all the time. Just last week I made 280k gold and all that was made by a level 14 character. It wasn't in 30 minutes, but once I hit level 10 I went to IC and just started grinding stones then I bought 18 Hakeiijo and after I posted in zone, "anyone want to buy some Hakeiijo for 10k each?" I had 3 people wanting to buy everything I had. I sold 18 and then sold another 10 a day later to the same guy.

I guess what I am trying to say, it is not impossible for a low level player to make a lot of gold. You just got to know how to do it.

Which is kind of my point, tbh.

There's a reason I included both low-level characters and a lack of knowledge of the system as why newbies have trouble earning money at early levels. No newbie's going to know what to grind for and what price to sell it for, which is actually more of a problem than just having low character levels.

I think we're kind of agreeing, tbh. Like I said, there are lots of more efficient ways to make money than legerdemain, but legerdemain is easy and accessible for new players (not new characters, because player knowledge is important to finding ways to make bank).

Though @wesley41 makes a good point... for really easy money, fishing for Perfect Roe is hard to beat. XD

Nestor

As for Legerdemain. Stop thinking that you should only pick up Greens or Blues. That only makes sense if your stealing as you go along then fence when you get around to it. To get the most Gold Per Hour do the following:

1. Grab anything White or better. Don't hold out just for Greens and Blues, that is a waste of time. For sure grab the Greens and Blues. Also, grab anything that stacks like Ash or Gnawed Bones, they only take up one slot.
2. Farm Orsinium or the two Ships in Daggerfall near the Wayshrine. Farm until your bags are full, then Fence. If you have left over Fence Capacity, fill that up. There are other places to farm, but these two offer the most containers in the smallest space.
3. Once you max out your daily total, log to a mule and repeat. You can max out 3 to 4 characters daily limit in less than an hour this way. You only need one skill point and L2 in Legerdemain to make this work.

10K gold? Try more like 20K to 30K gold across 4 Alts. In less than an hour.