Best sets for mag sorc?

Cameron991

Alright so I'm gonna run 5 piece shackle breaker what are other sets that I should run? I don't have any netch or necro I see that's really good! But is there another set I should go for or should I farm those (need jewelry)

SoLooney

If you want the best, youre probably gonna have to get your hands on netch for non pet and necro for pet build. darkshade very easy to farm. at least you can buy necro but its expensive, esp the staves if you cant get your hands on infallible aether staves or moondancer staves. you could try running scathings or war maiden, but im sure netch and necro outperform. dojt quote me

Cameron991

What are good sets that go great with shackle breaker

catch22atplay

I still prefer Necropotence and Julianas for a pet build. The extra magicka from Shackle doesn't make up for the crit and spell power from julianas. Although the magicka recovery is nice it's not needed. Besides i think i have enough magicka atm.

Cameron991

catch22atplay wrote: »

I still prefer Necropotence and Julianas for a pet build. The extra magicka from Shackle doesn't make up for the crit and spell power from julianas. Although the magicka recovery is nice it's not needed. Besides i think i have enough magicka atm.

I'm mostly pvp to though so is this pvp? @catch22atplay

dpencil1

I'm actually using Shacklebreaker and Lich. Sustain is practically infinite and damage is still nice. I'm usually the top scorer in BGs, at least in my own group if not between all the groups. I also play double pets with Necro/Lich in BGs too sometimes.

For PvE, I run Necro, Willpower, and Grothdarr or Ilambris.

Biro123

Cameron991 wrote: »

catch22atplay wrote: »

I still prefer Necropotence and Julianas for a pet build. The extra magicka from Shackle doesn't make up for the crit and spell power from julianas. Although the magicka recovery is nice it's not needed. Besides i think i have enough magicka atm.

I'm mostly pvp to though so is this pvp? @catch22atplay

I wouldn't run that for PvP.. No sustain.
Necro +shackle is fine though with the right drink. (And CP)

Juhasow

dpencil1 wrote: »

I'm actually using Shacklebreaker and Lich. Sustain is practically infinite and damage is still nice. I'm usually the top scorer in BGs, at least in my own group if not between all the groups. I also play double pets with Necro/Lich in BGs too sometimes.

For PvE, I run Necro, Willpower, and Grothdarr or Ilambris.

Which morph do You have on BG endless fury or mages wrath for top scores ?

dpencil1

Juhasow wrote: »

dpencil1 wrote: »

I'm actually using Shacklebreaker and Lich. Sustain is practically infinite and damage is still nice. I'm usually the top scorer in BGs, at least in my own group if not between all the groups. I also play double pets with Necro/Lich in BGs too sometimes.

For PvE, I run Necro, Willpower, and Grothdarr or Ilambris.

Which morph do You have on BG endless fury or mages wrath for top scores ?

LOL. Endless all the way! I'm not a kill stealer though, at least not on purpose.

brandonv516

Running 5 Necro/2 Infernal/3 Ancient Grace w/ MA Sharp Destro and random Defend Resto.

Very high magicka, twilight heals very good, sustain is awesome because of Dark Conversion, damage is really good too.

Plays very well in both cp and non cp (especially BG).

Benn G x

x5 Spelunker is best set in game, use that and bogdan the nightflame monster set and you're onto a winner!

Cameron991

Is the pvp pet builds any good? @brandonv516

dpencil1

I was running a pet build in PvP with Volatile Familiar and Twilight Matriarch. It's pretty strong, and the aoe stun from the Familiar can work really well when lots of people are balled up fighting. You lose a good amount of utility, though, because the pets take up so many slots. I've been performing better lately using the build I mentioned above, but I was running Necro/Lich for a long time and still had good results from it. Just understand you'll basically need to stand your ground, and will die more when the preassure is too much.

Cameron991

Any others I want good sustain and great burst damage I'm soooo stuck on all these sets what are some great mag sorc burst and sustain builds you have tried pvp again

dpencil1

There's going to be give and take with every set and skill combo. You just have to settle on the playstyle that works for you. Here are a few ideas:

Big sustain, meta skills: (combine any of these sets)
Amberplasm
Shacklebreaker
Lich
Seducer

1: Haunting Curse, Crushing Shock, Endless Fury, Crystal Frags, Inner Light, Shooting Star or Dawnbreaker or Destro Ult
2. Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka, Healing Ward, Steak or Ball of Lightning, Daedric Mines or something else, Lights Champion or Overload
OL: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Dark Conversion or Defensive Rune, Inner Light, Harness Magicka or Hardened Ward

Big burst, low sustain, meta skills: (combine any of these sets)
Julianos
Burning Spell Weave
Scathing Mage
Infallible Aether
Knight Slayer

You could also balance one sustain set with one dps set for a more well rounded build. Although, usually running two sustain sets is better for survivability and the burst is still enough to take enemies down, assuming your timing is good.

For a pet build:
Necropotence + sustain set

1: Crushing Shock, Crystal Frags, Endless Fury, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Inner Light, Shooting Star or Dawnbreaker or Destro Ult
2. Haunting Curse or Daedric Prey, Elemental Drain or Harness Magicka, Hardened Ward, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Steark/Ball, Lights Champion or Overload
3. OL: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Hardened Ward or Harness Magicka, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Dark Conversion.

You could also opt for one set, 3 Willpower jewelry, and a Monster set:
Engine Guardian (sustain)
Infernal Guardian (preassure while shielding)
Grothdarr (if fighting a lot in close range)

You should be happy there are many viable alternatives!

For myself, I have been running mainly:
Shacklebreaker + Lich with meta skills
Necropotence + Lich with double pet build skills
Necropotence + Shacklebreaker with single pet build skills

Hope that helps!

P.S. I mainly play BGs. So far, Shacklebreaker + Lich has been the setup I've performed the best with, but I think Necropotence + Shacklebreaker has the highest overall damage between my three setups. I did run Necro+BSW in duels sometimes before Morrowind. It was massive damage but not sustainable. If I coukdn't kill them in the first 10 seconds I would usually lose if my opponent was actually a good PvP player.

Cameron991

dpencil1 wrote: »

There's going to be give and take with every set and skill combo. You just have to settle on the playstyle that works for you. Here are a few ideas:

Big sustain, meta skills: (combine any of these sets)
Amberplasm
Shacklebreaker
Lich
Seducer

1: Haunting Curse, Crushing Shock, Endless Fury, Crystal Frags, Inner Light, Shooting Star or Dawnbreaker or Destro Ult
2. Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka, Healing Ward, Steak or Ball of Lightning, Daedric Mines or something else, Lights Champion or Overload
OL: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Dark Conversion or Defensive Rune, Inner Light, Harness Magicka or Hardened Ward

Big burst, low sustain, meta skills: (combine any of these sets)
Julianos
Burning Spell Weave
Scathing Mage
Infallible Aether
Knight Slayer

You could also balance one sustain set with one dps set for a more well rounded build. Although, usually running two sustain sets is better for survivability and the burst is still enough to take enemies down, assuming your timing is good.

For a pet build:
Necropotence + sustain set

1: Crushing Shock, Crystal Frags, Endless Fury, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Inner Light, Shooting Star or Dawnbreaker or Destro Ult
2. Haunting Curse or Daedric Prey, Elemental Drain or Harness Magicka, Hardened Ward, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Steark/Ball, Lights Champion or Overload
3. OL: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Hardened Ward or Harness Magicka, Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar or Dark Conversion.

You could also opt for one set, 3 Willpower jewelry, and a Monster set:
Engine Guardian (sustain)
Infernal Guardian (preassure while shielding)
Grothdarr (if fighting a lot in close range)

You should be happy there are many viable alternatives!

For myself, I have been running mainly:
Shacklebreaker + Lich with meta skills
Necropotence + Lich with double pet build skills
Necropotence + Shacklebreaker with single pet build skills

Hope that helps!

P.S. I mainly play BGs. So far, Shacklebreaker + Lich has been the setup I've performed the best with, but I think Necropotence + Shacklebreaker has the highest overall damage between my three setups. I did run Necro+BSW in duels sometimes before Morrowind. It was massive damage but not sustainable. If I coukdn't kill them in the first 10 seconds I would usually lose if my opponent was actually a good PvP player.

Cool thanks I just got to 50 with him so not sure what is the best you know. I also heard about alteration mastery with shackle breaker how's that you think? @dpencil1

dpencil1

Oh yeah, that's another good sustain set!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

For PVP, the first question to ask is "do I want to run a pet?" If the answer is yes, it is hard to say no to Necro as one of your 2 5 pieces. It could certainly be paired with Shacklebreaker. One nice thing about necro, is that you can get enough magic that perhaps you dont need a straight regen set to go with it.

Typically speaking for a sorc, dont over think it. Find yourself a DPS set and a regen set. Good DPS sets, spinner, BSW, Julianos, Necro, etc., good sustain sets, Lich, Amber Plasm, Seducer, I suppose Shacklebreaker.

I am not a huge fan of just about any hybrid set, which schacklebreaker certainly is. One could argue that Amber Plasm is a hybrid set, but on sorcs in makes a lot of sense.

Cameron991

dpencil1 wrote: »

Oh yeah, that's another good sustain set!

Do you know where to get it? Ik it's in cyrodill but what boxes @dpencil1

dpencil1

Cropsford light armor box. Or you could buy it with gold from guild traders. I think it's also included in the Rewards for the Worthy mails now.