Xbox One X

Mysteri0n

Just Wondering if the Graphics gonna be upgraded for the new system

AzraelKrieg

Probably will be.

Toc de Malsvi

Don't care for better graphics. I want a more stable server and functioning Trials.

Bonzodog01

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

Sheva I 7 I

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

cant wait to cook my eggs on xbox x especially in trials.

mr1sho

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

GDOFWR420

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

I know right, but they did display it for 4k support @ e3.

ATEK302

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

NewBlacksmurf

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

Peekachu99

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

You realize you're going to get the exact same 'port' as what the PS4 Pro got. Just like Xbone and PS4 (basic) had the exact same visual code. Multiplatform devs have done this in nearly every game they can: Destiny, Warframe, DCUO, ESO etc.. I know you're set on this 'visual sliders' thing, but it ain't gonna happen. Don't expect what you can get from a 1080 SLI or you're in for a world of disappointment. CPU is still a major bottleneck for these games and for any mid-gen console refresh.

I'm sure XOX will have the most stable framerate out of all the console platforms and iterations, though.

Edit: for reference, here's the faceoff of the versions we have (minus the Pro):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-elder-scrolls-online-face-off

MurderMostFoul

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

DjMuscleboy02

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

the only thing my xbox one s supports is frequent game crashes and long load times

MurderMostFoul

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

1S does not have the horsepower to support native 4k AAA gaming. 1X does. I suggest you read up on it a bit. I don't think MS has done a great job with their messaging regarding the 1X. Hence misunderstandings like your's.

NewBlacksmurf

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

Peekachu99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

You realize you're going to get the exact same 'port' as what the PS4 Pro got. Just like Xbone and PS4 (basic) had the exact same visual code. Multiplatform devs have done this in nearly every game they can: Destiny, Warframe, DCUO, ESO etc.. I know you're set on this 'visual sliders' thing, but it ain't gonna happen. Don't expect what you can get from a 1080 SLI or you're in for a world of disappointment. CPU is still a major bottleneck for these games and for any mid-gen console refresh.

I'm sure XOX will have the most stable framerate out of all the console platforms and iterations, though.

Edit: for reference, here's the faceoff of the versions we have (minus the Pro):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-elder-scrolls-online-face-off

@ATEK302

Thanks for sharing media and internet opinions on the matter. That article is 2 years old and has no context to the Xbox one x Dev kit results that ZeniMax uses. The developer may choose not to use this or that but your comment is invalid

Fallen_Ray

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

Rosveen

Just so you know, your shiny new "native 4k" console used checkerboarding in AC Origins and Anthem E3 presentations.

Foreverxghosty

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

Yes, you need to understand when PS4 and Xbox One first debut, they were already under powered when they hit the shelves. However this was what about four years ago, today our technology has further itself to bless us with a better console and if people want to buy it and see if it will run 4k 60fps then so be it. Xbox One X is a hell of a console. Honestly its no ordinary console. Its the first most powerful console to ever hit the market. Its the first console to ever introduce an liquid cooling system inside a console.

Microsoft has already stated that the Xbox One X is not for everyone even though they would love for everyone to have one, its just not. Its meant for those hardcore, advocate gamers who do not want to drop down to 5 fps when they are trying to raid on ESO. Its also people who like to min-max everything they get and just want the best unit to run there games.

PS4 Pro did help with ESO frame rate drops and certain performance issues and people all around have stated that. However lets compare PS4 Pro to Xbox One X.

PS4 Pro
PU – x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores at 2.1GHz

GPU – AMD Radeon at 4.2 teraflops

Clock Speed – 911MHz

RAM – 8GB GDDR5 at 218GB/s and only 4GB is dedicated to actually gaming the rest is dedicated to the operating system

Xbox One X
CPU – Eight custom x86 cores clocked at 2.3 GHz

GPU – Custom AMD chipset ‘Scorpio Engine’ at 6 teraflops

Clock Speed – 1172MHz

RAM – 12GB GDDR5 at 326GB/s 9GB is dedicated to Actual gaming rest is dedicated to Operating system

PS4 Pro was considered to have 35% performance boost over PS4, while PS4 was 10% in performance better than Xbox One

Xbox One X was already tested and was said to have over a 50%performance boost over the PS4 Pro. Do the math.

Honestly, no this does not compare to some powerful gaming PC that someone spent over $3000 to build. The Xbox One X was designed to give console gamers a PC like feeling of having a powerful beast within their homes so they did not have to go and spend over $2000 to build or abandon their friends on their console. I tried playing on PC for ESO and honestly in my opinion PC players are way too pampered with addons and sorts. Console at this moment has only delivered problems on ESO when trying to play the content. ZoS this is your time to step it up, and take advantage of all the hardware that in Xbox One X because if you do not they will lose more than have of their community to Destiny and Black Desert Online for Consoles.

xbobx

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

eso on ps4pro is native 4k, already proven

Fallen_Ray

Foreverxghosty wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

Yes, you need to understand when PS4 and Xbox One first debut, they were already under powered when they hit the shelves. However this was what about four years ago, today our technology has further itself to bless us with a better console and if people want to buy it and see if it will run 4k 60fps then so be it. Xbox One X is a hell of a console. Honestly its no ordinary console. Its the first most powerful console to ever hit the market. Its the first console to ever introduce an liquid cooling system inside a console.

Microsoft has already stated that the Xbox One X is not for everyone even though they would love for everyone to have one, its just not. Its meant for those hardcore, advocate gamers who do not want to drop down to 5 fps when they are trying to raid on ESO. Its also people who like to min-max everything they get and just want the best unit to run there games.

PS4 Pro did help with ESO frame rate drops and certain performance issues and people all around have stated that. However lets compare PS4 Pro to Xbox One X.

PS4 Pro
PU – x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores at 2.1GHz

GPU – AMD Radeon at 4.2 teraflops

Clock Speed – 911MHz

RAM – 8GB GDDR5 at 218GB/s and only 4GB is dedicated to actually gaming the rest is dedicated to the operating system

Xbox One X
CPU – Eight custom x86 cores clocked at 2.3 GHz

GPU – Custom AMD chipset ‘Scorpio Engine’ at 6 teraflops

Clock Speed – 1172MHz

RAM – 12GB GDDR5 at 326GB/s 9GB is dedicated to Actual gaming rest is dedicated to Operating system

PS4 Pro was considered to have 35% performance boost over PS4, while PS4 was 10% in performance better than Xbox One

Xbox One X was already tested and was said to have over a 50%performance boost over the PS4 Pro. Do the math.

Honestly, no this does not compare to some powerful gaming PC that someone spent over $3000 to build. The Xbox One X was designed to give console gamers a PC like feeling of having a powerful beast within their homes so they did not have to go and spend over $2000 to build or abandon their friends on their console. I tried playing on PC for ESO and honestly in my opinion PC players are way too pampered with addons and sorts. Console at this moment has only delivered problems on ESO when trying to play the content. ZoS this is your time to step it up, and take advantage of all the hardware that in Xbox One X because if you do not they will lose more than have of their community to Destiny and Black Desert Online for Consoles.

Your description of the xbox one x interested me. Did a quick seach, not liquid cooling perse, more like "vapor" cooling. But seems overall better and more reliable than the ol' fans nonetheless. This might change the way I think about the PS4 Pro if they were to add a similar cooling system.

I still aven't seen much of E3 yet. I only know what I've read and it hasn't been much so yeah. That's why I didn't know about the details of the new xbox. E3 seems somewhat dead this year. Not so much hype as 2015 for me.

Peekachu99

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

Peekachu99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

You realize you're going to get the exact same 'port' as what the PS4 Pro got. Just like Xbone and PS4 (basic) had the exact same visual code. Multiplatform devs have done this in nearly every game they can: Destiny, Warframe, DCUO, ESO etc.. I know you're set on this 'visual sliders' thing, but it ain't gonna happen. Don't expect what you can get from a 1080 SLI or you're in for a world of disappointment. CPU is still a major bottleneck for these games and for any mid-gen console refresh.

I'm sure XOX will have the most stable framerate out of all the console platforms and iterations, though.

Edit: for reference, here's the faceoff of the versions we have (minus the Pro):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-elder-scrolls-online-face-off

@ATEK302

Thanks for sharing media and internet opinions on the matter. That article is 2 years old and has no context to the Xbox one x Dev kit results that ZeniMax uses. The developer may choose not to use this or that but your comment is invalid

I'll be sure to post the DF breakdown once it's up for you. What a world you live in where reality is wholly subject to your opinions. "This has no context..." Even though it's a direct comparison of platforms with a near identical power gulf (30-40%) to what we'll see with he Pro and the X, and of the same generation of chips (XOX is STILL a Jaguar). I think you might want to check out the usage of 'context', since that's exactly what I provided.

As usual, I've got nothing else to say since you like to drag every dissenting discussion into a quagmire to shut it down. Believe what you will. I already know from the past, from the many examples of XOX checkerboarding already on display, what the ESO port will be like.

MurderMostFoul

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/09/08/the-elder-scrolls-online---playstationr4-pro-announcement

states:
"When the PlayStation®4 Pro launches on November 10th, you'll be able to play ESO immediately in native 4K resolution!"

I guess you are saying ZOS is strait up lying?

And on the subject of cooling, they literally invented a new heat management technique and are using a highly custom designed cooling system.

From: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed -

"One of the things we do is we basically fine tune the voltages for each of the chips and optimise them so the chips are getting exactly what they need to get the job done... That drives a much higher degree of efficiency into the system and allows us to get rid of a lot of wasted power that would otherwise come out as heat." It's a technique that Microsoft calls the 'Hovis method', named after the engineer who developed it.

Microsoft is using a vapour chamber heat sink. It consists of a copper vessel that forms its basis, inside of which is deionised water under vacuum. Heat is absorbed into the water, where it vapourises. The steam convects away from the hot spots and condenses on the heat sink fins. It's highly efficient - but the heat still needs to be expelled from the system and the standard axial fans used on prior Xbox hardware wouldn't cut the mustard. "We went to a custom designed adapted centrifugal fan for this design," Del Castillo continues. "It kind of looks like a supercharger on a car, it looks like an intercooler almost. Every part about this is custom designed for the application."

Long story short, I can't wait to play ESO in native 4k on Xbox 1X when it comes out on 11/9.

Fallen_Ray

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS has confirmed an update for Xbox1X:

https://www.windowscentral.com/elder-scrolls-online-getting-upgraded-project-scorpio-year

mr1sho wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

ZOS have already said that ESO will be upgraded for the XBox One X, so it will do 4K graphics.

4k mmo on a console LMAO stop it you killing me

PS4 Pro's update enables the game to run in native 4K on console, I'm sure we will see the same thing for Xbox1X. What's so funny?

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/09/08/the-elder-scrolls-online---playstationr4-pro-announcement

states:
"When the PlayStation®4 Pro launches on November 10th, you'll be able to play ESO immediately in native 4K resolution!"

I guess you are saying ZOS is strait up lying?

And on the subject of cooling, they literally invented a new heat management technique and are using has a highly custom designed cooling system.

From: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed -

"One of the things we do is we basically fine tune the voltages for each of the chips and optimise them so the chips are getting exactly what they need to get the job done... That drives a much higher degree of efficiency into the system and allows us to get rid of a lot of wasted power that would otherwise come out as heat." It's a technique that Microsoft calls the 'Hovis method', named after the engineer who developed it.

Microsoft is using a vapour chamber heat sink. It consists of a copper vessel that forms its basis, inside of which is deionised water under vacuum. Heat is absorbed into the water, where it vapourises. The steam convects away from the hot spots and condenses on the heat sink fins. It's highly efficient - but the heat still needs to be expelled from the system and the standard axial fans used on prior Xbox hardware wouldn't cut the mustard. "We went to a custom designed adapted centrifugal fan for this design," Del Castillo continues. "It kind of looks like a supercharger on a car, it looks like an intercooler almost. Every part about this is custom designed for the application."

Long story short, I can't wait to play ESO in native 4k on Xbox 1X when it comes out on 11/9.

PS4 Pro hardly give you half of 4k here see for yourself. Native res 1440p, upscaled 2160p. Still not 4k native, not literally anyway

Xbox one x well found an interesting comparison here. Hardware Between xbox one x and PS4 is almost the same with the xbox's one being higher. Judging from that it might have higher native resolution than the PS4 Pro. But stil not 4k Native.

This is the same as when the PS3 and Xbox 360 were out. You were sold 1080p gaming as it's tru resolution. When what you really got was 720p native graphics up scaled to 1080p. Native and up scaled are 2 different things and on a big tv there's hardly any noticeable difference at simple glance.

Besides due to signal conversions you will never get the resolution you are being sold.

MurderMostFoul

@Fallen_Ray

Nothing you have linked states that ESO in not in native 4k on PS4 Pro.

Obviously not every game will be native 4k, but several AAA titles are on PS4 Pro, including ESO. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that these same games, and other will be in Native 4k on Xbox 1X.

ZOS has unequivocally stated that ESO runs in native 4k on PS4 Pro. There no reason for anything less on Xbox 1X.

Signal conversions, lol, wut?

Fallen_Ray

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

@Fallen_Ray

Nothing you have linked states that ESO in not in native 4k on PS4 Pro.

Obviously not every game will be native 4k, but several AAA titles are on PS4 Pro, including ESO. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that these same games, and other will be in Native 4k on Xbox 1X.

ZOS has unequivocally stated that ESO runs in native 4k on PS4 Pro. There no reason for anything less on Xbox 1X.

Signal conversions, lol, wut?

@MurderMostFoul
Original post:

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Consoles will never perform how they are advertised. Remember when they said that the PS4 was capable of 60 FPS and Full HD (1080p native) Resolution gaming? Here we stand 4 years after the PS4's release and yet no game has performed like that. Sure they may say that the PS4 Pro is capable of "4k native", it's a marketing sham. You have no idea the kind of hardware and power that's required to run 4K, 4 times 1080p (4320p) native. And let's not talk about the cooling system it would need. Fans and a few holes wouldn't do much to keep it alive. There's a reason why the highest end PC used for real HD gaming use sophisticated liquid cooling instead of fans.

The resolution you get from the PS4 Pro & Xbox one x is upscaled. Yes thay may say 4k native is possible on select games. But those are lies to get you to buy it. The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P. They sell it as 4k because on a 4k TV that 1440p upscaled looks stunning.

What's funny about it, is that. Oh, And I'm a console gamer by the way, I just face the facts for what they are.

Where in reality's name have I mentioned ESO in there? I'm speaking only about consoles specs, resolution,etc. And when I mention games I do not identify any game in particular.

KingJ

@Fallen_Ray have you looked at the specs for XBox one X?Digital foundry has a wonderful write up about the ONe X.Her.e a video from them https://youtu.be/RE2hNrq1Zxs
The PS4 pro was stated from experts that it couldn't do native 4k gaming XBox one X on the other hand wasn't the case.Many experts have seen it run games in 4k native.It also uses Liquid cooling.PS4 pro can't do it but the Xbox one X can do Native 4k.

DonWalking

Basically to wrap it all up.

Yes, the Xbox One X will support 4k graphics (Was confirmed by ZoS and at the E3 announcement as part of the lineup of games)

Yes, the Xbox One S does support 4k resolution but ONLY on video (Believe it was for Blu-ray)

And Yes, the Xbox One X will be able to handle it, as of right now, it's the most powerful console to date

And finally, No, the Xbox One X still isn't better than PCs, it may be able to compete with SOME PCs but the majority of high class gaming PCs still outrank the Xbox One X.

There, we done now?

Darkdex

I'm not sure if I'm going to buy XOX just for ESO... Buy if we can run Trials SMOOTHLY in that system.. well, maybe i'll buy it.

Kammakazi

MurderMostFoul

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Where in reality's name have I mentioned ESO in there?

Basically here:

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

The highest resolution the PS4 Pro Can Achieve is 1440P.

Your statement clearly applies to every game. I'm just trying to control the spread of misinformation. ESO is native 4k on PS4 Pro, as are other games. Those games, and more, will be native 4k on Xbox 1X.

NewBlacksmurf

Peekachu99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

Peekachu99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ATEK302 wrote: »

Xbox 1S already supports 4k. Why buy 1X?

Because it's not native 4k and there are no visual sliders moved up.

You realize you're going to get the exact same 'port' as what the PS4 Pro got. Just like Xbone and PS4 (basic) had the exact same visual code. Multiplatform devs have done this in nearly every game they can: Destiny, Warframe, DCUO, ESO etc.. I know you're set on this 'visual sliders' thing, but it ain't gonna happen. Don't expect what you can get from a 1080 SLI or you're in for a world of disappointment. CPU is still a major bottleneck for these games and for any mid-gen console refresh.

I'm sure XOX will have the most stable framerate out of all the console platforms and iterations, though.

Edit: for reference, here's the faceoff of the versions we have (minus the Pro):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-elder-scrolls-online-face-off

@ATEK302

Thanks for sharing media and internet opinions on the matter. That article is 2 years old and has no context to the Xbox one x Dev kit results that ZeniMax uses. The developer may choose not to use this or that but your comment is invalid

I'll be sure to post the DF breakdown once it's up for you. What a world you live in where reality is wholly subject to your opinions. "This has no context..." Even though it's a direct comparison of platforms with a near identical power gulf (30-40%) to what we'll see with he Pro and the X, and of the same generation of chips (XOX is STILL a Jaguar). I think you might want to check out the usage of 'context', since that's exactly what I provided.

As usual, I've got nothing else to say since you like to drag every dissenting discussion into a quagmire to shut it down. Believe what you will. I already know from the past, from the many examples of XOX checkerboarding already on display, what the ESO port will be like.

@Peekachu99

1. Did you even read the prior comments and link of the other user you decided to quote?

2. There is literally no information on what decisions ZOS will or has made as well as after those decisions, what results will apply to the Xbox one. It's extremely inaccurate to suggest the Xbox one x is getting the same as the PS4 pro without any ZOS remarks on the matter.

3. What is available is the hardware specs that are far above the PS4 Pro so in reading your comments, it comes off as if you're misunderstanding the facts or possibly inserting unfounded opinions on unknown details. They are far from "nearly identical" by a long shot.

The GPU, CPU and Ram alone for gaming use is more than the entire PS4 Pro for gaming and OS.

Digital Foundry isn't a developer so I comprehend that many like to use reference to their analysis of frames and visuals but they can't offer any context to developer decisions. It's just analysis on CPU, GPU and FPS as well as pixels shown. So whatever decisions ZOS makes doesn't qualify as any confirmation of what the Xbox one X is capable of unless they start comparing multiple possible builds.

The media sway has really taken root across the internet. SMH

Fallen_Ray

KingJ wrote: »

@Fallen_Ray have you looked at the specs for XBox one X?Digital foundry has a wonderful write up about the ONe X.Her.e a video from them https://youtu.be/RE2hNrq1Zxs
The PS4 pro was stated from experts that it couldn't do native 4k gaming XBox one X on the other hand wasn't the case.Many experts have seen it run games in 4k native.It also uses Liquid cooling.PS4 pro can't do it but the Xbox one X can do Native 4k.

@KingJ thanks will watch the video when I get home, but regarding the cooling from what i've read it's not exactly liquid though the proces involves using liquid