Majority of PVP Likes CP, Why is There More NON CP Campaigns / BGs ?

Pirhana7_ESO

Far more PVP players like and prefer having CPs active, so why in the world do you have more NON CP campaigns than CP campaigns? and all BGS are No CP? It makes no sense. Everything should be the complete opposite. There has been many poles and its always like only 20% who don;t like CPs..... Right now you have 1 CP campaign that is full all day long with a long wait....

I understand the CP system was very unbalanced at first but over the last year and especially with Morrowind it is much better and IMO where it should be for the game to use it 100%

But even so why would you make all these campaigns and BG just for the 20% of the crowd that doesn't want CP while only giving 1 thing to the other 80%?

Thelon

Strider_Roshin

Because it's not what we want, it's what ZOS wants.

DeHei

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

Far more PVP players like and prefer having CPs active, so why in the world do you have more NON CP campaigns than CP campaigns? and all BGS are No CP? It makes no sense. Everything should be the complete opposite. There has been many poles and its always like only 20% who don;t like CPs..... Right now you have 1 CP campaign that is full all day long with a long wait....

I understand the CP system was very unbalanced at first but over the last year and especially with Morrowind it is much better and IMO where it should be for the game to use it 100%

But even so why would you make all these campaigns and BG just for the 20% of the crowd that doesn't want CP while only giving 1 thing to the other 80%?

I wished one 7days campain with CP back. Then everybody can choose, what he prefer..
And CP BGs would be fine..

Humphie

Sigh...just adjust and get over it. Zos wants to take PvP into no CP direction. Suck it up.

SanTii.92

Oh, this one is simple. Performance.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Humphie wrote: »

Sigh...just adjust and get over it. Zos wants to take PvP into no CP direction. Suck it up.

Yup. I enjoy my CP, but playing BGs without them is still quite fun. Just suck it up, leave yourself with one glaring weakness that you'll hope no one finds and have at it. You can still do 90% of what you can do in CP in non-CP if you know what you're doing.

leepalmer95

Non cp gets rid of a lot of balance issues

CavalryPK

The only reason i am in cp is because non cp is empty when i am online.

s7732425ub17_ESO

Non CP has better balance and much better performance.

cheemers

If more people would adopt non-CP pvp in cyrodiil the one CP campaign wouldn't always be rammed. Some of the most fun PvP I had was during the double AP non-CP event.

film

We could try a weekend of CP-BG's and see if that helps the queuing...

Noobslayer3255

I am quite enjoying non-CP PvP. Not sure sure you are correct in stating that the "majority" of PvP prefers having CP.

AlexiasDaex

Im a long time player, I left the game a couple of times for over a year. But I am/was a serious pvper. I got to brigadier 3 months after the game came out. And I gotta say even tho I'm more powerful with 600 CP I like non CP combat way better. Non CP feels more like playing at the beginning of the game when pvp was at its peak.

Sigtric

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

Far more PVP players like and prefer having CPs active, so why in the world do you have more NON CP campaigns than CP campaigns? and all BGS are No CP? It makes no sense. Everything should be the complete opposite. There has been many poles and its always like only 20% who don;t like CPs..... Right now you have 1 CP campaign that is full all day long with a long wait....

I understand the CP system was very unbalanced at first but over the last year and especially with Morrowind it is much better and IMO where it should be for the game to use it 100%

But even so why would you make all these campaigns and BG just for the 20% of the crowd that doesn't want CP while only giving 1 thing to the other 80%?

Can you show me your data backing up your claims?

DaveMoeDee

I don't care either way, but the guild I PvP with always picks the CP campaign. I don't know if it is because they like CP, or if it is because that is where the action is.

TalonKnight

There should probably be a cp campaign to choose from, but NO cp is much more balanced.

Joy_Division

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Non cp gets rid of a lot of balance issues

And introduces and exacerbates a lot of other balance issues.

Koolio

When I first started playing this game I did a lot of questing. That's all I did until I finished all areas. I just hit vet 14 as the cap went to vet 16. I had 130 or so Cp. Then I went into pvp. I absolutely loved it but wasn't too good. Or leveled. I spent everyday in pve trying to get to 400 cp so I could be at least decent. Now I've gained to 950 cp in pvp primarily. The only I played pve was for pvp purposes. The ONLY reason was to be strong in pvp. Nothing else. Never done a vet trial. Ever. Now I'm being pushed into not using them and it pisses me off. I can deal with no cp BG. Just 80+ que to play in Cp campaign is ridiculous. I will wait to play that all day. Because I earned the Cp to use them in pvp. And that's why I continue to play. Because I like CP pvp. If I knew they were going to remove them I would stuck with COD.

Absalon

We will probably get a CP Battleground on the near future, otherwise we wound't have the option to select (non cp) after clicking on battlegrounds. The real reason we didn't get a cp BG so far is to prevent new players from getting spanked and had a terrible experience after spending $40 on morrowind.

Scadiz

I am missing an option when 30 day cp campaign is poplocked.
I hate to wait in queue every prime time.
I don't want to play non cp.
I don't want to be a part of a 24 men zerg train.
I like to have a slide chance to escape when being chased by tryhards. (cps can help in this case)
I like to have complexity and more setting options for my characters.
I like longer and more intense fights.

We need a second option for players who want to play with cps. Don't force players to join non cp if they prefer cps
(current situation during prime time)
If there is another cp campaign it would not interfere with non cp players interests.

Look at prime time pvp since last patch....
There is a demand for a second cp campaign.

Asardes

I haven't seen any difference in zerg frequency and size between 30 day CP and non-CP campaigns. People group because there are many of them. On 7 day ones there isn't any zerg because people are too few to group up. And the 7 day CP one was only for pvdoor and TV farm anyway

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Asardes wrote: »

I haven't seen any difference in zerg frequency and size between 30 day CP and non-CP campaigns. People group because there are many of them. On 7 day ones there isn't any zerg because people are too few to group up. And the 7 day CP one was only for pvdoor and TV farm anyway

CP or non-CP make no difference to people who want to tightly group up. Take a look at Battlegrounds for an example. It's a no-CP environment and it took like 3 days for every pug group to realize that sticking together is a much more productive way to fight than 4 people all doing their own thing.

The only thing stopping BGs from being a Zerg fest is the cap of 4 players per team. CP have nothing to do with it.

Juhasow

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Oh, this one is simple. Performance.

Well I think it can be also fact that with Morrowind Zenimax awaited lot of new players incoming and they would be rekt in CP campaigns and leave the game , so Zenimax gaved more non CP options so newcomers wont feel underpowered.

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

Non CP has better balance and much better performance.

TalonKnight wrote: »

There should probably be a cp campaign to choose from, but NO cp is much more balanced.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Non cp gets rid of a lot of balance issues

Performance yes ballance no. Many things that is cancerous with CP is even more cancerous without them atm. At the end of the day it's just easier to zerg people down but ballance between builds is messed up.

Drakkdjinn

Cuz CP PvP is not really PvP

Rohamad_Ali

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Non cp gets rid of a lot of balance issues

And replaces them with proc sets , siege and poison .

Alchemical

Most people are probably not CP capped, so they would rather play no CP than be at a horrifying disadvantage vs CP capped people. More people playing that = more campaigns tailored to it.

Always remember the casual playerbase out numbers the core.

McCracken79

The problem with the no CP campaigns and Battlegrounds is that the only thing that changes is not having any CP. You have to adjust just about everything as well almost like it was when we had vet levels. They balanced the game with CP, well balance may not be the correct word, lol.

schorse

I have no clue why they changed the former Haderus to no CP in the first place. The campagin got more and more popular until the patch dropped. Especially the few weeks right before the patch.

Now Almalexia is empty. I'm still waiting to see 3 bars on any faction there. Even at prime time.

I enjoy playing on a CP campaign.
Not only because the proc sets feel less effective there.
I like to have an advantage when fighting against multiple opponents especially when it's level 10 Legolas sniping you from maximum distance. And yes this is possible now due to the change of the skill order in the bow skillline.

Nevertheless if you like CP or no CP. I think the numbers spoke on this one.
Haderus was not always poplocked but far more populated than Almalexia.

Please revert the campaign to CP.

Kalante

"Gets rid of balance issues" yeah when every single person and their mother in BG's use proc sets.

VERY BALANCED INDEED

MurderMostFoul

Proc sets are a problem in non-CP PvP, but I still prefer it to CP PvP