Question on the new Midyear Mayhem event coming up..

Smokinroses

I was reading the achievements..about the "Win a battle in the Battlegrounds"...With the battlegrounds, from my understandings they were only for Morrowwind players...how are people without the "Chapter" suppose to do that achievement during the event? Or is there going to be a special one for this event? But also not sure not on the Imperial District... lol I don't know if that's part of the Imperial DLC or what. I'm kind of new to the PVP area i'm starting to get more involved with it.

mesmerizedish

You need the Imperial City DLC to complete the "Capture an Imperial City district" achievement, and you need Morrowind to complete the "Win a battleground" achievement.

Lylith

i own them both, but it's still a *** move to require them for an event achievement.

mesmerizedish

Lylith wrote: »

i own them both, but it's still a *** move to require them for an event achievement.

The only other MMO I've played seriously that does holiday events is WoW, and WoW requires the latest expansion to complete all the holiday achievements, so it's not unprecedented.

I think it would be much worse to have a PvP themed event and offer no rewards for the brand new mode of PvP included in the latest content release.

It would be very cool of them if they made the content available to everyone during the event, but that's not something I think anyone is entitled to, especially not just for some achievements.

Lylith

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Lylith wrote: »

i own them both, but it's still a *** move to require them for an event achievement.

The only other MMO I've played seriously that does holiday events is WoW, and WoW requires the latest expansion to complete all the holiday achievements, so it's not unprecedented.

I think it would be much worse to have a PvP themed event and offer no rewards for the brand new mode of PvP included in the latest content release.

It would be very cool of them if they made the content available to everyone during the event, but that's not something I think anyone is entitled to, especially not just for some achievements.

here's hoping battlegrounds are working properly by the time the event rolls around.

mesmerizedish

Lylith wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Lylith wrote: »

i own them both, but it's still a *** move to require them for an event achievement.

The only other MMO I've played seriously that does holiday events is WoW, and WoW requires the latest expansion to complete all the holiday achievements, so it's not unprecedented.

I think it would be much worse to have a PvP themed event and offer no rewards for the brand new mode of PvP included in the latest content release.

It would be very cool of them if they made the content available to everyone during the event, but that's not something I think anyone is entitled to, especially not just for some achievements.

here's hoping battlegrounds are working properly by the time the event rolls around.

Yeah I do think people are entitled to a functioning product.

Smokinroses

Wow, that's pretty lame.. lol And a bit irritating to hear. I was hoping to complete the entire Event completion list. Don't understand this whole "Event" if everyone can't enjoy and complete it... Doesn't seem fair to the rest. I was looking forward trying PVP for once. Now just don't seem like worrying about it, and/or excited.. Pretty disappointing. It's not really an event, should be just labeled in exploration or something in the other achievements category. Considering the requirements in order to complete this event. Bleh.

Asardes

When is this event starting? Mid year sould be something like the last week in June and first in July assuming it's a 2 week event. But that's just my assumption.

ChuckyPayne

I have no problem with that. Of course, it would be better if every player base (PVE and PVP both) could enjoy every event.

Edit, in GW1 need long years to do this. There are weekly bonuses, weekly event and holiday events too. Now the weeklies and the holiday events have PVE and PVP aspect too.

Vapirko

All I see in a summer pvp event is lag lag lag lag.

Turelus

It's a very bad achievement and something I personally would urge ZOS to reconsider before the event.

People shouldn't be forced to spend money buying an expansion just to complete a holiday event.

Smokinroses

Turelus wrote: »

It's a very bad achievement and something I personally would urge ZOS to reconsider before the event.

People shouldn't be forced to spend money buying an expansion just to complete a holiday event.

Yes, thank you! Exactly!! That's why I think it should not be a "Holiday Event" just very frustrating. I wasn't going to pay 35$ for upgrading my game just for the event... -_- I wasn't ready to pay that kind of money yet on the Morrowind. I understand ZOS needs to make money.. Which Morrowind does look cool. But i'm not ready to buy it. Right now, it's like they're making us do it, and it doesn't seem fair. How is it a Holiday event? Why not make it an event without achievements, just like the Three year anni or whatever that was. Where you weren't amp to get an achievements..Just getting special rewards was good enough.. Because this doesn't seem festive at all considering a lot will be left out. Just not fair at all.

I believe since it's a "Holiday event" They should make a special Battleground just for this event for people who don't have the pack, and with the Imperial District one make it something different, or at least make it something special so everyone can get the achievement. Which could give players a taste of what the other Battlegrounds are like. Which could help potential buyers.

LMar

You still get special rewards doing the event even if you don't complete all the achievements. So just do it for the special items and double AP

imnotanother

No offense to anyone but let's use a bit of logic and reasoning to understand why these events require the new material.

DLCs, expansions, etc are all part of "the game." The event uses quest, objectives, missions, to complete achievements in the game.

If you only want to play (buy) half the game, then don't expect to get the full experience like everyone else.

Smokinroses

imnotanother wrote: »

No offense to anyone but let's use a bit of logic and reasoning to understand why these events require the new material.

DLCs, expansions, etc are all part of "the game." The event uses quest, objectives, missions, to complete achievements in the game.

If you only want to play (buy) half the game, then don't expect to get the full experience like everyone else.

I definitely understand what your meaning, part of me definitely agrees with that.. but still doesn't excuse the point of a "Holiday Event" when only certain people can play. Not many are fortunate to afford the Chapter even if it's a "small price" to pay. That's still unfair to many of us, and still can't understand why they put it as a "Holiday Event" because in all honesty it's not festive for some. Other's will argue because they have ALL the DLC's plus the new Chapter. So of course they will argue and be on ESO's side on this and argue they have no problem with the event. If they were on the other side and not having the "Morrowind" Chapter or Imperial DLC.. Then they'd be pretty upset too.

It's just the fact that a lot will be left out ...and in order to complete the event achievements we'd have to pay 35$ (to upgrade) plus the extra either crowns or purchase of the crowns...for Imperial DLC. And when the events over, and you are finally are able to get both, you won't be able to complete it so you'd be stuck with un-earned achievements that could of been avoided. So this event is pretty expensive and unfair. That's what i'm trying to stress, this really isn't a "Holiday Event" more so just a money event for ESO. Not trying to dis ESO because I really do love this game it's so addicting, and I do understand that they need an income, and that eventually many will be getting Morrowind. But just the fact that it's REQUIRED in order to play this so called "Holiday Event" it shouldn't be played that way. All the other "Holiday Events" weren't played that way.. At least when they did the Anniversary for Osirum and for Thieves Guild, they didn't have achievements whether just more so bonuses for playing in the area's, and that I totally understand and agree with. But this so called "Holiday Event" is a bit misleading. lol

That's why I was mentioning making a make shift Battleground and something different for the Imperial District thing, for the "Holiday Event", so it's FAIR to everyone...But I do understanding what you are saying though, I really do. Just isn't fair for a "Holiday Event" with ESO talking about wanting everyone to get together on these event's they create...yet many will be left out. lol Just isn't right, nor fair.

Smokinroses

LMar wrote: »

You still get special rewards doing the event even if you don't complete all the achievements. So just do it for the special items and double AP

I see your point in that, and that's a different way of looking at it! If they keep the "Holiday Event" the way it is...with only certain people able to complete it all. Then that's the only choice we have.

PocketAces13xb

If you're a completionist then get Morrowind since you'll need that for all the achievements anyway. If you don't care about missing out on Morrowind achievements then you shouldn't care about missing out on a "holiday event" achievement.

imnotanother

PocketAces13xb wrote: »

If you're a completionist then get Morrowind since you'll need that for all the achievements anyway. If you don't care about missing out on Morrowind achievements then you shouldn't care about missing out on a "holiday event" achievement.

Exactly. Good point.

Smokinroses wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

No offense to anyone but let's use a bit of logic and reasoning to understand why these events require the new material.

DLCs, expansions, etc are all part of "the game." The event uses quest, objectives, missions, to complete achievements in the game.

If you only want to play (buy) half the game, then don't expect to get the full experience like everyone else.

I definitely understand what your meaning, part of me definitely agrees with that.. but still doesn't excuse the point of a "Holiday Event" when only certain people can play. Not many are fortunate to afford the Chapter even if it's a "small price" to pay. That's still unfair to many of us, and still can't understand why they put it as a "Holiday Event" because in all honesty it's not festive for some. Other's will argue because they have ALL the DLC's plus the new Chapter. So of course they will argue and be on ESO's side on this and argue they have no problem with the event. If they were on the other side and not having the "Morrowind" Chapter or Imperial DLC.. Then they'd be pretty upset too.

It's just the fact that a lot will be left out ...and in order to complete the event achievements we'd have to pay 35$ (to upgrade) plus the extra either crowns or purchase of the crowns...for Imperial DLC. And when the events over, and you are finally are able to get both, you won't be able to complete it so you'd be stuck with un-earned achievements that could of been avoided. So this event is pretty expensive and unfair. That's what i'm trying to stress, this really isn't a "Holiday Event" more so just a money event for ESO. Not trying to dis ESO because I really do love this game it's so addicting, and I do understand that they need an income, and that eventually many will be getting Morrowind. But just the fact that it's REQUIRED in order to play this so called "Holiday Event" it shouldn't be played that way. All the other "Holiday Events" weren't played that way.. At least when they did the Anniversary for Osirum and for Thieves Guild, they didn't have achievements whether just more so bonuses for playing in the area's, and that I totally understand and agree with. But this so called "Holiday Event" is a bit misleading. lol

That's why I was mentioning making a make shift Battleground and something different for the Imperial District thing, for the "Holiday Event", so it's FAIR to everyone...But I do understanding what you are saying though, I really do. Just isn't fair for a "Holiday Event" with ESO talking about wanting everyone to get together on these event's they create...yet many will be left out. lol Just isn't right, nor fair.

The servers stay up (aka we are able to play the game) by purchasing expansions, dlcs, and subscriptions.

If you willing choose to not help support the future expansion of the game, then why expect to have the game catered to you?

Smokinroses

imnotanother wrote: »

PocketAces13xb wrote: »

If you're a completionist then get Morrowind since you'll need that for all the achievements anyway. If you don't care about missing out on Morrowind achievements then you shouldn't care about missing out on a "holiday event" achievement.

Exactly. Good point.

Smokinroses wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

No offense to anyone but let's use a bit of logic and reasoning to understand why these events require the new material.

DLCs, expansions, etc are all part of "the game." The event uses quest, objectives, missions, to complete achievements in the game.

If you only want to play (buy) half the game, then don't expect to get the full experience like everyone else.

I definitely understand what your meaning, part of me definitely agrees with that.. but still doesn't excuse the point of a "Holiday Event" when only certain people can play. Not many are fortunate to afford the Chapter even if it's a "small price" to pay. That's still unfair to many of us, and still can't understand why they put it as a "Holiday Event" because in all honesty it's not festive for some. Other's will argue because they have ALL the DLC's plus the new Chapter. So of course they will argue and be on ESO's side on this and argue they have no problem with the event. If they were on the other side and not having the "Morrowind" Chapter or Imperial DLC.. Then they'd be pretty upset too.

It's just the fact that a lot will be left out ...and in order to complete the event achievements we'd have to pay 35$ (to upgrade) plus the extra either crowns or purchase of the crowns...for Imperial DLC. And when the events over, and you are finally are able to get both, you won't be able to complete it so you'd be stuck with un-earned achievements that could of been avoided. So this event is pretty expensive and unfair. That's what i'm trying to stress, this really isn't a "Holiday Event" more so just a money event for ESO. Not trying to dis ESO because I really do love this game it's so addicting, and I do understand that they need an income, and that eventually many will be getting Morrowind. But just the fact that it's REQUIRED in order to play this so called "Holiday Event" it shouldn't be played that way. All the other "Holiday Events" weren't played that way.. At least when they did the Anniversary for Osirum and for Thieves Guild, they didn't have achievements whether just more so bonuses for playing in the area's, and that I totally understand and agree with. But this so called "Holiday Event" is a bit misleading. lol

That's why I was mentioning making a make shift Battleground and something different for the Imperial District thing, for the "Holiday Event", so it's FAIR to everyone...But I do understanding what you are saying though, I really do. Just isn't fair for a "Holiday Event" with ESO talking about wanting everyone to get together on these event's they create...yet many will be left out. lol Just isn't right, nor fair.

The servers stay up (aka we are able to play the game) by purchasing expansions, dlcs, and subscriptions.

If you willing choose to not help support the future expansion of the game, then why expect to have the game catered to you?

Lol... Wow, you aren't understanding my point, I'm assuming. Not trying to argue with you as I see your point. Which is understandable, I never said I "Chose" not to support the game. Because I pay for membership lol.. Just stating a fact that in order to play the event.. We have to pay. Just to get the Battleground and the Imperial achievement. Just doesn't seem right/fair when it's a "Holiday Event" is all, or make sense...To all the other players who don't have it, that it's required. lol But since it's not getting anywhere I'll just play the ones I can, and get the collectible item's. Also note that i'm not the only one that's pretty upset with it, and thinking it's really dumb. Even people who have both Chapter and DLC are thinking it's unfair. So you thinking that I was wanting ESO to "Cater" to me...it's really quite funny. I understand ESO caters to the payers, obviously.

apostate9

Lylith wrote: »

i own them both, but it's still a *** move to require them for an event achievement.

Why?

Magdalina

Question because I haven't reviewed it on pts - do these specific achievements mean anything? Are they locking some dyes or titles from you?

Although even if they do....there're HEAPS of titles in Morrowind, also 2 awesome tattoos, a personality, 2 costumes(3 with preorder one), a pet and at least 2 unique furniture pieces. There're also a LOT of achieves, and I mean a lot. And you have to pay to get all of this stuff. No one is forcing you to pay obviously but if you want it you'll have to. The whole chapter/dlc debate aside, they can't exactly release new content for free and/or not provide any achievements concerning it ever just because some people don't buy it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm truly sorry for people who can't afford Morrowind(though I'd say they have bigger issues than being unable to complete a few achievements =x) but why should they limit future events for everyone else because of them?

makerofthings

This event may nudge me into doing some PVP. I expect to get killed.......a lot.

Smokinroses

Magdalina wrote: »

Question because I haven't reviewed it on pts - do these specific achievements mean anything? Are they locking some dyes or titles from you?

Although even if they do....there're HEAPS of titles in Morrowind, also 2 awesome tattoos, a personality, 2 costumes(3 with preorder one), a pet and at least 2 unique furniture pieces. There're also a LOT of achieves, and I mean a lot. And you have to pay to get all of this stuff. No one is forcing you to pay obviously but if you want it you'll have to. The whole chapter/dlc debate aside, they can't exactly release new content for free and/or not provide any achievements concerning it ever just because some people don't buy it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm truly sorry for people who can't afford Morrowind(though I'd say they have bigger issues than being unable to complete a few achievements =x) but why should they limit future events for everyone else because of them?

Well thank you for shedding some sympathy towards the loners lol! But no, by all means I agree with this! Which financially I have other priorities to take care of before purchasing.. But still eventually I will be getting it, just seems way too soon for an event to require such new material. Especially after hearing the Battlegrounds are buggy. But eh, we'll see how things go. lol It's just a tag, and a couple achievements. Still don't seem fair...But it is what it is.

Asardes

makerofthings wrote: »

This event may nudge me into doing some PVP. I expect to get killed.......a lot.

Fortunately, dying in PvP is pretty harmless - you take no damage to your gear and you just respawn at keep/base or camp

Franieck

Do we also gain double XP or only double AP?

Tan9oSuccka

Asardes wrote: »

makerofthings wrote: »

This event may nudge me into doing some PVP. I expect to get killed.......a lot.

Fortunately, dying in PvP is pretty harmless - you take no damage to your gear and you just respawn at keep/base or camp

Yep. Take Ego out of it, pour some drinks and fully expect to get cheesed and usually zerged.

PVP is much more enjoyable and tolerable with beverages.

Saucy_Jack

If it makes any of you feel better, I'm going to be on a research trip from mid-July to mid-August with little to no internet connection, so I'm going to miss the event entirely.

Be happy that you can at least get SOME of the achievements.