DPS Dummy / Target Skeleton Scores?

Ch4mpTW

As much I love questing, I still love practicing builds and rotations by myself with my target skeletons (DPS dummies). And I was wondering what are the goals/standards for each class that a person should aim to reach? This is without someone: Applying Elemental Drain, applying Punctures, standing by wearing Worm's Raiment, etc. Just self-sustained practice.

For example, what is the time and scores I should be aiming for if I were preparing for VHoF or VMoL with my damage dealers? I'll list my 2 classes that I've tested so far, and this results, and I'm curious what I should be tweaking to get better results.

StamDK:


MagSorc:


Edit:
I forgot to mention that I was told previously that in an actual testing that Sorcerers should hit 38k without pets and 40k with pets. And no Lightning Staffs allowed on the back bar (in my test above I used my Lightning Staff on the front bar), as that's "cheating". This of course being in a "proper" testing format with Elemental Drain being applied, someone standing by with Worm's Raiment on, etc.

Edit #2:
So I actually figured out the source of my problem. I wasn't using spell power potions on cooldown. Lmao. Since doing so, I can get 30k+ parses easily. I still have no clue how tf I'm going to hit 40k. But at least I've made significant progress.

FlyLionel

I'd like to know as well, I hit 30k on stam sorc and magsorc(in BSW mind you..) Also @Ch4mpTW gotta lose the VMA one handers bro..I got 27k with em compared to 30k(double daggers of NMG..)

Ch4mpTW

FlyLionel wrote: »

I'd like to know as well, I hit 30k on stam sorc and magsorc(in BSW mind you..) Also @Ch4mpTW gotta lose the VMA one handers bro..I got 27k with em compared to 30k(double daggers of NMG..)

For real? Alright, I'll test it out in a few minutes. Eating currently.

Royaji

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

vMoL on the other hand has a DPS check on every boss. It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer. Also worth noting that vMoL is very melee unfriendly and you won't be able to bring more than 4 melee DDs because of curse on first boss and meteor catching on the last.

Ch4mpTW

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

vMoL on the other hand has a DPS check on every boss. It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer. Also worth noting that vMoL is very melee unfriendly and you won't be able to bring more than 4 melee DDs because of curse on first boss and meteor catching on the last.

That's by yourself? 35k DPS solo?

Royaji

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

vMoL on the other hand has a DPS check on every boss. It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer. Also worth noting that vMoL is very melee unfriendly and you won't be able to bring more than 4 melee DDs because of curse on first boss and meteor catching on the last.

That's by yourself? 35k DPS solo?

With Ele Drain/Pierce Armor and Orbs. Maybe WoE for mag characters. Solo tests give you very little information about viablity in trials. Because there are 11 more people in the trial with you.

Ch4mpTW

Royaji wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

vMoL on the other hand has a DPS check on every boss. It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer. Also worth noting that vMoL is very melee unfriendly and you won't be able to bring more than 4 melee DDs because of curse on first boss and meteor catching on the last.

That's by yourself? 35k DPS solo?

With Ele Drain/Pierce Armor and Orbs. Maybe WoE for mag characters. Solo tests give you very little information about viablity in trials. Because there are 11 more people in the trial with you.

Correct. I understand that. But, if I was just working on rotations and all that jazz solo... What would be considered the score to hit? Or time. Without anyone there to give orbs or Elemental Drain. Without anyone puncturing.

Royaji

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

vMoL on the other hand has a DPS check on every boss. It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer. Also worth noting that vMoL is very melee unfriendly and you won't be able to bring more than 4 melee DDs because of curse on first boss and meteor catching on the last.

That's by yourself? 35k DPS solo?

With Ele Drain/Pierce Armor and Orbs. Maybe WoE for mag characters. Solo tests give you very little information about viablity in trials. Because there are 11 more people in the trial with you.

Correct. I understand that. But, if I was just working on rotations and all that jazz solo... What would be considered the score to hit? Or time. Without anyone there to give orbs or Elemental Drain. Without anyone puncturing.

I would say you are better off changing your bars and slotting ele drain on your mag sorc and noxious breath on your DK for the tests. I would still say you will have to hit 28-30k solo.

Dantaria

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

For example, what is the time and scores I should be aiming for if I were preparing for VHoF or VMoL with my damage dealers? I'll list my 2 classes that I've tested so far, and this results, and I'm curious what I should be tweaking to get better results.

I... What?

You have vMoL skin. You have "Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror" in your title. And you don't know the numbers still?

30k. It's 30k self-buffed.

Royaji wrote: »

It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer.

It's the opposite. In raid you'll have Warhorn, Offbalance, Combat Prayer, etc. 30k self-buffed = 35k+ in raid. Twins are pretty much stationary. Yes, you do need to run if you change color, but it's nothing like running runes on Storm Atronachs, for example. Twins Mechanics do not make you lose DPS.

Also, I'd say the same for vHoF. Yes,

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

this is correct. But healers can't throw Purge and heal whole raid indefinitely. Survivability is paramount, but you still do want to finish it as soon as possible. The longer battle drags, the more difficult it becomes.

Also, don't forget human factor. The longer battle drags, the greater is possibility of mistake. And mistake in HoF costs s**tton.

Ch4mpTW

Dantaria wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

For example, what is the time and scores I should be aiming for if I were preparing for VHoF or VMoL with my damage dealers? I'll list my 2 classes that I've tested so far, and this results, and I'm curious what I should be tweaking to get better results.

I... What?

You have vMoL skin. You have "Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror" in your title. And you don't know the numbers still?

30k. It's 30k self-buffed.

Royaji wrote: »

It's widely accepted that each DD has to pull at least 30k DPS (on a boss, so it would be 35k or so on a dummy) to pass the twins before being overwhelmed by adds and to kill Rakkhat before Lunar Phase because it's pretty much cancer.

It's the opposite. In raid you'll have Warhorn, Offbalance, Combat Prayer, etc. 30k self-buffed = 35k+ in raid. Twins are pretty much stationary. Yes, you do need to run if you change color, but it's nothing like running runes on Storm Atronachs, for example. Twins Mechanics do not make you lose DPS.

Also, I'd say the same for vHoF. Yes,

Royaji wrote: »

vHoF has pretty much no DPS checks at all. It's all about staying alive and doing the mechanics so you should be ok even with those numbers.

this is correct. But healers can't throw Purge and heal whole raid indefinitely. Survivability is paramount, but you still do want to finish it as soon as possible. The longer battle drags, the more difficult it becomes.

Also, don't forget human factor. The longer battle drags, the greater is possibility of mistake. And mistake in HoF costs s**tton.

Correct. I don't know the numbers, because things changed with Morrowind. And I have no idea what the "standards" are anymore. Hence this thread. Also, I'm no longer that heavy in the end-game trial scene. If deep in it at all. Lol. I quit ESO (as in completely uninstalled it) at 1 point, and did my best to forget all about it as I could. And actually I forgot a lot of stuff around and about it. Lol. It's not too important to me. It's important, but not that important. I'm doing these tests for myself, and to gauge myself. That's all. I'm not trying to impress anyone, or tryout for anyone. I merely want to know where I'm at for myself, and what to work-on and practice. That way if I should I ever be asked to tag along in a trial, I'll know that I won't be slacking in the DPS personally. And being at the standard or higher (hopefully).

Just because a bodybuilder doesn't attend conferences and shows anymore, doesn't mean that they don't remain sculpted and regularly practice for competitions. It doesn't mean that they don't do rigorous testing and training to insure that IF they ever choose to hit the stage again — they are looking good.

Dantaria

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Correct. I don't know the numbers, because things changed with Morrowind. And I have no idea what the "standards" are anymore. Hence this thread.

Why would they change? The content wasn't adjusted.

I repeated it countless times on PTS, I'll repeat it now: the DPS checks didn't change. You needed 30k before Morrowind to skip Lunar. You need it now, because the DPS checks didn't change.

There can possibly be no "new standards", because content remains the same. Hitting them became harder, that's all. But trial groups will not lower the mark, because why should they, if... you got it... the content remains unchanged.

And patient RLs who like to teach newbies and "OVERCOME" (c) will still take in 25k and drag the raid kicking and screaming through Lunar.

Nothing changed.

Ch4mpTW

Dantaria wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Correct. I don't know the numbers, because things changed with Morrowind. And I have no idea what the "standards" are anymore. Hence this thread.

Why would they change? The content wasn't adjusted.

I repeated it countless times on PTS, I'll repeat it now: the DPS checks didn't change. You needed 30k before Morrowind to skip Lunar. You need it now, because the DPS checks didn't change.

There can possibly be no "new standards", because content remains the same. Hitting them became harder, that's all. But trial groups will not lower the mark, because why should they, if... you got it... the content remains unchanged.

And patient RLs who like to teach newbies and "OVERCOME" (c) will still take in 25k and drag the raid kicking and screaming through Lunar.

Nothing changed.

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

Izaki

Dantaria wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Correct. I don't know the numbers, because things changed with Morrowind. And I have no idea what the "standards" are anymore. Hence this thread.

Why would they change? The content wasn't adjusted.

I repeated it countless times on PTS, I'll repeat it now: the DPS checks didn't change. You needed 30k before Morrowind to skip Lunar. You need it now, because the DPS checks didn't change.

There can possibly be no "new standards", because content remains the same. Hitting them became harder, that's all. But trial groups will not lower the mark, because why should they, if... you got it... the content remains unchanged.

And patient RLs who like to teach newbies and "OVERCOME" (c) will still take in 25k and drag the raid kicking and screaming through Lunar.

Nothing changed.

As far as I'm aware hitting high numbers hasn't become harder, its become easier for the most part, due to the CP changes.

I mean I could hit 45k on the stamblade with vMA weapons last patch. This patch I'm at 46k.

HatchetHaro

Oh I love posting my stam DK parse. It strokes my ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh8CRr104UY

Plenty of things to improve on with your stam DK; all my info is either in the video or the description.

Ch4mpTW

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Oh I love posting my stam DK parse. It strokes my ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh8CRr104UY

Plenty of things to improve on with your stam DK; all my info is either in the video or the description.

Pretty insightful stuff. Thanks for that. That's the type of information I was searching for. I'll get practicing immediately. And by the way, congratulations on that parse. Very nice.

Giraffon

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

DjMuscleboy02

Dummy parses mean literally nothing. I have seen people put up 40k+ and yet when we get in trials they are dying or I see them spamming shield, away from the boss, etc. 30k on a dummy with excellent time on target is just fine. However, if you're able to keep a rotation up while performing mechanics then you should be able to pull higher on a dummy.

The way I see it, if you're pulling like 30k on a dummy then you probably miss weaves or don't know your rotation well enough. Which means when you throw in dodging mechanics you'll probably spam one button or shield a lot.

Azyle1

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Dummy parses mean literally nothing. I have seen people put up 40k+ and yet when we get in trials they are dying or I see them spamming shield, away from the boss, etc. 30k on a dummy with excellent time on target is just fine. However, if you're able to keep a rotation up while performing mechanics then you should be able to pull higher on a dummy.

The way I see it, if you're pulling like 30k on a dummy then you probably miss weaves or don't know your rotation well enough. Which means when you throw in dodging mechanics you'll probably spam one button or shield a lot.

30k is low?

You realize that likely 85% of the playerbase can barely get above 25K. I have a Stamblade with 2 pc Veli, 5 pc hundings and 5 pc 2 Fang ( some blue jewelry too with the set ) and I do about 27 - 28K on a dummy. This is post patch. I lost 0 dps because I figured out how to play. My Dps is fine for vet trials. Maybe it would be tight for VMoL, but people saying you need 35K + dps I think must be only referring to HM. Because, when you can 4 man a normal Trial (Yes, just normal ,but still ), you know this game is casual and thus you don't need big numbers.

Izaki

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

vMA Dual Wield weapons aren't exactly a top choice this patch. So don't worry about them at all. But you do need the vMA Bow.

dpencil1

Generally, getting between 30-35k solo on the dummy is gonna be fine. More than that is great. Less is not so good.

One thing to consider, though, is computer performance in a raid itself. If your rig is old-ish, you may find major FPS drops when everyone is casting stuff, which can really hurt your dps, since it slows your reaction time way down. High graphics settings and a bunch of addons active make the problem even worse. For me, the only way I'm able to contribute in a meaningful way is basically to turn off all my addons and set all of my graphics to the lowest possible setting.

Giraffon

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

vMA Dual Wield weapons aren't exactly a top choice this patch. So don't worry about them at all. But you do need the vMA Bow.

Me:
..."Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen....I need alternatives."

You:
"...you do need the vMA Bow"

Me:
Not helpful.

HatchetHaro

Giraffon wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

vMA Dual Wield weapons aren't exactly a top choice this patch. So don't worry about them at all. But you do need the vMA Bow.

Me:
..."Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen....I need alternatives."

You:
"...you do need the vMA Bow"

Me:
Not helpful.

The vMA bow is still the best bow in the game, and it's seriously amazing. However, if you don't have that, a Master's bow or any sharpened set bow should work fine.

Izaki

Giraffon wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

vMA Dual Wield weapons aren't exactly a top choice this patch. So don't worry about them at all. But you do need the vMA Bow.

Me:
..."Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen....I need alternatives."

You:
"...you do need the vMA Bow"

Me:
Not helpful.

There are alternatives like the Master's Bow or just a set bow. But your DPS isn't going to be too good. I didn't see you had mentioned 30k, btw. Hitting 30k should be easy and you don't need any BiS gear for that at all

danno8

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

With basic gear (Julainos, Spinners and Grothdar or a couple other head/shoulder) I can get ~30,200 on the test dummy with absolutely no outside help whatsoever on my Magplar.

Azyle1

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

So for someone that doesn't have Vet Maelstrom Arena weapons, what kind of numbers? Is it possible to hit that 30K without them? Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen for me in my lifetime. I need alternatives.

vMA Dual Wield weapons aren't exactly a top choice this patch. So don't worry about them at all. But you do need the vMA Bow.

Me:
..."Cause Vet Maelstrom isn't going to happen....I need alternatives."

You:
"...you do need the vMA Bow"

Me:
Not helpful.

There are alternatives like the Master's Bow or just a set bow. But your DPS isn't going to be too good. I didn't see you had mentioned 30k, btw. Hitting 30k should be easy and you don't need any BiS gear for that at all

I'm being very curious. HOW is 30k easy? 5 Pc hundings, 5 Pc 2 Fang, 2 pc velidreth... 27K - 28K dps is my max. I CANNOT go above that at CP 355.

Giraffon

Oh no! Not this again..."Hitting 30K on a practice dummy is easy, anyone can do it"

While I don't doubt that it can be done, I don't think it's as easy as some of you make it sound. I got into it with some players a couple months ago about this. I challenged anyone to post a build including gear, champion points, and rotations that would get those higher numbers on a practice dummy. Nobody did. One person blew me off to watch a youtube video.

Seriously...if it's SO easy, what's the big secret? If it's SO easy why haven't 10 players shared their builds? I've been playing since Beta. If it was SO easy I would have done it by now through shear dumb luck!

danno8

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Oh I love posting my stam DK parse. It strokes my ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh8CRr104UY

Plenty of things to improve on with your stam DK; all my info is either in the video or the description.

Pretty insightful stuff. Thanks for that. That's the type of information I was searching for. I'll get practicing immediately. And by the way, congratulations on that parse. Very nice.

Just keep in mind he is wearing trials gear, including Vicious Ophidian, Two Fang Snake and vMSA stuff. Nearly all Divines/Sharpened. This is like BiS stuff.

You will not get these parses if you are not already actively completing trials.

Ch4mpTW

I wonder how in the world I'm supposed to hit 40k DPS solo or 38k DPS solo with a pet build. Highest I'm hitting is a 27.8k with some rotation changes I've made.

Ch4mpTW

Giraffon wrote: »

Oh no! Not this again..."Hitting 30K on a practice dummy is easy, anyone can do it"

While I don't doubt that it can be done, I don't think it's as easy as some of you make it sound. I got into it with some players a couple months ago about this. I challenged anyone to post a build including gear, champion points, and rotations that would get those higher numbers on a practice dummy. Nobody did. One person blew me off to watch a youtube video.

Seriously...if it's SO easy, what's the big secret? If it's SO easy why haven't 10 players shared their builds? I've been playing since Beta. If it was SO easy I would have done it by now through shear dumb luck!

I feel this way, to be honest. And mind you, I've beaten VMoL numerous times. As well as VAA-HM and VSO-HM. I'm doing my absolute best, and I'm barely pushing into the 28k range. This is solo mind you on a PetSorc heavy attack build. Gold Moondancer jewelry (with gold spell damage enchantments), Llambris (Heavy and medium in both infused), Necropotence (all infused), sharpened Moondancer Lightning Staff (with spell damage glyph), and Maelstrom's Inferno Staff (Infused and back bar). In other words, I'm basically running a slight variant of the build @Alcast has on his site for a PetSorc.



Incorporating Elemental Drain myself pushed me into the 27k range, but I can't seem to hit 30k. I'm thinking I should use the Twilight morph that does more damage to targets over 50% HP at this point. And try to squeeze in even more light attacks between bar and skill transitions.

Azyle1

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

Oh no! Not this again..."Hitting 30K on a practice dummy is easy, anyone can do it"

While I don't doubt that it can be done, I don't think it's as easy as some of you make it sound. I got into it with some players a couple months ago about this. I challenged anyone to post a build including gear, champion points, and rotations that would get those higher numbers on a practice dummy. Nobody did. One person blew me off to watch a youtube video.

Seriously...if it's SO easy, what's the big secret? If it's SO easy why haven't 10 players shared their builds? I've been playing since Beta. If it was SO easy I would have done it by now through shear dumb luck!

I feel this way, to be honest. And mind you, I've beaten VMoL numerous times. As well as VAA-HM and VSO-HM. I'm doing my absolute best, and I'm barely pushing into the 28k range. This is solo mind you on a PetSorc heavy attack build. Gold Moondancer jewelry (with gold spell damage enchantments), Llambris (Heavy and medium in both infused), Necropotence (all infused), sharpened Moondancer Lightning Staff (with spell damage glyph), and Maelstrom's Inferno Staff (Infused and back bar). In other words, I'm basically running a slight variant of the build @Alcast has on his site for a PetSorc.



Incorporating Elemental Drain myself pushed me into the 27k range, but I can't seem to hit 30k. I'm thinking I should use the Twilight morph that does more damage to targets over 50% HP at this point. And try to squeeze in even more light attacks between bar and skill transitions.

Yeah, I'm hitting 27K with my gear and I can't see how it is "Easy" to be pushing those 30 - 40 K + numbers.

Again, I said it before, most people I know (and whom do trials ad vet trials) do like 20 - 25K dps. Asking for 35K seems absurd. This isn't WoW or FFXIV.

Ch4mpTW

Azyle1 wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

Oh no! Not this again..."Hitting 30K on a practice dummy is easy, anyone can do it"

While I don't doubt that it can be done, I don't think it's as easy as some of you make it sound. I got into it with some players a couple months ago about this. I challenged anyone to post a build including gear, champion points, and rotations that would get those higher numbers on a practice dummy. Nobody did. One person blew me off to watch a youtube video.

Seriously...if it's SO easy, what's the big secret? If it's SO easy why haven't 10 players shared their builds? I've been playing since Beta. If it was SO easy I would have done it by now through shear dumb luck!

I feel this way, to be honest. And mind you, I've beaten VMoL numerous times. As well as VAA-HM and VSO-HM. I'm doing my absolute best, and I'm barely pushing into the 28k range. This is solo mind you on a PetSorc heavy attack build. Gold Moondancer jewelry (with gold spell damage enchantments), Llambris (Heavy and medium in both infused), Necropotence (all infused), sharpened Moondancer Lightning Staff (with spell damage glyph), and Maelstrom's Inferno Staff (Infused and back bar). In other words, I'm basically running a slight variant of the build @Alcast has on his site for a PetSorc.



Incorporating Elemental Drain myself pushed me into the 27k range, but I can't seem to hit 30k. I'm thinking I should use the Twilight morph that does more damage to targets over 50% HP at this point. And try to squeeze in even more light attacks between bar and skill transitions.

Yeah, I'm hitting 27K with my gear and I can't see how it is "Easy" to be pushing those 30 - 40 K + numbers.

Again, I said it before, most people I know (and whom do trials ad vet trials) do like 20 - 25K dps. Asking for 35K seems absurd. This isn't WoW or FFXIV.

@Azyle1 I was told actually by an ex-GM that the mandatory standard of PetSorcs in a "proper" DPS testing environment is actually 40k minimum. As that's the baseline the top 3 end-game trial guilds on PS4-NA are requiring to be considered trial material. If you're not running pets, it's mandatory that you hit 38k. Even though I'm not trying out for these guilds, I still would like to be on par with them for my personal comfort and reasons. Like I said previously, if I ever get into a situation where I'm invited to do some veteran trials? I want to be able to know personally that my DPS isn't slacking. And that I'm able to keep up with the best of them. You know? I want to be able to join up with folks, and do my job. And not feel like, "Damn, my DPS is horrible." low key.