PvP Builds for Morrowind?

Gonk714

Hello everyone I've been looking everywhere for an optimal build for PvP but I can't find anything that interests me.
I'm a Khajit Stamblade using 2H / Bow & DW / Bow, also a Dark Elf Magblade.
1st Question: Pros and Cons of DW + Bow & 2H + Bow?
2nd Question: What are optimal builds for morrowind for a Bombblade & Stamblade using 2H / Bow & DW / Bow for the stamblade.
3rd Question: I'm new to PvP and heard Bombblades are fun and that they're also good for PvE over a stamblade is this true?
4th Question: BiS for all 3 options please, (Don't have access to maelstrom)
5th Question: CP Allocation & Front and Back bar for all 3.
Too whoever takes the time to guide me in the right direction I just want to say thank you, and appreciate you helping a noob.

TheRealSniker

I dont know about MagBlades, gonna give you a few ideas about StamBlade tho

1.) Dual Wield hits harder due to its passives and the amount of extra weapon Damage you get, you are going to lose the Rally heal which might be crucial to your survivability sometimes. 2H doesnt hit as hard but it has a more reliable(in my opinion) Execute and the Rally heal, also the Execute animation on 2H is a bit longer than Killers Blade and doesnt hit as hard at 25% HP.

2.) Optimal build for a StamBlade right now is 5 Vipers, 5 ShadowWalker or Clever Alchemist or Eternal Hunt and 2 Selenes or Velidreth

3.) Bombblades are cheese, myself I enjoy my StamBlade way more, MagBlade gets boring after the few times you ganked a zerg

4.) There is no BiS for PvP, BiS depends on your Playstyle and for example I know that Eternal Hunt might be better in duels, yet personally Clever Alchemist suits my Playstyle way better and makes me play better.
Go on try new Sets and see what you want your StamBlade to really be! I also highly encourage you to try Spriggans!

5.) For the Blue Tree I personally go 70 Master at Arms, 70 Mighty, 40 Precise Strikes and either 30 Piercing, if you want to run Spriggans you could put the last 30 somewhere else.
Green: 70 Mooncalf, 70 Tenacity, 30 Befoul, 20 Warlord, 20 Tumbling
Red: 50 Elemental Defender, 50 Hardy, 70 Ironclad and 40 Medium Armor Focus

Gonk714

TheRealSniker wrote: »

I dont know about MagBlades, gonna give you a few ideas about StamBlade tho

1.) Dual Wield hits harder due to its passives and the amount of extra weapon Damage you get, you are going to lose the Rally heal which might be crucial to your survivability sometimes. 2H doesnt hit as hard but it has a more reliable(in my opinion) Execute and the Rally heal, also the Execute animation on 2H is a bit longer than Killers Blade and doesnt hit as hard at 25% HP.

2.) Optimal build for a StamBlade right now is 5 Vipers, 5 ShadowWalker or Clever Alchemist or Eternal Hunt and 2 Selenes or Velidreth

3.) Bombblades are cheese, myself I enjoy my StamBlade way more, MagBlade gets boring after the few times you ganked a zerg

4.) There is no BiS for PvP, BiS depends on your Playstyle and for example I know that Eternal Hunt might be better in duels, yet personally Clever Alchemist suits my Playstyle way better and makes me play better.
Go on try new Sets and see what you want your StamBlade to really be! I also highly encourage you to try Spriggans!

5.) For the Blue Tree I personally go 70 Master at Arms, 70 Mighty, 40 Precise Strikes and either 30 Piercing, if you want to run Spriggans you could put the last 30 somewhere else.
Green: 70 Mooncalf, 70 Tenacity, 30 Befoul, 20 Warlord, 20 Tumbling
Red: 50 Elemental Defender, 50 Hardy, 70 Ironclad and 40 Medium Armor Focus

Thanks for the detailed response.
1. I've heard a lot of people say 2H is way better than duel wield for PvP Is this true? Or now that morrowind has been released is this different?
2. So what exactly would I be getting? I.E. if I DW I would have 13 slots right? What would I put in each slot?
3. Are the new sets from morrowind any good for PvP?
4. What would I put on my front and back bars? Like I.E. Bow Bar endless hail ETC. Also what ultinates?
5. Clever Alchemist is a crafted set right? I think the effect has something to do with a portion too, what potion would I be drinking while I use this?
6. Thanks for the help by the way I appreicate your feedback.

thankyourat

If you want to go dual weild you will have to go duel weild/2hand and give up your bow. Vigor will not be enough to keep you alive.

For a bombblade i would run 5 vicious death, 5 clever alchamist, 2 grathdarr, shadow mundus all divines.

For a more versatile magblade build i would run 5 trasmutation, 5 war maiden or spinners, and 2 skoria or bloodspawn if you want to be more tanky (engine guardian is really good as well)

Gonk714

Would DW + Bow be a better combo or is 2H + Bow better? I wanna go for a heavy dot build so just incase when I go all in and gank they don't die the poison will get them killed or low enough so I can execute & KO.

Drakkdjinn

There really haven't been too many changes to PvP builds this expac, since PvP is an afterthought by the devs. Just look up old builds if you can't find any "morrowind" ones you like and add in some sustain utility and you're good to go.

Gonk714

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

There really haven't been too many changes to PvP builds this expac, since PvP is an afterthought by the devs. Just look up old builds if you can't find any "morrowind" ones you like and add in some sustain utility and you're good to go.

Mostly just came here for opinions from veterans im fairly new to the game so haven't been really touching PvP wanna see what seasoned players are running on there stamblades.

TheRealSniker

Gonk714 wrote: »

TheRealSniker wrote: »

I dont know about MagBlades, gonna give you a few ideas about StamBlade tho

1.) Dual Wield hits harder due to its passives and the amount of extra weapon Damage you get, you are going to lose the Rally heal which might be crucial to your survivability sometimes. 2H doesnt hit as hard but it has a more reliable(in my opinion) Execute and the Rally heal, also the Execute animation on 2H is a bit longer than Killers Blade and doesnt hit as hard at 25% HP.

2.) Optimal build for a StamBlade right now is 5 Vipers, 5 ShadowWalker or Clever Alchemist or Eternal Hunt and 2 Selenes or Velidreth

3.) Bombblades are cheese, myself I enjoy my StamBlade way more, MagBlade gets boring after the few times you ganked a zerg

4.) There is no BiS for PvP, BiS depends on your Playstyle and for example I know that Eternal Hunt might be better in duels, yet personally Clever Alchemist suits my Playstyle way better and makes me play better.
Go on try new Sets and see what you want your StamBlade to really be! I also highly encourage you to try Spriggans!

5.) For the Blue Tree I personally go 70 Master at Arms, 70 Mighty, 40 Precise Strikes and either 30 Piercing, if you want to run Spriggans you could put the last 30 somewhere else.
Green: 70 Mooncalf, 70 Tenacity, 30 Befoul, 20 Warlord, 20 Tumbling
Red: 50 Elemental Defender, 50 Hardy, 70 Ironclad and 40 Medium Armor Focus

Thanks for the detailed response.
1. I've heard a lot of people say 2H is way better than duel wield for PvP Is this true? Or now that morrowind has been released is this different?
2. So what exactly would I be getting? I.E. if I DW I would have 13 slots right? What would I put in each slot?
3. Are the new sets from morrowind any good for PvP?
4. What would I put on my front and back bars? Like I.E. Bow Bar endless hail ETC. Also what ultinates?
5. Clever Alchemist is a crafted set right? I think the effect has something to do with a portion too, what potion would I be drinking while I use this?
6. Thanks for the help by the way I appreicate your feedback.

1.) Its not way better, it has its pros and cons as said, good player can utilize the higher damage output of Dual Wield and still survive without Rally. Morrowind patch didnt change much besides that Our Resource managment got harder!

2.) if you decide to run dual wield then running Bone pirate with either Spriggans or viper would be a great idea. You would put bone pirate on your armor so its always active(so you dont lose your stamina) and spriggans/vipers on your weapons since youll only need those effects when you attack your enemy.

3.) You could try using Assassins Guile with some Draining poisons, could work out really good. You could also try out Shacklebraker since for the sustain. None of the sets ive mentioned have been used and utilized to its best performance though, means that it isnt confirmed that they are any good.

4.) On your frontbar youll always run surprise attack, ambush and Mass hysteria, those 3 skills will be your main focus in the battlefield. Surprise Attack is the biggest Damage output in the game, due to the ability to spam it and not lose many resources. Mass hysteria is the best CC ability because it can break through shields. Ambush is arguably the best gapcloser in the game because you teleport(means even if youre snared you can use it) to the enemy, snare him and gain an empower!
Incap strike(assassination tree ult) is an ability you would want to utilize to its best since it does big damage and reduces your targets healing, people usually use it after they use mass hysteria on an enemy.
After all those skills the last 2 are optional, I like to run executioner and Rally in PvP though.

Backbar you usually run vigor, shuffle, poison injection and shadowy disguise.

5.) I like to use Immovability Potions, the ones that give you unstoppable effect + stamina recovery

6.) youre welcome :P

Gonk714

TheRealSniker wrote: »

Gonk714 wrote: »

TheRealSniker wrote: »

I dont know about MagBlades, gonna give you a few ideas about StamBlade tho

1.) Dual Wield hits harder due to its passives and the amount of extra weapon Damage you get, you are going to lose the Rally heal which might be crucial to your survivability sometimes. 2H doesnt hit as hard but it has a more reliable(in my opinion) Execute and the Rally heal, also the Execute animation on 2H is a bit longer than Killers Blade and doesnt hit as hard at 25% HP.

2.) Optimal build for a StamBlade right now is 5 Vipers, 5 ShadowWalker or Clever Alchemist or Eternal Hunt and 2 Selenes or Velidreth

3.) Bombblades are cheese, myself I enjoy my StamBlade way more, MagBlade gets boring after the few times you ganked a zerg

4.) There is no BiS for PvP, BiS depends on your Playstyle and for example I know that Eternal Hunt might be better in duels, yet personally Clever Alchemist suits my Playstyle way better and makes me play better.
Go on try new Sets and see what you want your StamBlade to really be! I also highly encourage you to try Spriggans!

5.) For the Blue Tree I personally go 70 Master at Arms, 70 Mighty, 40 Precise Strikes and either 30 Piercing, if you want to run Spriggans you could put the last 30 somewhere else.
Green: 70 Mooncalf, 70 Tenacity, 30 Befoul, 20 Warlord, 20 Tumbling
Red: 50 Elemental Defender, 50 Hardy, 70 Ironclad and 40 Medium Armor Focus

Thanks for the detailed response.
1. I've heard a lot of people say 2H is way better than duel wield for PvP Is this true? Or now that morrowind has been released is this different?
2. So what exactly would I be getting? I.E. if I DW I would have 13 slots right? What would I put in each slot?
3. Are the new sets from morrowind any good for PvP?
4. What would I put on my front and back bars? Like I.E. Bow Bar endless hail ETC. Also what ultinates?
5. Clever Alchemist is a crafted set right? I think the effect has something to do with a portion too, what potion would I be drinking while I use this?
6. Thanks for the help by the way I appreicate your feedback.

1.) Its not way better, it has its pros and cons as said, good player can utilize the higher damage output of Dual Wield and still survive without Rally. Morrowind patch didnt change much besides that Our Resource managment got harder!

2.) if you decide to run dual wield then running Bone pirate with either Spriggans or viper would be a great idea. You would put bone pirate on your armor so its always active(so you dont lose your stamina) and spriggans/vipers on your weapons since youll only need those effects when you attack your enemy.

3.) You could try using Assassins Guile with some Draining poisons, could work out really good. You could also try out Shacklebraker since for the sustain. None of the sets ive mentioned have been used and utilized to its best performance though, means that it isnt confirmed that they are any good.

4.) On your frontbar youll always run surprise attack, ambush and Mass hysteria, those 3 skills will be your main focus in the battlefield. Surprise Attack is the biggest Damage output in the game, due to the ability to spam it and not lose many resources. Mass hysteria is the best CC ability because it can break through shields. Ambush is arguably the best gapcloser in the game because you teleport(means even if youre snared you can use it) to the enemy, snare him and gain an empower!
Incap strike(assassination tree ult) is an ability you would want to utilize to its best since it does big damage and reduces your targets healing, people usually use it after they use mass hysteria on an enemy.
After all those skills the last 2 are optional, I like to run executioner and Rally in PvP though.

Backbar you usually run vigor, shuffle, poison injection and shadowy disguise.

5.) I like to use Immovability Potions, the ones that give you unstoppable effect + stamina recovery

6.) youre welcome :P

So 5 Set BP, 5 Set Viper, & 2 set selenes or velidreth? And one piece of heavy right doesn't matter what? What about traits, enchants for weapons? Also, what if I wanna do 2H + Bow what sets would I run for that & front and back bars?

Gonk714

TheRealSniker wrote: »

Gonk714 wrote: »

TheRealSniker wrote: »

I dont know about MagBlades, gonna give you a few ideas about StamBlade tho

1.) Dual Wield hits harder due to its passives and the amount of extra weapon Damage you get, you are going to lose the Rally heal which might be crucial to your survivability sometimes. 2H doesnt hit as hard but it has a more reliable(in my opinion) Execute and the Rally heal, also the Execute animation on 2H is a bit longer than Killers Blade and doesnt hit as hard at 25% HP.

2.) Optimal build for a StamBlade right now is 5 Vipers, 5 ShadowWalker or Clever Alchemist or Eternal Hunt and 2 Selenes or Velidreth

3.) Bombblades are cheese, myself I enjoy my StamBlade way more, MagBlade gets boring after the few times you ganked a zerg

4.) There is no BiS for PvP, BiS depends on your Playstyle and for example I know that Eternal Hunt might be better in duels, yet personally Clever Alchemist suits my Playstyle way better and makes me play better.
Go on try new Sets and see what you want your StamBlade to really be! I also highly encourage you to try Spriggans!

5.) For the Blue Tree I personally go 70 Master at Arms, 70 Mighty, 40 Precise Strikes and either 30 Piercing, if you want to run Spriggans you could put the last 30 somewhere else.
Green: 70 Mooncalf, 70 Tenacity, 30 Befoul, 20 Warlord, 20 Tumbling
Red: 50 Elemental Defender, 50 Hardy, 70 Ironclad and 40 Medium Armor Focus

Thanks for the detailed response.
1. I've heard a lot of people say 2H is way better than duel wield for PvP Is this true? Or now that morrowind has been released is this different?
2. So what exactly would I be getting? I.E. if I DW I would have 13 slots right? What would I put in each slot?
3. Are the new sets from morrowind any good for PvP?
4. What would I put on my front and back bars? Like I.E. Bow Bar endless hail ETC. Also what ultinates?
5. Clever Alchemist is a crafted set right? I think the effect has something to do with a portion too, what potion would I be drinking while I use this?
6. Thanks for the help by the way I appreicate your feedback.

1.) Its not way better, it has its pros and cons as said, good player can utilize the higher damage output of Dual Wield and still survive without Rally. Morrowind patch didnt change much besides that Our Resource managment got harder!

2.) if you decide to run dual wield then running Bone pirate with either Spriggans or viper would be a great idea. You would put bone pirate on your armor so its always active(so you dont lose your stamina) and spriggans/vipers on your weapons since youll only need those effects when you attack your enemy.

3.) You could try using Assassins Guile with some Draining poisons, could work out really good. You could also try out Shacklebraker since for the sustain. None of the sets ive mentioned have been used and utilized to its best performance though, means that it isnt confirmed that they are any good.

4.) On your frontbar youll always run surprise attack, ambush and Mass hysteria, those 3 skills will be your main focus in the battlefield. Surprise Attack is the biggest Damage output in the game, due to the ability to spam it and not lose many resources. Mass hysteria is the best CC ability because it can break through shields. Ambush is arguably the best gapcloser in the game because you teleport(means even if youre snared you can use it) to the enemy, snare him and gain an empower!
Incap strike(assassination tree ult) is an ability you would want to utilize to its best since it does big damage and reduces your targets healing, people usually use it after they use mass hysteria on an enemy.
After all those skills the last 2 are optional, I like to run executioner and Rally in PvP though.

Backbar you usually run vigor, shuffle, poison injection and shadowy disguise.

5.) I like to use Immovability Potions, the ones that give you unstoppable effect + stamina recovery

6.) youre welcome :P

Why poison over venom arrow?
So once again I'm going to be using 2H & Bow so what 11 items should I have including jewelry? What about food? Should I use a potion or food when using 2H + Bow. I wanna primarily use 2H and get accustomed to DW & 2H once I have mastered 2H & Bow, what 13 items should I use for that and what food or potion as well. Also what about CP I'm 200 CP so what should I put my points into? Once again thanks for your help!

raasdal

On my Stamblade i am doing healthregen, since that is my thing;

5 x Viper (Jewlery + Weps)
5 x Green Pact (Body)
2 x Selene

6/1/0

Orzorgas Gold Food (important).
Steed Mundus
All health regen glyphs on Jewelry.

DW / Whatever you want to use. 2H or Bow, depending on preference.

You will be sitting at 3k Health Recovery, which is enough for no one being able to kill you in a 1v1, unless you make a mistake. Against pugs you are invincible. It does however center around Heavy Attacking alot.

Try it. It's good fun.

Gonk714

raasdal wrote: »

On my Stamblade i am doing healthregen, since that is my thing;

5 x Viper (Jewlery + Weps)
5 x Green Pact (Body)
2 x Selene

6/1/0

Orzorgas Gold Food (important).
Steed Mundus
All health regen glyphs on Jewelry.

DW / Whatever you want to use. 2H or Bow, depending on preference.

You will be sitting at 3k Health Recovery, which is enough for no one being able to kill you in a 1v1, unless you make a mistake. Against pugs you are invincible. It does however center around Heavy Attacking alot.

Try it. It's good fun.

Sounds interesting, what do you put on your front and back bars? Like what skills do you use?

Drakkdjinn

Gonk714 wrote: »

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

There really haven't been too many changes to PvP builds this expac, since PvP is an afterthought by the devs. Just look up old builds if you can't find any "morrowind" ones you like and add in some sustain utility and you're good to go.

Mostly just came here for opinions from veterans im fairly new to the game so haven't been really touching PvP wanna see what seasoned players are running on there stamblades.

I'm a veteran, that is my opinion: "Google it, then try it"

Pdl123

Any one have a cp input for dps magplar cp allocation dual weild and destro or resto on back bar for pvp i run julianos 5pc 5 piece rattle cage front bar valkyn or grothgar