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PvP in general with this patch

Miswar
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The update has been out for more than a day now. The PvP in PS4 EU seems like Sahara desert.

Before the patch there was over 1100 guild mates in Thornblade (7 day / CP). Now most populated seems Vivec with180 guild mates registered. Rest are far beyond that with lowest been 30 no CP campaign with grand total of 8 guild mates registered.

Checked with guild rosters and it an small % of those missing are levelling Wardens nor Battlegrounds.

I'am member of 2 large PvP guild oriented there and would 75% people are far from happy with how things are for below reasons:

* I guess the idea was to get rid off HEAVY armour builds but guess what heavy armour is still the thing. Actually they seem to be even harder to kill than before due the overall damage been lower than before.

* Magica characters seem to be screwed way more than stamina ones. It seems Nightblades, Stam Sorcs and Stamplars seem to be pretty much only ones that can burst. There was a lot of talk that magic sorts would be the main thing in PvP. Will tell you a secret they aren't and it is all myth.

* Have talked to a lot of PvP players as said magic Dk players are very unhappy campers.

* Also whoever idea was to get rid off 7 day CP campaign in PS4 EU... well good job indeed.

I don't have the Morrowind upgrade since decided to hold out but can say that BG seems utterly broken with it's que problems etc. Many stating last night was ernough of that.

Also the sales with traders seem to have dwindled quite a lot as well due not that players on at the moment and Pve areas do not seem populated. At least not outside of Vardenfell.

Take this as an feedback but also tell you what ZoS... maybe you actually should take paying customers views more seriously????

I'am mostly PvP player and believe me many of those players are not happy campers at the moment.

You really need to start doing some damage control in order to sort this mess out that you created with your own doings and maybe start thinking replacing people that ever came up with this nonsense improvements.

The PS4 NA seemed to be far better off compared and PS4 EU seemed like desert.
  • Kay1
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    The reason no one is online is because the majority of people don't have good Internet, and a 28GB download with the most common speed connection that is 200 kbps will take 4 days to complete on a console :/

    A friend of mine from Egypt have to wait 2 days before playing the game.

    * I guess the idea was to get rid off HEAVY armour builds but guess what heavy armour is still the thing. Actually they seem to be even harder to kill than before due the overall damage been lower than before.

    Heavy is currently trash for all the classes but Stamsorc and MagDK and you're wrong, this patch our damage has been increased by a looooooot in PvP due to the new passive, I've been playing non stop yesterday on PS4 EU and I've fought maybe 10 guys in Heavy, after 2 mass Hysteria they couldn't break CC anymore.

    * Magica characters seem to be screwed way more than stamina ones. It seems Nightblades, Stam Sorcs and Stamplars seem to be pretty much only ones that can burst. There was a lot of talk that magic sorts would be the main thing in PvP. Will tell you a secret they aren't and it is all myth.

    MagSorc and MagTemp are still overperforming at damage burst, especially Templars, if you are on PS4 EU you must know my clan mates Joker and Bainzy, Joker once burst a max cp tank for 38k damage in 3 seconds and Bainzy can gank people from stealth with just 3 attacks as a Magplar lol.

    * Have talked to a lot of PvP players as said magic Dk players are very unhappy campers.

    I don't know why they should be unhappy, they are dealing more damage while having more sustain than before and now they can wear Light and Heavy sacrificing only health over damage.

    * Also whoever idea was to get rid off 7 day CP campaign in PS4 EU... well good job indeed.

    I guess we all hate that stupid cornflake who thought people enjoy playing in no CP, yes everyone do, thats why the CP campaigns are FULL while the no CP one don't even have 5 people inside.

    I recommend you to just enjoy PvP for those few days before all the zergs from both Thornblade and Haderus gets into Vivec, I can't wait for this Saturday to have 7 system software error, 9 game crash and 2 fps even far from the zergs.
    K1 The Big Monkey
  • Miswar
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    The internet is actually one thing but still have my doubts that PvP will get anywhere near what is was before patch.

    Did not say that all are unhappy but many are. Personally still trying to be neutral as I can be but am I exited about these changes or such. No... not at all... and hearing stuff that many are considering taking a break from game, some thinking about NA since it seems to far better off.

    Not good talk to anyone involved in PS4 EU no matter what alliance you are at... and actually hard to even get group going with PvP crews atm.. and many of these have downloaded the patch.

    Anyways they really should take very hard look and discuss with people that do play the game.

    As for heavy armour.. well have to say disagree with you though. Try checking crew with a lot of heavy armours with heavy armour healers. Unless negated they are worse than before.

    I guess the 1 thing we can agree is that we hope PvP gets better.. hope I'am wrong but concerned... very much so.
  • Zvorgin
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    Hopefully we get a 7 day CP campaign added. On PS4 NA, the CP campaign had a decent population, the others were all completely barren. I don't see the appeal of having CP in PvE and none in PvP.
  • grim_tactics
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    I noticed that Cyrodiil on PS4 NA wasn't popped locked hardly at all but I just figured a good bit of people were just messing around in BGs and/or checking out the new content.
  • Kay1
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    Yeah, I was maybe lucky and I didn't had to fight the famous cancerplar in EU, I don't wanna scare you but in the Battleground PTS I got matched with a Cancerplar who was able to perma spam breath of life while having 25k health :/

    I hooe he never make a build video :D
    K1 The Big Monkey
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    @the OP....

    You are dead wrong about Heavy Armor; its not Meta anymore...


    I've run into two types of Heavy Armor users since Morrowind:

    1) those with damage, but the sustain of a 90 year old thats already out of breath...
    2) those with sustain, but the damage output of a frail 60 pound woman...


    I'm ok with both types...

    The 1st is an easy kill once he's out of resources

    The 2nd is a mobile ultimate generator; once I've built up my ultimate, I just leave him alone...


    Cheers!

    :)
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  • Moglijuana
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    Miswar wrote: »
    The update has been out for more than a day now. The PvP in PS4 EU seems like Sahara desert.

    Before the patch there was over 1100 guild mates in Thornblade (7 day / CP). Now most populated seems Vivec with180 guild mates registered. Rest are far beyond that with lowest been 30 no CP campaign with grand total of 8 guild mates registered.

    Checked with guild rosters and it an small % of those missing are levelling Wardens nor Battlegrounds.

    I'am member of 2 large PvP guild oriented there and would 75% people are far from happy with how things are for below reasons:

    * I guess the idea was to get rid off HEAVY armour builds but guess what heavy armour is still the thing. Actually they seem to be even harder to kill than before due the overall damage been lower than before.

    * Magica characters seem to be screwed way more than stamina ones. It seems Nightblades, Stam Sorcs and Stamplars seem to be pretty much only ones that can burst. There was a lot of talk that magic sorts would be the main thing in PvP. Will tell you a secret they aren't and it is all myth.

    * Have talked to a lot of PvP players as said magic Dk players are very unhappy campers.

    * Also whoever idea was to get rid off 7 day CP campaign in PS4 EU... well good job indeed.

    I don't have the Morrowind upgrade since decided to hold out but can say that BG seems utterly broken with it's que problems etc. Many stating last night was ernough of that.

    Also the sales with traders seem to have dwindled quite a lot as well due not that players on at the moment and Pve areas do not seem populated. At least not outside of Vardenfell.

    Take this as an feedback but also tell you what ZoS... maybe you actually should take paying customers views more seriously????

    I'am mostly PvP player and believe me many of those players are not happy campers at the moment.

    You really need to start doing some damage control in order to sort this mess out that you created with your own doings and maybe start thinking replacing people that ever came up with this nonsense improvements.

    The PS4 NA seemed to be far better off compared and PS4 EU seemed like desert.

    I'll hit some of your key points...

    1. My damage went up actually...I've had no issues killing ppl in heavy, just takes a bit longer.
    2. Lol. No. It seems to be pretty even atm. Stam may seem stronger bc of proc sets, but the Mag Burst is still real.
    3. Those mag dks should uninstall or re roll then bc MagDK is currently strong af.
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  • revonine
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    Idk the exact numbers or what is going on exactly (maybe the new master at arms passive?) but I feel like I'm doing more damage than last patch even after sacrificing alot and changing my builds around for more sustain. 5 shackle, 5 bone pirate, 2 regen glyphs 1 weapon damage and I'm bursting people down quite easily.

    Any heavy armor user I've encountered since morrowind dropped in (battle grounds or Vivic) rarely has enough stamina to break after a third CC. At that point especially in battlegrounds, they are dead. Stamina is crazy strong in battlegrounds thanks to proc sets. I absolutely demolish people with a CC, surprise attack, light attack, viper proc, selene proc, killers blade and they never have a chance to even react. It's broken and needs fixing.

    Vivic was hopping earlier today. Two major triple faction battles at chalman and roebeck. Though it dropped off alot after the failed yellow emp push and after DC crowned emp.
    Edited by revonine on June 7, 2017 5:39PM
  • Miswar
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    Zos you might as well check if the PS4 Eu population counter is suprisingly broken as well.

    It shows between 3 to 2 bars and can vouch that not many people are on or they are invisible.

    Or did your PvP team nerf those counters as well?

    The amount of action is making sleepy. Yes pretty much nothing happening at all.
  • t3hdubzy
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    Sorc still seem op to me

    My Magdk has to be reworked, and i dont have the time and patience to grind new gear. I was getting hit with 10k this and 13k that but my strongest attacks are capped at 6k

    My stamblade is doing ok against afk players, ganking them is easy. In a group setting, i can x v 1 people pretty easy. 1v1 is tough, im winning some battles but it feels uphill every time. Lots of line of sighting. Resource mgmt is fine so far.

    And pvp in no cp is dead so far in ps4 na. Im not even gonna try that.
  • connectedb16_ESO
    just came back to game and dont know whats changed.
    So is magic DK with heavy armor ok now?

    If not il have to level my stamina night blade

    I was in my first BG and it felt really fun, not sure I did that high damage, but I only have 50 blues..
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