stamina templar 30k+ solo dps build setup

Ep1kMalware

Deleted, tired of arguing with morons. Check out alcast instead.

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Malmai

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ok guys, I've just done some testinf on my stamina templar, and while ,y dps is slightly lower due to some recent changes I was still able to log in amd parse 30k right off the bat. Now I do have some gear to get that may push my dps significantly higher than premorrowind, and that will be my dirty little secret, my old homestead setup will work out well for you.

I am running alcast setup, with some minor tweaks into the red tree, mostly some more points into quick recovery, the damage cp is exactly how he posted for now.

My gear:
2x kragh
5x spriggans
3x vo
Precise maelstrom dagger/sharp maelstrom axe
sharpened maelstrom's bow

The rotation is very very important that skills are uses in the correct order. Caltrops are not used as it is a dps loss in single target fights. You can argue all you want, but trust me on this, your dps will be lower every time.

My bar setups:
Bow
Endless hail/repentence/vigor/poison injection/potl/ crescent sweeps
Dw
Bloodcraze/restoring focus/rearming trap/flurry/biting jabs/rend

For raids you want to slot repentence for shards, since the synergy returns to the caster. For certain fights you might want quick cloak on instead of bloodcraze (rhakkat for example).

Now for the rotation on dps dummy, I start with trap on my dw bar, bar swap, endless hail, potl, poison inject, bar swap.

Then we move onto the actual dps rotation. First rotation includes an ultimate, so we'll use 1 less spammable. Additionally, we already applied trap, so we'll skip it.

Flurry/bloodcraze/light attack/flurry/rend/heavy attack/ 1x jabs

Now that we're all buffed up and our ultimate is out, we will continue onto our rotation until we get another ult. Before you swap to your bow bar, begin with flurry, so it'll look like:

Flurry/barhop/endless hail/light attack/potl/poison injection/bar hop

Always barhop after poison injection. Now the dw bar:

Flurry/trap/light attack/bloodcraze/heavy attack/jabs x2/flurry

And repeat with endless hail. You can barswap halfway through the final flurry on dw bar. please notice, that this setup is a slight modification of my homestead setup, amd zi have much bigger plans for my templar. But this should allow you to get pretty decent dps. If you die in a fight, simply replace jabs with heavy attacks and you'll be on your feet in no time.


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Use TFS and caltrops please...

Ep1kMalware

Malmai wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ok guys, I've just done some testinf on my stamina templar, and while ,y dps is slightly lower due to some recent changes I was still able to log in amd parse 30k right off the bat. Now I do have some gear to get that may push my dps significantly higher than premorrowind, and that will be my dirty little secret, my old homestead setup will work out well for you.

I am running alcast setup, with some minor tweaks into the red tree, mostly some more points into quick recovery, the damage cp is exactly how he posted for now.

My gear:
2x kragh
5x spriggans
3x vo
Precise maelstrom dagger/sharp maelstrom axe
sharpened maelstrom's bow

The rotation is very very important that skills are uses in the correct order. Caltrops are not used as it is a dps loss in single target fights. You can argue all you want, but trust me on this, your dps will be lower every time.

My bar setups:
Bow
Endless hail/repentence/vigor/poison injection/potl/ crescent sweeps
Dw
Bloodcraze/restoring focus/rearming trap/flurry/biting jabs/rend

For raids you want to slot repentence for shards, since the synergy returns to the caster. For certain fights you might want quick cloak on instead of bloodcraze (rhakkat for example).

Now for the rotation on dps dummy, I start with trap on my dw bar, bar swap, endless hail, potl, poison inject, bar swap.

Then we move onto the actual dps rotation. First rotation includes an ultimate, so we'll use 1 less spammable. Additionally, we already applied trap, so we'll skip it.

Flurry/bloodcraze/light attack/flurry/rend/heavy attack/ 1x jabs

Now that we're all buffed up and our ultimate is out, we will continue onto our rotation until we get another ult. Before you swap to your bow bar, begin with flurry, so it'll look like:

Flurry/barhop/endless hail/light attack/potl/poison injection/bar hop

Always barhop after poison injection. Now the dw bar:

Flurry/trap/light attack/bloodcraze/heavy attack/jabs x2/flurry

And repeat with endless hail. You can barswap halfway through the final flurry on dw bar. please notice, that this setup is a slight modification of my homestead setup, amd zi have much bigger plans for my templar. But this should allow you to get pretty decent dps. If you die in a fight, simply replace jabs with heavy attacks and you'll be on your feet in no time.


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Use TFS and caltrops please...

Tfs wont drop and caltrops won't help you on st fights or passing dps test for your guild. Don't correct me plz.

GiuEliN0

uhm normally, caltrops is my 3° or 4° skill for damage in combat metrics, fighting the skelly for testing. So, yes its important in ST, dont understimate it.

Ep1kMalware

GiuEliN0 wrote: »

uhm normally, caltrops is my 3° or 4° skill for damage in combat metrics, fighting the skelly for testing. So, yes its important in ST, dont understimate it.

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without. I'd also have to drop my sustain or potl for it. It has many, many, many viable uses on my bar, but is not at all necessary and often times kind of a loss. You should only use it in trash fights.

Ep1kMalware

I'm legit not getting into the caltrops arguement for the billionth time, stop usimg it, watch dps skyrocket. This is not a stam nb build. This is not a vma build. This is my personal setup with the gear I was able to aquire pre morrowind with dps score of 44k (only fracture). It still works alright, take it for face value, but I'm not getting into arguments that I've tested over, amd over, amd over. THE END

modaretto

For this patch i recommend this build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/bythebeardofzeus-stamplar-dps-guide-morrowind-edition-vhof-approved/

It's a stamplar that we have in our raids and performs very well. The build is described in great details and I'm sure if you have more questions he will help out.

Edit: not to hijack your post or build but show that it's possible to go over 30k this patch

Ep1kMalware

modaretto wrote: »

For this patch i recommend this build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/bythebeardofzeus-stamplar-dps-guide-morrowind-edition-vhof-approved/

It's a stamplar that we have in our raids and performs very well. The build is described in great details and I'm sure if you have more questions he will help out

I've tested alot of that setup and have major problem with it, but it's stable build. I would drop veli though. Moving some points into quick recovery will be a better option as well.

Ihatenightblades

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

GiuEliN0 wrote: »

uhm normally, caltrops is my 3° or 4° skill for damage in combat metrics, fighting the skelly for testing. So, yes its important in ST, dont understimate it.

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without. I'd also have to drop my sustain or potl for it. It has many, many, many viable uses on my bar, but is not at all necessary and often times kind of a loss. You should only use it in trash fights.

Why do u use rapid strikes and jabs . Keep jabs replace strikes

Ep1kMalware

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

GiuEliN0 wrote: »

uhm normally, caltrops is my 3° or 4° skill for damage in combat metrics, fighting the skelly for testing. So, yes its important in ST, dont understimate it.

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without. I'd also have to drop my sustain or potl for it. It has many, many, many viable uses on my bar, but is not at all necessary and often times kind of a loss. You should only use it in trash fights.

Why do u use rapid strikes and jabs . Keep jabs replace strikes

No, no, no. That is how you take a stamplar from 44k dps to 15k dps.

F7sus4

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without.

Why do u use rapid strikes and jabs . Keep jabs replace strikes

No, no, no. That is how you take a stamplar from 44k dps to 15k dps.

38k. 33k. 44k. I'm genuinely curious which random generator do you use for those numbers, but it is malfunctioning quite badly. CombatMetrics screenshots would do the job.

Ep1kMalware

F7sus4 wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without.

Why do u use rapid strikes and jabs . Keep jabs replace strikes

No, no, no. That is how you take a stamplar from 44k dps to 15k dps.

38k. 33k. 44k. I'm genuinely curious which random generator do you use for those numbers, but it is malfunctioning quite badly. CombatMetrics screenshots would do the job.

It's been verified by largest pve raid guilds on ps4. I'm done arguing, I'm taking the build down because It's not worth maintaining the thread anymore. I tried, it was an easy 33k dps with 0 sustain issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Malmai

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ok guys, I've just done some testinf on my stamina templar, and while ,y dps is slightly lower due to some recent changes I was still able to log in amd parse 30k right off the bat. Now I do have some gear to get that may push my dps significantly higher than premorrowind, and that will be my dirty little secret, my old homestead setup will work out well for you.

I am running alcast setup, with some minor tweaks into the red tree, mostly some more points into quick recovery, the damage cp is exactly how he posted for now.

My gear:
2x kragh
5x spriggans
3x vo
Precise maelstrom dagger/sharp maelstrom axe
sharpened maelstrom's bow

The rotation is very very important that skills are uses in the correct order. Caltrops are not used as it is a dps loss in single target fights. You can argue all you want, but trust me on this, your dps will be lower every time.

My bar setups:
Bow
Endless hail/repentence/vigor/poison injection/potl/ crescent sweeps
Dw
Bloodcraze/restoring focus/rearming trap/flurry/biting jabs/rend

For raids you want to slot repentence for shards, since the synergy returns to the caster. For certain fights you might want quick cloak on instead of bloodcraze (rhakkat for example).

Now for the rotation on dps dummy, I start with trap on my dw bar, bar swap, endless hail, potl, poison inject, bar swap.

Then we move onto the actual dps rotation. First rotation includes an ultimate, so we'll use 1 less spammable. Additionally, we already applied trap, so we'll skip it.

Flurry/bloodcraze/light attack/flurry/rend/heavy attack/ 1x jabs

Now that we're all buffed up and our ultimate is out, we will continue onto our rotation until we get another ult. Before you swap to your bow bar, begin with flurry, so it'll look like:

Flurry/barhop/endless hail/light attack/potl/poison injection/bar hop

Always barhop after poison injection. Now the dw bar:

Flurry/trap/light attack/bloodcraze/heavy attack/jabs x2/flurry

And repeat with endless hail. You can barswap halfway through the final flurry on dw bar. please notice, that this setup is a slight modification of my homestead setup, amd zi have much bigger plans for my templar. But this should allow you to get pretty decent dps. If you die in a fight, simply replace jabs with heavy attacks and you'll be on your feet in no time.


upload multiple images

Use TFS and caltrops please...

Tfs wont drop and caltrops won't help you on st fights or passing dps test for your guild. Don't correct me plz.

Dont correct me ? If u dont get more dps with caltrops on ST than u doing something wrong or u have bad rota... caltrops is very nice dot so please dont teach ppl false stuff + stamplar is already weak in terms of aoe so u defo need caltrops...

Malic

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Pre morrowind dropping caltrops was the difference betweem 38k dps and 33k dps. Morrowind with this setup in particular I'm getting 27-28k with caltrops amd 33k without.

Why do u use rapid strikes and jabs . Keep jabs replace strikes

No, no, no. That is how you take a stamplar from 44k dps to 15k dps.

38k. 33k. 44k. I'm genuinely curious which random generator do you use for those numbers, but it is malfunctioning quite badly. CombatMetrics screenshots would do the job.

It's been verified by largest pve raid guilds on ps4. I'm done arguing, I'm taking the build down because It's not worth maintaining the thread anymore. I tried, it was an easy 33k dps with 0 sustain issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So it/you lasted 4 hours with the build over caltrops?

Whats your next build going to be named? "The thinned skinned"?

MCBIZZLE300

Don't let people get you down, be proud of your build! Everyone's so narrow minded but I've found the people that like to criticize other peoples ideas in the game are the ones that lack performance. People dismiss other peoples builds just because they think theoretically a different set would be better without testing it.

Ep1kMalware

mcb123 wrote: »

Don't let people get you down, be proud of your build! Everyone's so narrow minded but I've found the people that like to criticize other peoples ideas in the game are the ones that lack performance. People dismiss other peoples builds just because they think theoretically a different set would be better without testing it.

Oh, I am definitelt proud, proud enough I waited till morrowimd dropped to post my buils. I just shared my setup, I didn't ask anyone for advice on how to trainwreck my dps. If less people stomped around on stamplar like it was was stamsorc or nb they'd be doing more than 20k dps.

It's considered weak but can pump infimite sustain in trials amd still pump 40k dps withoit taking a hit in survivability. Let's not even get into pumping out crescent sweeps evert few seconds during execute phase.

All I did was share an e dgame competative build. These guys wanna argue on about it I'll just remove my post and let them go on thinking they're right about everything. I'll keep to myself when all the 'help me I suck' threads open up. I don't help people often, amd this is pretty much why.