Is there any point in choosing PVP orientated champion points?

Chelister

Before Morrowind I have always chosen & maxed out those points which are nessesary for PVP (spell penetration / Elfborn for burts / etc...)

Now given that Battlegrounds + nearlly all campaigns are non-CP, is there any point in concentrating on PVP CPs?
Why can't I just max out the Thief to get Treasure Hunter (increases quality of items in treasure box) or something like that

As an example, I would never put any points in Thaumaturge since I rarely use dots in PVP as a magicka pet sorcerer. In contrast, I mostly use dots in PVE. So bearing in mind that CPs are not used in PVP much anymore, would it be right just to put points into Thaumaturge for PVP?

To conclude, given that PVP is getting away from the CP system, can I just focus the CP points which are for open world & non PVP?

magictucktuck

Im setting mine up for PvE only. since most my time will be in battlegrounds/ no CP campaign


EDIT: great QOL for switching from PvP to VMA or trials

Chelister

magictucktuck wrote: »

Im setting mine up for PvE only. since most my time will be in battlegrounds/ no CP campaign


EDIT: great QOL for switching from PvP to VMA or trials

Cool, so basically the only part where CP is needed for PVP is in dueling and the only one CP-campaign, right?
So if you are only running non-CP campaigns & battlegrounds, the only place where u will need PVP orientated CPs are dueling, right?

Sigtric

Only if you are going to play in the CP enabled campaign.

Chelister

Sigtric wrote: »

Only if you are going to play in the CP enabled campaign.

Are CPs on during dueling?

tnanever

Chelister wrote: »

magictucktuck wrote: »

Im setting mine up for PvE only. since most my time will be in battlegrounds/ no CP campaign


EDIT: great QOL for switching from PvP to VMA or trials

Cool, so basically the only part where CP is needed for PVP is in dueling and the only one CP-campaign, right?
So if you are only running non-CP campaigns & battlegrounds, the only place where u will need PVP orientated CPs are dueling, right?

Yeah Zenimax should take out the strictly PvP champion points, and replace them with something more universally useful.

Aisle9

nvm

Chelister

Aisle9 wrote: »

nvm

What did you mean?

Aisle9

I wrote a reply, but after reading the original post again, noticed I got it wrong, so deleted it

KingMagaw

ESO is going NO-CP so no point in investing in them, on a pvp level, or investing in builds that augment them.


VR system was a mistake and was replaced by a more flawed system that introduced more faults and lag into the game via Cp's, F knows what the next detriment is going to be (Other than closing TrueFlame like Z0$ closed Haderus/SpellBreaker/EbonyBlade).

Game population is decreasing, mainly due to lack of enforcement on cheating in PvP, i think anyway. Closing down servers is never a good sign for any game and again i think it was a weak bid to cover up game population decreasing.

Chelister

KingMagaw wrote: »

ESO is going NO-CP so no point in investing in them, on a pvp level, or investing in builds that augment them.


VR system was a mistake and was replaced by a more flawed system that introduced more faults and lag into the game via Cp's, F knows what the next detriment is going to be (Other than closing TrueFlame like Z0$ closed Haderus/SpellBreaker/EbonyBlade).

Game population is decreasing, mainly due to lack of enforcement on cheating in PvP, i think anyway. Closing down servers is never a good sign for any game and again i think it was a weak bid to cover up game population decreasing.

Any statistics of lowering of player population?
You seem to be too negative about the game

KingMagaw

Z0$ doesnt release any statistics or be anyway transparent in actions they take/not take.

Not negative but a realist i hope )

CP's added in more factors that have to be constantly accounted for dynamically in the game. Adding more factors into a real time equation will require more processing to generate the result in the same amount of time as its inherently more complex. Putting 1 point into every CP versus someone with 0 points into every CP is a massive computing difference. That is just simple logic and proven science.


If we have no statistics of game population i can only judge on what i see/witness and approach it logically.


What growing enterprise closes down services that are being constantly used and has no solutions set in place for the customers?.

Saturday night PC/EU - TrueFlame and Azura were always pop-locked (That i witnessed anyway). Had to wait maybe 1-30 minutes to get into play Imperial City, a paid for DLC. What happened when Z0$ closed down 2 servers for no reason?, my queue time went up into 1hr 30mins/170 in queue.

I dont find it excusable that players got shafted by this. So i buy ESO. I buy IC. Now i wait for minimum 1 hour to play?. That is just plain stupid. I get disconnected and i have to requeue all over again. Now Haderus is gone adding extra strain on TrueFlame. This is a good path to take?, keep stacking queue time onto a campaign?.


As for players exploiting PvP - The list is exhaustive because the content isn't tested and many play the PTS for personal gain when LIVE hits. Z0$ blatantly ignores the Cheating Thread on the forum no matter how many times they are tagged being asked questions from players. If your new and haven't had forum experience over 2 years, Google it and you will see players using programs, wont name and shame them, for over 3 years.

Didgerion

As a solo player you will enjoy CP campaign more - you really need CPs help to out-sustain the groups you encounter also the CP no-CP campaigns are mostly empty during the non prime hours.

Also as a solo player you will not enjoy BGs. BG is full of proc sets that insta melts you down and also you have 0 chance against organized groups.

**edited CP

Strider_Roshin

Yeah CP is essentially just for PvE now. I'm probably going to auto decline duels now. I'm not going to spend 3k gold to respec every time someone wants to duel me.

Chelister

Didgerion wrote: »

As a solo player you will enjoy CP campaign more - you really need CPs help to out-sustain the groups you encounter also the CP campaigns are mostly empty during the non prime hours.

Also as a solo player you will not enjoy BGs. BG is full of proc sets that insta melts you down and also you have 0 chance against organized groups.

I never succeeded in CP-campaigns and I really don't like the CP system integrated in PVP
Your logic makes sense, but for some reason I was always better without the added bonuses on CPs