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Cyrodiil is doomed again, ZOS do you know that?
EIGHTS
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When there are full of crossing faction people in Cyrodiil, there are only zerg left. They can do whatever they want.
Alliance war is broken. So why should I continue to play PvP.
I will quit too. Let those people play themselves.
A WHOLE BIG MAP TO DUEL.
YOU CAN ZERG YOUR FRIENDS, THEY LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
Edited by EIGHTS on June 5, 2017 8:00AM Alliance war is broken. So why should I continue to play PvP.
I will quit too. Let those people play themselves.
A WHOLE BIG MAP TO DUEL.
YOU CAN ZERG YOUR FRIENDS, THEY LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
I'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭there should be a bunch of different gameplay styles available depending on the map..Edited by geonsocal on June 5, 2017 8:11AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
EIGHTS✭✭✭✭there should be a bunch of different gameplay styles available depending on the map...
This happened before. It just happened again.
It makes lots of real DC players leave this game.
There are no other playstyle. Only one left. 10 to 50 EP vs 1 DC all day.
No one will play with those crossing faction people. They make it again. I'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.3 -
Carpe-Veritatem✭✭✭ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?10 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭After a full red map, EP gankers & big zerg on AD gates. If ZOS don't resolve PvP problems, then some fairplay is needed.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language2 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
Yea, because being limited to play with friends/guildies from different Alliances is a bad thing.....0 -
Xiphyla✭✭✭there should be a bunch of different gameplay styles available depending on the map...
This happened before. It just happened again.
It makes lots of real DC players leave this game.
There are no other playstyle. Only one left. 10 to 50 EP vs 1 DC all day.
No one will play with those crossing faction people. They make it again.
You sure it's only 10 to 50 EP vs 1 DC all day ? What timezone are you in bro.AD : DiE (Inactive)
DC : K-hole (Inactive)
EP : ZDM (Inactive)
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FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭there should be a bunch of different gameplay styles available depending on the map...
This happened before. It just happened again.
It makes lots of real DC players leave this game.
There are no other playstyle. Only one left. 10 to 50 EP vs 1 DC all day.
No one will play with those crossing faction people. They make it again.
You sure it's only 10 to 50 EP vs 1 DC all day ? What timezone are you in bro.
All of them are sorcs. Nerf Templar.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!5 -
kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
Yea, because being limited to play with friends/guildies from different Alliances is a bad thing.....
My friends are all in the same faction when we want to fight each other we play on out guest campaign, so the only limit is someone's imagination, cross faction swapping is bad for the game in pvp in pve it does not matter but when to comes to cyrodiil and pvp one faction, outside of the cheating and exploiting this is one of the major issues why pvp sucks in this game, there is no faction pride no campaign pride, oh look red is winning let me play my red toon today, three way faction warfare when played as intended is really fun to many people never give it a chance.1 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When there are full of crossing faction people in Cyrodiil, there are only zerg left. They can do whatever they want.
Alliance war is broken. So why should I continue to play PvP.
I will quit too. Let those people play themselves.
A WHOLE BIG MAP TO DUEL.
YOU CAN ZERG YOUR FRIENDS, THEY LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
if you are on pc eu, can I have your stuff plz?
@altemriel
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CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Some people don't have a loyalty to a faction. I know my only allegiance is to my friends. If there was a lawless pirate faction that allowed myself and those I run with to fight all three factions, we would hoist the Jolly Roger in a heart beat.
Some people like to roleplay an alliance war. We just like good fights.3 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some people don't have a loyalty to a faction. I know my only allegiance is to my friends. If there was a lawless pirate faction that allowed myself and those I run with to fight all three factions, we would hoist the Jolly Roger in a heart beat.
Some people like to roleplay an alliance war. We just like good fights.
If i could be a pirate and take scrolls to my pirate ship i would be the happiest Captain.PS4 NA DC0 -
QuebraRegra✭✭✭✭✭
✭Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
I would modify that in only one way...
DO AWAY WITH THE INITIAL FACTION SELECTION AT CHARACTER CREATION COMPLETELY! it's ONE Tamriel!
Select a faction when entering a campaign, locked into that faction for the campaign duration. Bonuses for low pops, and faction loyalty. Only one character per-campaign.8 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭QuebraRegra wrote: »Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
I would modify that in only one way...
DO AWAY WITH THE INITIAL FACTION SELECTION AT CHARACTER CREATION COMPLETELY! it's ONE Tamriel!
Select a faction when entering a campaign, locked into that faction for the campaign duration. Bonuses for low pops, and faction loyalty. Only one character per-campaign.
So meaning I can only play with one of my 14 characters in CP PvP? Why not just tell me to fwuk off so you and your other 20 RPs friends can RP in PvP? I might be ok with this if you was going to refund the hundreds of dollars I've spent on this game and covered the cost of my upcoming subs cycles.
Sorry but not sorry. This game don't revolve around just you and your RP buddies. My money counts just as much as yours.
But since you arn't.
Edited by FearlessOne_2014 on June 8, 2017 12:52AM2 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sounds like cyrodiil may need a doctor...
PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place1 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everyone needs to calm. It's patch launch. Half the regulars are doing new content or levelling.
The only odd thing is that EP guilds aren't.DC guilds will be back soon.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost0 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭Everyone needs to calm. It's patch launch. Half the regulars are doing new content or levelling.
The only odd thing is that EP guilds aren't.DC guilds will be back soon.
Noups... i hear a lot just say: 'im leaving'. People really dont like super build's, Proc set with stupidy DPS, farmers run's, etc. People like a good combate, not a dirt fight.3 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everyone needs to calm. It's patch launch. Half the regulars are doing new content or levelling.
The only odd thing is that EP guilds aren't.DC guilds will be back soon.
Noups... i hear a lot just say: 'im leaving'. People really dont like super build's, Proc set with stupidy DPS, farmers run's, etc. People like a good combate, not a dirt fight.
That not the case with all of the Proc Set defenders. They love a dirty free gank.1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah something really needs to be done. I think faction lock used to be a thing so many say they won't revert cause reverting is not something ZOS does. But I think a campaign by campaign lock would be really great.1 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
Let's assume you are right that there are hundreds of players out there manipulating the PvP campaigns because we have nothing better to do than ruin your fun and the integrity of Cyrodiil. We don't do battlegrounds, we don't play in guilds 4 times a week, don't run trials, don't build houses, no DSA, don't do Vvardenfell, don't grind up new toons, don't duel, don't do IC, etc., we do nothing but devote 100% of our game time stealing scrolls and crowning our friends emperor.
We are so damned determined and successful at doing this ... how is your faction lock going to stop this? I mean we clearly plan this out and devote ourselves to ruining your campaigns, surely we would say before the next campaign cycle: "Hey most of us should join EP because three EP mains need Emperor. We'll have 10 players stay on AD and 8 on DC to ensure we have spais on every night and can still steal scrolls when needed and make false call outs in zone." All a faction lock would do is move the timetable up for such coordination. It would not stop it. In fact, it might actually make it more difficult to combat since by locking factions, you prevent the many people who multi-faction because they want to play the underdog from helping to balance out the bandwagon hoppers.
Also, how exactly does your campaign lock all of sudden make the manipulators loyal to a faction or care about winning? You think all of a sudden those EP players who screw around at Brindle while Arrius and other home keeps are being taken will all of a sudden "respect" Cyrodiil? There is absolutely nothing stopping an EP player from taking a scroll and running over to her DC friends just to be a troll.
If your faction loses then your faction needs to get good, take off the tinfoil hats, and look to improving their coordination /strategies instead of blaming spais and cross faction players for why it was defeated.4 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
Let's assume you are right that there are hundreds of players out there manipulating the PvP campaigns because we have nothing better to do than ruin your fun and the integrity of Cyrodiil. We don't do battlegrounds, we don't play in guilds 4 times a week, don't run trials, don't build houses, no DSA, don't do Vvardenfell, don't grind up new toons, don't duel, don't do IC, etc., we do nothing but devote 100% of our game time stealing scrolls and crowning our friends emperor.
We are so damned determined and successful at doing this ... how is your faction lock going to stop this? I mean we clearly plan this out and devote ourselves to ruining your campaigns, surely we would say before the next campaign cycle: "Hey most of us should join EP because three EP mains need Emperor. We'll have 10 players stay on AD and 8 on DC to ensure we have spais on every night and can still steal scrolls when needed and make false call outs in zone." All a faction lock would do is move the timetable up for such coordination. It would not stop it. In fact, it might actually make it more difficult to combat since by locking factions, you prevent the many people who multi-faction because they want to play the underdog from helping to balance out the bandwagon hoppers.
Also, how exactly does your campaign lock all of sudden make the manipulators loyal to a faction or care about winning? You think all of a sudden those EP players who screw around at Brindle while Arrius and other home keeps are being taken will all of a sudden "respect" Cyrodiil? There is absolutely nothing stopping an EP player from taking a scroll and running over to her DC friends just to be a troll.
If your faction loses then your faction needs to get good, take off the tinfoil hats, and look to improving their coordination /strategies instead of blaming spais and cross faction players for why it was defeated.
...... in short, everyone is with the same feeling, regardless of faction ... however, you think the problem is 'not liking to lose'?
I do not think I get it.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Carpe-Veritatem wrote: »ZOS needs to lock accounts by faction on a campaign by campaign basis. The amount of corruption currently in Cyro is KILLING PvP and ruining what should be a fun game. People can group with whomever they want in 95% of the game's map, but Cyro should and MUST be a controlled environment. People shouldn't be allowed to bring in a Red tune to crown an emp for their buddy, jump back on a Blue tune to steal scrolls and run the map, and then Yellow to farm AP. Campaigns are being RUINED by faction and campaign jumpers who don't give a crap about loyalty to any particuliar faction, they just want a Ruby Throne for their house and a bunch of AP. But what of the MANY of us who strive hard for victory.....who actually care about winning? How fun is it for us to watch the manipulation of events in Cyro which totally effect the outcome of a 30 day campaign? ZOS knew, or should have known, this would happen and yet they ignore it. It's quite disheartening, and I know many guilds on the AD side that are talking about leaving ESO because of it. Lock the damn accounts by faction for a campaign and force people to choose a side! Then, after the month is over, allow them to choose whatever faction they'd like again. Again, with OneTamriel players can group with whomever they want in over 95% of the worlds map. Is it too much to ask that Cyro be treated with the respect it deserves?
Let's assume you are right that there are hundreds of players out there manipulating the PvP campaigns because we have nothing better to do than ruin your fun and the integrity of Cyrodiil. We don't do battlegrounds, we don't play in guilds 4 times a week, don't run trials, don't build houses, no DSA, don't do Vvardenfell, don't grind up new toons, don't duel, don't do IC, etc., we do nothing but devote 100% of our game time stealing scrolls and crowning our friends emperor.
We are so damned determined and successful at doing this ... how is your faction lock going to stop this? I mean we clearly plan this out and devote ourselves to ruining your campaigns, surely we would say before the next campaign cycle: "Hey most of us should join EP because three EP mains need Emperor. We'll have 10 players stay on AD and 8 on DC to ensure we have spais on every night and can still steal scrolls when needed and make false call outs in zone." All a faction lock would do is move the timetable up for such coordination. It would not stop it. In fact, it might actually make it more difficult to combat since by locking factions, you prevent the many people who multi-faction because they want to play the underdog from helping to balance out the bandwagon hoppers.
Also, how exactly does your campaign lock all of sudden make the manipulators loyal to a faction or care about winning? You think all of a sudden those EP players who screw around at Brindle while Arrius and other home keeps are being taken will all of a sudden "respect" Cyrodiil? There is absolutely nothing stopping an EP player from taking a scroll and running over to her DC friends just to be a troll.
If your faction loses then your faction needs to get good, take off the tinfoil hats, and look to improving their coordination /strategies instead of blaming spais and cross faction players for why it was defeated.
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭I'm enjoying the small scale non-cp fights. CP campaign has worse lag than before thanks to the massive zergs, but at least I wasn't disconnected there. This is on PS4 NA.
I don't think Cyrodiil is doomed and hope some more folks try non-cp.
There should be a timer on accounts for Cyrodiil, if you login as one faction then you have a one hour cool down before you can log into the same campaign as a different character. Maybe longer, but not shorter and no timer for logging into a different campaign.0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The last campaign score I cared about was around Thornblade 6 or something. Playing the campaign is uninteresting, mainly because the difference between #1 and #3 is so negligible and faction pride is a relic of the past anyway. What I do care about though is healthy gameplay. And the issue of 50+ groups stomping every play even when it comes to resources just sucks out any desire to play. It's not about losing an unimportant objective like a campaign. I press L to see who is emperor currently but not to see the campaign score. But when you're pushed back to the gates constantly by the 50+ trains because more people equal more fun to some then you'd rather do something else. I know I have.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1
