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Training dummies PS4 - where are they?

Chelister
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I have seen in numerous clips that people test their DPS on a Target Skeleton

Is this feature available on PS4? If yes, where can I find it?
  • subtlezeroub17_ESO
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    Buy a house first and you can get one. :)
  • Chelister
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    Buy a house first and you can get one. :)

    Does every house contain it? Does the skeleton automatically appear in your house?
    There are some houses which are really small, can you choose Skeleton's location?
  • lagrue
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    You don't get a skeleton with any of the houses, no. You have to do Master Writs, many of them - and buy them from the Master Writ Furnisher. Alternatively you can buy them for Crowns once you have a house and can access the furniture purchasing catalogue. Like any decoration you can place them almost anywhere you so choose.

    They're more geared at Dungeon/Trial players though... I'm talking 5 million health skeletons - if its just you in the house, it's going to take you like 5-10 min to test your DPS, it's kind of a let down for people who just want to know their personal stats quickly.

    Also I saw your other thread - and there's not really any other features added to Housing. You can put crafting tables in your home, Standing Stones (Crowns only right now) and the target skeletons - the Housing over all is just a nice decoration system (and you can port to any for free, so I guess in a way it's like free fast travel to get there, but not to leave).

    oh and yes, you can buy an already furnished house, though its hard to determine whether its worth it or not.

    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 11:27PM
    "You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"
  • zaria
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    No you have to buy it, either from guld stores, the master crafter mercant or the crown store.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • zaria
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    go for the normal one not the robust
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Chelister
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    lagrue wrote: »
    You don't get a skeleton with any of the houses, no. You have to do Master Writs, many of them - and buy them from the Master Writ Furnisher. Alternatively you can buy them for Crowns once you have a house and can access the furniture purchasing catalogue. Like any decoration you can place them almost anywhere you so choose.

    They're more geared at Dungeon/Trial players though... I'm talking 5 million health skeletons - if its just you in the house, it's going to take you like 5-10 min to test your DPS, it's kind of a let down for people who just want to know their personal stats quickly.

    Also I saw your other thread - and there's not really any other features added to Housing. You can put crafting tables in your home, Standing Stones (Crowns only right now) and the target skeletons - the Housing over all is just a nice decoration system (and you can port to any for free, so I guess in a way it's like free fast travel to get there, but not to leave).

    oh and yes, you can buy an already furnished house, though its hard to determine whether its worth it or not.

    Thx for the reply, few more questions though)
    So let's assume I have enough Crowns to buy the house, can buy the skeleton target also with crowns?
    If yes, can you elaborate on your second paragraph. Does killing the skeleton require to pay again for it or does it revive over again?
    So to conclude my question is given that I have enough Crows, can I buy a fully furnished house and a Skeleton. If yes then its the question of how viable is the skeleton if I want to regularly test my builds (I mainly PVP)
  • disintegr8
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    The skeleton 'respawns' after each fight, it is not a one use item.
    Australian on PS4 NA server.
    Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
  • zaria
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    First ask in guild, many have skeletons and you can use it in their house simply with right click on player in roster and travel to his house.
    You can use it in any house even the small rooms so no need to buy house for crowns.

    Last it respanws as disintegr8 says, it will also show you dps then it dies.
    An warning, 3 million is a lot of health, with 20k dps it will take 150 seconds to kill it, that is 2 and a half minute so its an long fight. You will also not get sustain or buffs from healer nor does the skeleton get debuffed by tank.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Chelister
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    zaria wrote: »
    First ask in guild, many have skeletons and you can use it in their house simply with right click on player in roster and travel to his house.
    You can use it in any house even the small rooms so no need to buy house for crowns.

    Last it respanws as disintegr8 says, it will also show you dps then it dies.
    An warning, 3 million is a lot of health, with 20k dps it will take 150 seconds to kill it, that is 2 and a half minute so its an long fight. You will also not get sustain or buffs from healer nor does the skeleton get debuffed by tank.
    zaria wrote: »
    No you have to buy it, either from guild stores, the master crafter merchant or the crown store.

    I mostly play alone, don't have any friends in ESO)
    So I just figured out the way to buy a furnished house. Once I bought it, how can I get the Skeleton Dummy?
    As you said there are three ways, I am more prone just to buy it over the Crown Store, but struggle to find it. Does it say Skeleton Dummy is it something else that I have to buy to get the dummy?
  • Chelister
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    lagrue wrote: »
    You don't get a skeleton with any of the houses, no. You have to do Master Writs, many of them - and buy them from the Master Writ Furnisher. Alternatively you can buy them for Crowns once you have a house and can access the furniture purchasing catalogue. Like any decoration you can place them almost anywhere you so choose.

    They're more geared at Dungeon/Trial players though... I'm talking 5 million health skeletons - if its just you in the house, it's going to take you like 5-10 min to test your DPS, it's kind of a let down for people who just want to know their personal stats quickly.

    Also I saw your other thread - and there's not really any other features added to Housing. You can put crafting tables in your home, Standing Stones (Crowns only right now) and the target skeletons - the Housing over all is just a nice decoration system (and you can port to any for free, so I guess in a way it's like free fast travel to get there, but not to leave).

    oh and yes, you can buy an already furnished house, though its hard to determine whether its worth it or not.

    Still didn't get any answer, can you answer my previous post? I am trying to understand if I can buy the Skeleton dummy through the Crown Store straight after I bought the house
    Thx!
  • davey1107
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    Sorry you got confusing info. It sounds like you bought a home and now want a dummy. Assuming you don't adopt an EP player from Cyrodiil (ha) you need a target dummy.

    Buy Options:

    1. Buy in a guild store for 150-200k in game gold under furnishing, workshop, dummies.
    2. Complete master writs, buy the recipe, do more writs, but the mats, make. Ugh.
    3. Find a crafter who can make, and trade master writ quests or gold to have them make. Like I'd make one for $100k for a direct sale. The mats are very expensive.
    4. Buy in crown store by going to your home, going into the housing editor, then tab to purchase. There's a bunch of crown items here. That's what you were doing wrong...most furnishing sold formcrowns are listed here in the housing editor, notmthe dorect store. Note...this is how you can get a Khajiit or Argonian dummy, cool! (See below, possible alternatives coming tomorrow)

    Using the dummy

    Set it up in your home. Workshop items need to be aligned correctly (his feet cant be in the ground). A green key line will surround a workshop item when it is being placed into a usable position.

    Once set up, you may ATTACK AT WILL. The game calculates damage per second. You don't have to kill the stupid thing. When you pause for 3-5 seconds the dps calculator resets. In your text chat, a gold line will appear reporting the dps for that session. This will appear on screen if you have text chat up, or see it in the menu in social...text chat.

    Your dummy will slowly regain health over time, I think. If you kill it, the bones crumble and he pops up at 100% a second later. You cannot lose a dummy by attacking it or killing it. But it still would like the occasional hug.

    You may move your dummy around, or to another home. You may store with a character's inventory, or in your bank. Dummies bought with game gold are tradable, so you could sell it off. Crown dummies are bound, so it stays on your account. Crown furnishing have a little crown next to them in the editor so you can tell them apart.

    Robust dummies have super health for trial groups to play with. You really don't need one of these.

    I think Morrowind is going to drop some new target dummies...dwemer themed. No idea if they will be in crown shop, but maybe wait and see what pops up.

    Enjoy, hope this helped.
  • Chelister
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    Sorry you got confusing info. It sounds like you bought a home and now want a dummy. Assuming you don't adopt an EP player from Cyrodiil (ha) you need a target dummy.

    Buy Options:

    1. Buy in a guild store for 150-200k in game gold under furnishing, workshop, dummies.
    2. Complete master writs, buy the recipe, do more writs, but the mats, make. Ugh.
    3. Find a crafter who can make, and trade master writ quests or gold to have them make. Like I'd make one for $100k for a direct sale. The mats are very expensive.
    4. Buy in crown store by going to your home, going into the housing editor, then tab to purchase. There's a bunch of crown items here. That's what you were doing wrong...most furnishing sold formcrowns are listed here in the housing editor, notmthe dorect store. Note...this is how you can get a Khajiit or Argonian dummy, cool! (See below, possible alternatives coming tomorrow)

    Using the dummy

    Set it up in your home. Workshop items need to be aligned correctly (his feet cant be in the ground). A green key line will surround a workshop item when it is being placed into a usable position.

    Once set up, you may ATTACK AT WILL. The game calculates damage per second. You don't have to kill the stupid thing. When you pause for 3-5 seconds the dps calculator resets. In your text chat, a gold line will appear reporting the dps for that session. This will appear on screen if you have text chat up, or see it in the menu in social...text chat.

    Your dummy will slowly regain health over time, I think. If you kill it, the bones crumble and he pops up at 100% a second later. You cannot lose a dummy by attacking it or killing it. But it still would like the occasional hug.

    You may move your dummy around, or to another home. You may store with a character's inventory, or in your bank. Dummies bought with game gold are tradable, so you could sell it off. Crown dummies are bound, so it stays on your account. Crown furnishing have a little crown next to them in the editor so you can tell them apart.

    Robust dummies have super health for trial groups to play with. You really don't need one of these.

    I think Morrowind is going to drop some new target dummies...dwemer themed. No idea if they will be in crown shop, but maybe wait and see what pops up.

    Enjoy, hope this helped.

    Thank you for your explicit explanation!
    One more question though. Do I have the option to somehow buy (via crown store) crafting stations to be placed at my house?
    Edited by Chelister on June 6, 2017 1:32AM
  • TequilaFire
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    Sorry you got confusing info. It sounds like you bought a home and now want a dummy. Assuming you don't adopt an EP player from Cyrodiil (ha) you need a target dummy.

    Sorry not enough EP players left they all went to AD! :p


  • davey1107
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    Hmm...I can't verify this, because of the maintenance. I think you can pay crowns for craft stations. But this one is actually easier/cheaper to do the in-game route, IMO. Unless you want to blow $150ish real world dollars on something you can do easily in game.

    There are two types of craft stations in all six types:

    "Vanilla" stations, which do exactly what every station of that type does.

    "Attunable" stations, which you take to a set crafting station and tune to that set ONE time. Take an attunable cloth station to the Twice Born Star pavilion, click it, and it permanently becomes a TBS clothing station...making both TBS and plain gear.

    In game, the writ voucher vendor in your capital city sells plain stations for 35 master writ vouchers and attunable for 250. If you decide not to spend crowns, go to guild stores and search: all items, gold quality. This is the only way to find master writs to complete. Scroll through all the stuff and find ones you can complete...make sure you can craft the item asked for.

    The going rate is about 1700 gold per voucher...still a little expensive. But thismfoves you an idea...you can spend crowns, or each plain station would cost you about 60,000 in game gold and maybe an hour of shopping/questing. I mean...Saturday I did this for furnishing plans, and earned about 330 vouchers in 2 hours, but I know the system so it's faster.
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