will zenimax ever fix nightblades cloak

raviour

this has been bugged since thieves guild, me and sypher have posted threads about this with many responses. its about time it got fixed. tab targeting nb in stealth is not right or fair just coz of some npc thingy thieves guild questing it got nerf. like just lol, wake up zeni

WhiteMage

So what's broke rn? Against my magplar it works perfectly. Maybe even too perfectly. You can cloak skoria and when a DBoS is used to pull a NB out of cloak the first tick of the DoT misses.

raviour

getting taken out of cloak by single target hits due to tab target makes it broken

Rianai

Uhm, you can't tab target players in stealth, right? And if a single target hit is used against you right when you use cloak, the hit usually misses. There are still lots of things that break cloak (intended and unintended), but i don't have many issues with single target skills breaking it.

Isbilen

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

DeHei

nightblade cloak dodge the damage of purifying ritual and finisher like soul strike... no comment!

akray21

Isbilen wrote: »

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

It doesn't need a nerf lol

Jurand80

Isbilen wrote: »

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

hahah yeah! just like with streak! i'd pay for that

GreenSoup2HoT

Isbilen wrote: »

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

If the ability made you un-reveal-able sure. For medium builds this ability is like are class defining way to survive other then using L.O.S and roll dodge. Light Armour builds can just shield stack and i would say are the biggest offenders of spam casting cloak.

Hammy01

Isbilen wrote: »

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

My main is a magblade and if they increase the cost of consecutive cast then they need to first fix the things that break cloak prematurely and while they are at it they can may cloak and its morphs keep you in sneak if you are not in combat instead of the way it works now... Press cloak and press the sneak button (click down on the right joystick for xbox) because i get really frustrated when i constant pop out of stealth even though i am not in combat.

GreenSoup2HoT

Hammy01 wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

If by fix you mean nerf, I am all for it. Increase the cost with consecutive casts please!

My main is a magblade and if they increase the cost of consecutive cast then they need to first fix the things that break cloak prematurely and while they are at it they can may cloak and its morphs keep you in sneak if you are not in combat instead of the way it works now... Press cloak and press the sneak button (click down on the right joystick for xbox) because i get really frustrated when i constant pop out of stealth even though i am not in combat.

Omg i know how you feel. We really need a new indicator on the bottom right of your screen to say when you have crouch activated.

There is a small X axis height difference when you activate crouch but like you said its hard to tell when your cloaking. I basically spam crouch while in cloak so i can see the little up and down axis happen to make sure.

jakeyura

Things that break cloak or hit while fully cloaked:

Skoria
Ice Comit
Burning effects (most annoying literally have zero chance vs MDK's)
Hurricane
Destro Ult
Grothdar
Curse
Fear
Jabs

krathos

jakeyura wrote: »

Things that break cloak or hit while fully cloaked:

Skoria
Ice Comit
Burning effects (most annoying literally have zero chance vs MDK's)
Hurricane
Destro Ult
Grothdar
Curse
Fear
Jabs

Literally all of these but burning effects are supposed to break cloak mate. That's not a bug lol. And I don't think burning effect does. I main magdk and my dots don't pull people out. You might be getting hit by a volatile armor spike. I use that since it's cheap and has a wide radius.

Cloak doesn't make you impervious to damage or unable to be hit. Any AoE or meteor is going to take you out of it by design. Same with any long lasting effects like curse/potl/etc.

KingJ

Isn't Curse considered a dot so shouldn't cloak suppress it?It should delay the explosion which would be kinda cool.

WhiteMage

jakeyura wrote: »

Things that break cloak or hit while fully cloaked:

Skoria
Ice Comit
Burning effects (most annoying literally have zero chance vs MDK's)
Hurricane
Destro Ult
Grothdar
Curse
Fear
Jabs

A skoria meteor targeted on a cloaked NB will miss. The AoE from hitting a nearby target may break cloak (but I wouldn't know because I smallscale/solo).

Biro123

After fighting against a few NBs recently, I can without a doubt say that cloak is now VERY strong.

Hurika

It's working better than it has in a long time but there are still some bugs and things that drop cloak that shouldn't.

The risk is do you REALLY want them touching something that works 80% of the time knowing after they "fix" it may work 20% of the time given their track record with it.

thankyourat

Biro123 wrote: »

After fighting against a few NBs recently, I can without a doubt say that cloak is now VERY strong.

Only against players with ranged builds. Against melee builds its not as strong unless you create space first. Meaning cloak is only really strong against 2 out 10 builds. things like entropy and burning effects from weapon enchants still break my cloak 100% of time

Biro123

thankyourat wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

After fighting against a few NBs recently, I can without a doubt say that cloak is now VERY strong.

Only against players with ranged builds. Against melee builds its not as strong unless you create space first. Meaning cloak is only really strong against 2 out 10 builds. things like entropy and burning effects from weapon enchants still break my cloak 100% of time

Hehe - I guess I'm running one of those 2 then.. But saying that, the fight I meant involved the guy ganking then instantly cloaking before I had a chance to react - then ganking again, from another angle and re-cloaking and again, and again.. It was like dodge-roll on steroids.. It wasn't that you he dodged your shots, he was simply gone before you could target him and fire. I guess the only counter would have been standing in some ground target AOE or something like hurricane? (of which I had nothing like that slotted)..

akray21

I would take a steep increased cost on each additional cloak after the first if it worked 100% of the time and nothing pulled you out if cloak. On my stamblade I can only do 3 cloaks in a row from full magicka. If they changed cloak to where nothing pulled you out I would agree to an increase in cost even if it means I can only cloak twice in a row instead of three times.

CavalryPK

The key in making the cloak work is to dodge right before you cast it such that every projectile that is flying your way is mitigated by dodge immunity and when the cloak is cast. it actually works.

Did you every notice that stamblades unlike magblades are the most successful in making the cloak work? (they dodge all the frisking time!)

If you are a magblade and you have a very low stamina pull then you have to fear before you cast cloak, however ppl shooting at you from far away may still brake your cloak since some projectiles are already in the air.

KingJ

Cloak feel worst than before for me on Xbox. Still being broken by gap closers and some dots.I hit a dude with poison inject yesterday and it broke right after casting.

bubbygink

Cloak feels better to me this update. I have put it back on my bar for BGs and love it. I do think it gets broken sometimes when it shouldn't but I feel like I can actually cloak during combat now to reposition, get away, or set up an offensive combo.

GreenSoup2HoT

KingJ wrote: »

Cloak feel worst than before for me on Xbox. Still being broken by gap closers and some dots.I hit a dude with poison inject yesterday and it broke right after casting.

Do you use Sheer Venom set? If so its the set. Already tested.

KingJ

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Cloak feel worst than before for me on Xbox. Still being broken by gap closers and some dots.I hit a dude with poison inject yesterday and it broke right after casting.

Do you use Sheer Venom set? If so its the set. Already tested.

Never used sheer venom. Rarely do dungeons anymore.