What happened to all the bears ?

vpy

A week ago everywhere I saw were bears running with players and now I rarely see any bears at all.
What's up ?

akl77

Pet bear? Warden bear?

Epona222

Everyone realised it was a bit of a rubbish ultimate and slotted something else?

Tryxus

I guess ppl figured out that the Warden was not OP

Artemiisia

warden bear is just fun, there is way to many other ultimate that are better

starlizard70ub17_ESO

The bear is useful in some situations but not all the time. It also gets in the way a lot. Plus, as others have said, there are better ultimates out there.

Graydon

Does the Warden Bear function the same as a Sorcerer pet?

Where the pet does not heal after each fight? Intstead herb dwindles until at zero HP and dies. Then must be resummoned?

SantieClaws

Khajiit believes they are probably in the woods having a picnic together.

Or whatever else it might be that bears they choose to do in the woods yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

staracino_ESO

Dat #morregret when it comes to the warden class.

Epona222

Graydon wrote: »

Does the Warden Bear function the same as a Sorcerer pet?

Where the pet does not heal after each fight? Intstead herb dwindles until at zero HP and dies. Then must be resummoned?

There's a passive that makes it auto-summon on death, but if you have it slotted on both bars it just means you can't get rid of it. Even if you right click on the buff on the character screen, it just comes back

It doesn't follow you through dungeons or anything, it just gets stuck in tunnels, or spawns on ramps above or below you where it is no use, and then desummons/summons over and over while you are actually trying to fight.

akl77

Epona222 wrote: »

Graydon wrote: »

Does the Warden Bear function the same as a Sorcerer pet?

Where the pet does not heal after each fight? Intstead herb dwindles until at zero HP and dies. Then must be resummoned?

There's a passive that makes it auto-summon on death, but if you have it slotted on both bars it just means you can't get rid of it. Even if you right click on the buff on the character screen, it just comes back

It doesn't follow you through dungeons or anything, it just gets stuck in tunnels, or spawns on ramps above or below you where it is no use, and then desummons/summons over and over while you are actually trying to fight.

Oh no, sounds awful.

Enslaved

Bear ulti sux, that is what happened. It has zero AOE, it can be stunned/off balance and similar. Compared to flawless dawnbreaker, it is simply 3x worse. Yes, it provides pseudo execute for 75 ulti, but even that can be dodged/blocked etc. Both morphs are meh, it can die easy and overall, it is way less usefull in both PvE and PvP that other class related ultimates Warden has on it's disposal.

Shad0wfire99

If it's anything like the other pets, it's too stupid to be useful very often.

akl77

Enslaved wrote: »

Bear ulti sux, that is what happened. It has zero AOE, it can be stunned/off balance and similar. Compared to flawless dawnbreaker, it is simply 3x worse. Yes, it provides pseudo execute for 75 ulti, but even that can be dodged/blocked etc. Both morphs are meh, it can die easy and overall, it is way less usefull in both PvE and PvP that other class related ultimates Warden has on it's disposal.

I think it's only useful for soloing.

Epona222

akl77 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Bear ulti sux, that is what happened. It has zero AOE, it can be stunned/off balance and similar. Compared to flawless dawnbreaker, it is simply 3x worse. Yes, it provides pseudo execute for 75 ulti, but even that can be dodged/blocked etc. Both morphs are meh, it can die easy and overall, it is way less usefull in both PvE and PvP that other class related ultimates Warden has on it's disposal.

I think it's only useful for soloing.

yeah pretty much the only use it has is to take aggro while you're working out which of your other lacklustre class skills might fit the situation

Enslaved

Epona222 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Bear ulti sux, that is what happened. It has zero AOE, it can be stunned/off balance and similar. Compared to flawless dawnbreaker, it is simply 3x worse. Yes, it provides pseudo execute for 75 ulti, but even that can be dodged/blocked etc. Both morphs are meh, it can die easy and overall, it is way less usefull in both PvE and PvP that other class related ultimates Warden has on it's disposal.

I think it's only useful for soloing.

yeah pretty much the only use it has is to take aggro while you're working out which of your other lacklustre class skills might fit the situation

Warden has nice skills, but one is simply great - swarm. For some reason, infecting swarm makes my weapon enchantment proc at least once on every target it infects after primary target spread it around. I am sure this is a bug, but imagine what it can do in PvP when you use assassins guile set and some of nasty potions we have... Zos should fix that lol

phermitgb

SantieClaws wrote: »

Khajiit believes they are probably in the woods having a picnic together.

Or whatever else it might be that bears they choose to do in the woods yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybh7SZifiRs

dunno why, but this song always creeped me out slightly as a kid...

agingerinohio

I do have to agree there are stronger ultimates but the bear does come in handy when you're solo due to the delayed casts.

By the way, I have been a long time reader on the forums and as of yesterday joined. Perhaps Santie Claws is correct. Haha

Whatelse73b14_ESO

I'm not sure where you are but I still see the Bear a lot. I do get annoyed by it disappearing at interior locations because it often happens when I'm outnumbered. lol

There are still some tweaks that need to be made to it, but I'm enjoying it so far. It is good for magic wardens, though it needs more aggro capability.

So far, even facing bosses I have yet to see my bear die. Not sure of anyone else's experience with that. I didn't take the "respawn" morph, I chose the other one.

Epona222

agingerinohio wrote: »

I do have to agree there are stronger ultimates but the bear does come in handy when you're solo due to the delayed casts.

By the way, I have been a long time reader on the forums and as of yesterday joined. Perhaps Santie Claws is correct. Haha

Welcome! Yeah it's one of my annoyances with the class, I hit a key to fire off a skill, and it takes a while to come to fruition - if there is an instant "hit the key and it instantly does damage" option amongst warden class skills, please let me know (it's possible that I haven't unlocked that yet).

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO

Its a joke!!!!
Another *** in the ass from Zenimax

Pallmor

A lot of people are likely putting their pets away more often now because of an annoying bug that makes you draw your weapon all the time if you have your pet active. That could have something to do with it.

Talked about it in another post:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348802/new-glitch-weapon-wont-stay-sheathed

Epona222

Pallmor wrote: »

A lot of people are likely putting their pets away more often now because of an annoying bug that makes you draw your weapon all the time if you have your pet active. That could have something to do with it.

Talked about it in another post:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348802/new-glitch-weapon-wont-stay-sheathed

Oh is that what is causing it? I hadn't linked it to having a summons out, but it's been driving me slowly nuts!

subtlezeroub17_ESO

I mean, I'm still going to use the bear because it works with my build. I just have a few more days until I can finally see what I can get into when Morrowind drops for consoles.

I've been theorycrafting too much. Lol

The Uninvited

Epona222 wrote: »

Everyone realised it was a bit of a rubbish ultimate and slotted something else?

This. It is very fun for solo play, but like others have said it gets stuck a lot or summons/unsummons the whole time.

Also very hard to round up mobs for AOE if your bear has aggro on a few of them that are further away.

STEVIL

Tryxus wrote: »

I guess ppl figured out that the Warden was not OP

Well, my guess is plenty knew that already...

However, to the Op, one issue may be the wardens after leaving the starter islands spread to different zones.

i am still seeing plenty of wardens - based on the hitchcckian bird strikes. But i am also seeing fewer bears.

i myself dropped the bear after not too long but am still playing warden(s) most of the time right now. i found it to be more annoying than useful given how useful i expect the warden to be. I personally list it third on the list of warden ulti... so its going to have to be a very specific circumstance for me to slot it again.

But i do still see some here and there - it is by no means gone.