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So your saying i cant use a frost staff without taunting a boss?

Ihatenightblades
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@ZOS ?

Like if i attack with a frost stuff im stuck with a taunt? Lol when the hell and why did this happen LOL
  • idk
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    Not stuck with a taunt. Don't put passive points into the taunt.
    Edited by idk on June 1, 2017 9:10PM
  • Sharee
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    You can use a frost staff, just don't use heavy attacks on the boss.
  • casparian
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    You can use a frost staff without taunting; only heavy attacks with a frost staff taunt. Just make sure all your heavy attacks are done a different bar with a different weapon, or if you want to only use ice staves, just don't take the Tri-Focus passive.

    The taunt was added to frost staff heavy attacks last January with the Homestead patch. As to why it happened -- ostensibly to prepare for Warden magicka tanks, but it was still a poorly thought through way to do that. Virtually no one likes the change.
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  • DocFrost72
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    One simple step: respec and take out the tri focus passive. If you need that for a back bar lightning staff or inferno staff, then use those to heavy with.

    And to the point: taunt should be removed and inner fire should be the first undaunted unlock...
  • QuebraRegra
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    needs to be a toggle under the skill line to turn it off and on as desired.. or a different button sequence to taunt.

    I hear they're looking for a new combat designer? Can we get a new designer to help out with some features that allow for flexibility/play as you want?

    https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1389

    I must say.. I'm not sure I care for the first line of the req, considering the how the lead has been moving so far:
    "Adhere to guidelines and restrictions for gameplay with the Combat Lead and Creative Director"
  • Nestor
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    Tanks in the groups I run with, or me when I am tanking, are always telling people to quit using a Frost Staff. It messes with our mobs we so carefully round up and taunt.
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  • Dreizopf
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    casparian wrote: »
    ... but it was still a poorly thought through way to do that. Virtually no one likes the change.

    And why does no one like it?

    Because you can't disable it on the fly. The other 2 taunt skills can be removed easily using the skill-menu. You can do it in group, in dungeon, everywhere, everytime, just not in fight ofc.

    But this passive is skilled, you have to pay for a remove, you have to visit the shrine to reskill. :#
    A quick and easy enable/disable of this taunt isn't possible, if you dont' want to give up your beloved frost-staff. ;)

    That's why no one loves it.
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  • danno8
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    needs to be a toggle under the skill line to turn it off and on as desired.. or a different button sequence to taunt.

    I hear they're looking for a new combat designer? Can we get a new designer to help out with some features that allow for flexibility/play as you want?

    https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1389

    I must say.. I'm not sure I care for the first line of the req, considering the how the lead has been moving so far:
    "Adhere to guidelines and restrictions for gameplay with the Combat Lead and Creative Director"

    You'd think there would be dozens of applications submitted just from people on these forums ;)
  • Ihatenightblades
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    Dude i thought warden was a frost class that can push good dps with frost lol

    So they made a frost class so it can tank good lol? Im still confused every frost staff passive is for tanking.

    So dps frost builds are completely useless? I guess :(
    Edited by Ihatenightblades on June 1, 2017 9:26PM
  • Mojmir
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    danno8 wrote: »
    needs to be a toggle under the skill line to turn it off and on as desired.. or a different button sequence to taunt.

    I hear they're looking for a new combat designer? Can we get a new designer to help out with some features that allow for flexibility/play as you want?

    https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1389

    I must say.. I'm not sure I care for the first line of the req, considering the how the lead has been moving so far:
    "Adhere to guidelines and restrictions for gameplay with the Combat Lead and Creative Director"

    You'd think there would be dozens of applications submitted just from people on these forums ;)

    Probably were,and as usual no answer from zo$
  • QuebraRegra
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    danno8 wrote: »
    needs to be a toggle under the skill line to turn it off and on as desired.. or a different button sequence to taunt.

    I hear they're looking for a new combat designer? Can we get a new designer to help out with some features that allow for flexibility/play as you want?

    https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1389

    I must say.. I'm not sure I care for the first line of the req, considering the how the lead has been moving so far:
    "Adhere to guidelines and restrictions for gameplay with the Combat Lead and Creative Director"

    You'd think there would be dozens of applications submitted just from people on these forums ;)

    #forumboss
  • majulook
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    For some reason I find this requirement funny: Minimum 3+ years game design experience on a shipped or live product.
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