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eso need to be more ease on new player!!!

lihentian
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i just get a friend to try out eso with me.. he is very excited.. but!! after spend several hour download the game, he run into countless patching.. ZOS if you want new player to play your game, then please do update your client.. no one enjoy a endless patching...

p.s. i hope he will stay, but from what it seem he is pretty feed up with the endless patching... can't you patch them all at once??? or maybe include some of these patch in the base client people download???
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    Well considering he's coming to the party a couple of years late, some extensive patching is inevitable. Assure him it will be worth the wait. A minor annoyance.
  • lagrue
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    Well considering he's coming to the party a couple of years late, some extensive patching is inevitable. Assure him it will be worth the wait. A minor annoyance.

    Agreed - BUT at the same time ZOS can work to consolidate its patches. It's a practice Warframe does from time to time. The thing is - when they do this, even previous patch holders have to redownload the new consolidated file.

    Still, for most people that is better 1 giant patch versus 50 smaller ones.
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  • Balgost
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    Your friend should upgrade from 56k. Its a whole new world out there.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Yes, their updater (with it's many unclear multiple stages of progress bars) can be quite annoying, especially when you do the initial "big" patch/download.

    But it won't do that every week, once your friend has sat through this one, it'll generally be small patches unless they do a big content patch (new DLC zone/etc).
  • Asardes
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    Big patches that happen about 3 times a year take about 30-60m to download but the small incremental ones which are every week take 5-10m. If they take more than that your internet connection is usually too slow to play the game. Note that the server is patched before the client and that usually takes 6-8h when it's down and you can't play the game.
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  • idk
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    lihentian wrote: »
    i just get a friend to try out eso with me.. he is very excited.. but!! after spend several hour download the game, he run into countless patching.. ZOS if you want new player to play your game, then please do update your client.. no one enjoy a endless patching...

    p.s. i hope he will stay, but from what it seem he is pretty feed up with the endless patching... can't you patch them all at once??? or maybe include some of these patch in the base client people download???

    That does not have to do with new player. Half of it is probably local, something did not load properly. The other half is bad luck.

    Hope your friend gets things worked out.
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    LOL you haven't heard of long patches until you get a 25 gb one on a PS4 with Australian internet.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    lihentian wrote: »
    i just get a friend to try out eso with me.. he is very excited.. but!! after spend several hour download the game, he run into countless patching.. ZOS if you want new player to play your game, then please do update your client.. no one enjoy a endless patching...

    p.s. i hope he will stay, but from what it seem he is pretty feed up with the endless patching... can't you patch them all at once??? or maybe include some of these patch in the base client people download???

    That does not have to do with new player. Half of it is probably local, something did not load properly. The other half is bad luck.

    Well, some of it is "new player" in that the initial download/install has a lot of stages. I know when I installed the game last year (I had a disk, then it had to download lots of updates) it took several hours & felt like it went through dozens of different progress bars (downloading X, installing X, downloading Y, installing Y, etc, etc, ad nauseum....)
  • Bryong9ub17_ESO
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    If your friend doesn't have the patience to wait for the game install and update than this isn't the game for him. You are going to need endless patience for what he will encounter. Not just the game play with leveling and what not, but the insane bugs he'll have to deal with.
  • alexkdd99
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    Well considering he's coming to the party a couple of years late, some extensive patching is inevitable. Assure him it will be worth the wait. A minor annoyance.

    Except they could combine the patches to the base game every few months. Causing people to only have to patch a couple times. There are definitely ways they could solve this.
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Well considering he's coming to the party a couple of years late, some extensive patching is inevitable. Assure him it will be worth the wait. A minor annoyance.

    Agreed - BUT at the same time ZOS can work to consolidate its patches. It's a practice Warframe does from time to time. The thing is - when they do this, even previous patch holders have to redownload the new consolidated file.

    Still, for most people that is better 1 giant patch versus 50 smaller ones.
    Agree, do service packs with dlc / chapers this is bundled in primary download, add the small stuff after that.
    ESO+Moorwind is sold as an single game on disc so it should just be small patches on top.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • KingYogi415
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    The game is 80gigs.

    If he can't get it to download in less then 12 hours his internet is prolly not even good enough to play the game.

    Cheers!
  • Eshelmen
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    Considering there's thousands of hours worth of content in this game, spending up to a half a day to download the game, is a pretty good trade off Imo.
    PC and PS4 EP only player
  • CapnPhoton
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    Just tell him it's worth the wait...

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  • Sixsixsix161
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    I did this just a few weeks ago.

    The base game and the patches, all-to-gether are 101GB. If you download the base game from Steam, it's another 20-25 GB on top of that, for some reason.

    My Verizon DSL averages a 1GB download per hour, so it took 100 hours.

    Good luck.

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    but did he make a magicka sorc?
    Edited by Kalante on May 29, 2017 3:22AM
  • nhisso
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    I hate that so many people play with crap connections and cause lag and problems for the rest of us.
  • Jitterbug
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    Doshia would have word with you
  • notimetocare
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Big patches that happen about 3 times a year take about 30-60m to download but the small incremental ones which are every week take 5-10m. If they take more than that your internet connection is usually too slow to play the game. Note that the server is patched before the client and that usually takes 6-8h when it's down and you can't play the game.

    Not even close to true. Very easy to play on 1.5m net
  • Aurie
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    The game is 80gigs.

    If he can't get it to download in less then 12 hours his internet is prolly not even good enough to play the game.

    Cheers!

    What?

    My internet (rural) runs at 4 megs. Downloads take ages.

    I have no problem whatsoever playing this game or any other. It depends on the capabilities of your PC, not having a slow or fast internet.

  • KingYogi415
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    Aurelle1 wrote: »
    The game is 80gigs.

    If he can't get it to download in less then 12 hours his internet is prolly not even good enough to play the game.

    Cheers!

    What?

    My internet (rural) runs at 4 megs. Downloads take ages.

    I have no problem whatsoever playing this game or any other. It depends on the capabilities of your PC, not having a slow or fast internet.

    Sorry but i'd imagine your not going to be able to run trials or pvp with less then a10mbs. Maybe it will work just rubberband alot until you drop.

    My old house I had 125+ mbs and I can confirm high speed internet made the game amazingly stable. But 20-30mbs is good enough for everything to run decent. Also you location reletive to the server is a pretty big factor. The farther away you are the faster speeds you will need to get the same results.

    Cheers!
  • idk
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    lihentian wrote: »
    i just get a friend to try out eso with me.. he is very excited.. but!! after spend several hour download the game, he run into countless patching.. ZOS if you want new player to play your game, then please do update your client.. no one enjoy a endless patching...

    p.s. i hope he will stay, but from what it seem he is pretty feed up with the endless patching... can't you patch them all at once??? or maybe include some of these patch in the base client people download???

    That does not have to do with new player. Half of it is probably local, something did not load properly. The other half is bad luck.

    Well, some of it is "new player" in that the initial download/install has a lot of stages. I know when I installed the game last year (I had a disk, then it had to download lots of updates) it took several hours & felt like it went through dozens of different progress bars (downloading X, installing X, downloading Y, installing Y, etc, etc, ad nauseum....)

    Zos could clean up their stuff, I agree with that. However, I have recently DLed the game on two PC. One that I did a clean install on and the other is brand new. Had no issues with the DL.
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