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@ZOS Two Graphics Problems of Morrowind that Need to Be Fixed before Official Release
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1. The distant view of Stonefalls seen from the southernmost point of the map of Vvardenfell looks nothing like it. In fact, it looks much more like the Rift with its relatively flat terrain and the tall straight trees. I think this is very immersion breaking.
2. "Depth of Field" effect blurred red mountain too much, which makes it look much less detailed than the Ash Mountain in Stonefalls which was made in the year 2012 with the base game. This makes the Red Mountain look very out of place and cheesy.
Can ZOS please fix them after early access??
Ash Mountain with "Depth of Field"
Red Mountain with "Depth of Field"
Red Mountain without "Depth of Field"
Edited by oxxalejandroxxo on May 26, 2017 12:47AM 2. "Depth of Field" effect blurred red mountain too much, which makes it look much less detailed than the Ash Mountain in Stonefalls which was made in the year 2012 with the base game. This makes the Red Mountain look very out of place and cheesy.
Can ZOS please fix them after early access??
Ash Mountain with "Depth of Field"
Red Mountain with "Depth of Field"
Red Mountain without "Depth of Field"
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✭✭✭danieltweedleub17_ESO wrote: »No we can't fix that
We had our right handed graphics expert make the mountain with his left hand while drunk0 -
oxxalejandroxxo✭✭✭✭spencer2361 wrote: »I noticed none of them look like performance fixes for console. Does that count?
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✭Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids..."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
*puts on tin foil hat*
Edited by Stovahkiin on May 25, 2017 12:44AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
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✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
You're right... that's also a possibility. A larger planet would have slighter curve and a more distant horizon.
Those are some big ass trees, though, if they're even further than three miles away.Edited by ShedsHisTail on May 25, 2017 12:50AM"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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✭✭✭✭✭oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »
I wrote this up during PTS, but did not expect that they would be doing anything about it. I don't think it occurred to them to make Stonefalls representative when viewed from Vvardenfell.0 -
oxxalejandroxxo✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »
I wrote this up during PTS, but did not expect that they would be doing anything about it. I don't think it occurred to them to make Stonefalls representative when viewed from Vvardenfell.
Actually they have changed the views of distant Gold Coast and Malabal Tor in each other's maps to better represent the adjacent map, so I still hope they do the same thing again on the map of Vvardenfell.Edited by oxxalejandroxxo on May 25, 2017 1:14AM1 -
oxxalejandroxxo✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »
I wrote this up during PTS, but did not expect that they would be doing anything about it. I don't think it occurred to them to make Stonefalls representative when viewed from Vvardenfell.
So you were in closed beta???0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Ash Mountain/Red Mountain thing may be a result of how the landform is created. One I think is made of textures and terrain assets, while the other one isn't.
You get the same very blurry effect on Imperial City if you look out across the lake in Cyrodiil with DoF turned on. (Ever since I noticed that I've played with DoF off.)Edited by Enodoc on May 25, 2017 10:07AMUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Shogunami✭✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TES
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I believe the technical term for Nirn and all attendant Aedra is "plane(t)s".
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TESUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TES
Yo, I'm just asking questions others are afraid to ask.
"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TES
Yo, I'm just asking questions others do not care enough to ask.
Fixed that for ya Edited by SHADOW2KK on May 26, 2017 12:59AMOnce I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
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✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TES
Yo, I'm just asking questions others do not care enough to ask.
Fixed that for ya
Hey, if you're content to believe everything big-lore-nerd tells you, even when your eyes directly contradict it; that's up to you. :P"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Earth could be a very small planet compared to this one?
Have we seen any proper indications in TES lore that Nirn is indeed a planet? I mean other than Dwemer assumptions.
I was under the impression that Nirn is a plane, and not a planet. A plane with the illusion/construct that leads you back to your point of origin if traversed, but a finite plane nonetheless. Real life physics ain't got s*** on TES physics
Nirn might be, for all intents and purposes, a "planet" - but a planet is formed according to the neublar hypothesis, something we don't see in TES
Yo, I'm just asking questions others do not care enough to ask.
Fixed that for ya
Hey, if you're content to believe everything big-lore-nerd tells you, even when your eyes directly contradict it; that's up to you. :P
Hahah touche, nice riposte there sir.
No to be fair I agree with ya hehe.Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..
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LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
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Kaktus✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Honestly, I'm more surprised you can see Stonefalls at all.
On Earth the distance to the horizon from sea level is roughly three miles; because of the curvature of the planet. So are we to assume the distance between Vvardenfell and Stonefalls is less than three miles; making Nirn a very small planet? Or that there is no horizon at all; making Nirn flat?
Fire up your conspiracy theories kids...
Just remember that ESO is in a "representative" scale like how other games scale back real cities (ie Chicago in Watch Dogs). Tamriel as seen in ESO is about the size of Rhode Island, which is unrealistic given the sheer amount of diverse ecosystems and cultures. There's plenty of instances were you can see far off lands and objects that really shouldn't realistically be visible0
