morrowind crafted set to be useless

lihentian

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

Turelus

People who play hybrids will use them.

Not everyone plays the games meta nor min/max.

Don't worry, there are still a lot of sets for people who do focus one attribute, like most of them.

Drummerx04

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

What's difficult about Julianos?

Sharee

Two of the sets are meant for hybrid builds. Whether hybrids could be viable remains to be seen, i do plan to give it a try.

Cinbri

Daedric Trickery - grant major buff with 50% uptime and all 5 random buffs are most strongest from buff system. Tho it have serious problems with cooldown that might indeed make it useless.
Shacklebreaker - 4pc bonus is double and is mana and stamina regen. So, you you mana build for return of 2pc weapon damage you have 4pc stamina regen, if you stamina build - for return of 2pc spelldamage you'll have 4pc mana regen. Those regen things important no matter if you stamina/magicka build. And if you templar or dk this weapon damage will increase your light/heavy attacks damage a bit.
Assassin Guile - same as previous have double bonus, so no matter of your build you won't loose a single pc bonus.

In recap: we finally will have strong(mostly) crafted sets. Strong as itself coz you not loosing bonuses if you focus on mana/stamina and even stronger for hybrids.

idk

Drummerx04 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

What's difficult about Julianos?

Exactly. People play with different goals in mind. While I have no interest in playing a hybrid build, I do respect that those who choose that path should have something to work with.

As Drummer pointed out, there is gear already available, that are good and great choices for those interested in a pure stam or mag build.

lihentian

Drummerx04 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

What's difficult about Julianos?

i mean from morrowind expansion.. not from the entire game

Cinbri wrote: »

Daedric Trickery - grant major buff with 50% uptime and all 5 random buffs are most strongest from buff system. Tho it have serious problems with cooldown that might indeed make it useless.
Shacklebreaker - 4pc bonus is double and is mana and stamina regen. So, you you mana build for return of 2pc weapon damage you have 4pc stamina regen, if you stamina build - for return of 2pc spelldamage you'll have 4pc mana regen. Those regen things important no matter if you stamina/magicka build. And if you templar or dk this weapon damage will increase your light/heavy attacks damage a bit.
Assassin Guile - same as previous have double bonus, so no matter of your build you won't loose a single pc bonus.

In recap: we finally will have strong(mostly) crafted sets. Strong as itself coz you not loosing bonuses if you focus on mana/stamina and even stronger for hybrids.

wait.. you mean we get full bonus for both side?? that would be awesome... i might even make a hybrid build...

Qbiken

I´ve tried deadric trickery on the PTS in PvP (on stamDK, it´s not dead yet I promise) and my only consern with the set is the 10 sec cooldown where you won´t have any buff active. Otherwise I think this set is really good for PvP. But as many have said, the cooldown needs to be lowered to every 15th second or something like that.

Betsararie

The sets are for noobs.

People just starting out lvl 1-15 who don't know how or what to play.

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[Edit for Baiting]

Wizball1987

Do they work with "this will be a buff if your below (?)magika"

STEVIL

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

Asked repeatedly for a change to them for many of the same reasons.

Suggested that the trickery lose its cooldown because half the bonuses will likely be useless anyway to any given recipient so thats a de facto cool down.

have come to think trickery may be Ok, not BiS but good enough, to use for some builds - since if i am right - the weapon crit will help poison crit chances. so, at least some utility gained. its benefits tho will be most seen on say double or triple-effect poisons if it works like i suspect - boosting all effects by 4s each. but have to be sure.

shacklebreaker, seems limiting to me and that is perhaps ironic.

all three having split focus tho, was a definite complaint i lodged so still holding some slight hope tomorrow patch notes surprise me.

been a long time since crafteds got any serious lovin'.

Taleof2Cities

STEVIL wrote: »

been a long time since crafteds got any serious lovin'.

Right?

Many times I've posted to improve the underperforming crafted sets across multiple threads ... but still not as much as a peep from ZOS.

Enslaved

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

Your question is not very good. People used to grind starter islands for trainee set jewelry when it was good set, and SB seems like better set than trainee ever was. And assassin's guile with it's nasty 5pc bonus will be used in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Drummerx04 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

What's difficult about Julianos?

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

lihentian wrote: »

Assassin’s Guile- both spell and weapon damage/critical???

Daedric Trickery- gain a random buff every 20 sec?????

Shacklebreaker- max stamina and magicka plus spell and weapon damage????

really who would use these set??? personally i find it very hard to use any of the crafted set...

What's difficult about Julianos?

Exactly. People play with different goals in mind. While I have no interest in playing a hybrid build, I do respect that those who choose that path should have something to work with.

As Drummer pointed out, there is gear already available, that are good and great choices for those interested in a pure stam or mag build.

The title itself says morrowind crafted sets are useless and you two somehow bring Julianos in here???

Vanzen

Shaklebreaker ...

If you dont see how this set is so good for certain class and build ...

Mojmir

Turelus wrote: »

People who play hybrids will use them.

Not everyone plays the games meta nor min/max.

Don't worry, there are still a lot of sets for people who do focus one attribute, like most of them.

Cool,you can run out 2 resources even faster with those sets.

Flaminir

Personally I'm very excited for Shacklebreaker!
I have a tank/DPS hybrid for 4man content...

Shacklebreaker will be PERFECT for them!

MehrunesFlagon

Mojmir wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

People who play hybrids will use them.

Not everyone plays the games meta nor min/max.

Don't worry, there are still a lot of sets for people who do focus one attribute, like most of them.

Cool,you can run out 2 resources even faster with those sets.

this.

Koensol

I hope so much for hybrids to become viable again. I loved to play my SnB/Resto templar 5H2L hybrid in PvP in 1.5. After that it all went downhill in terms of pvp in my opinion.

AtAfternoon

I'll be using Daedric trickery because it looks like a fun set to use.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

We suggested a few changes to ZOS on the PTS forums but of course they didn't listen.

CavalryPK

Vanzen wrote: »

Shaklebreaker ...

If you dont see how this set is so good for certain class and build ...

I would like to know more please.