What reason would you use to report someone for vote kick abuse?

mbn89

Ok, so you waited 15+ minutes as dps to get into a dungeon. Que pops you enter a half done dungeon and are immediately kicked as your typing "Hey everyone"......you wait your 12 minutes or however etc.... Re-que wait your 15+ minutes again, this time your kicked immediately at the start of a fresh dungeon. This crap needs to stop, looking to report all involved. Will call and bother representatives for the next 5-6 hours if need be, you know just whine and complain till they get so sick of you that they just do what you want. It's a tried and true system...where do I start?

zaria

Was you kicked after just 5 seconds? If that case it was probably the dungeon bug.
If you queue with an half formed group its an good chance all get kicked on dungeon load.
Remember it takes time to do an vote kick and vote kick on launch is rare.

Calsifer

I think the problem should be in how often someone elects to vote kick. If you initiate a vote kick too often or too rapidly in succession you can no longer vote kick for 30 minutes.

Ghettokid

Are you orc?
Cause if not then of course you get kicked. Laws of physics duh.

mbn89

zaria wrote: »

Was you kicked after just 5 seconds? If that case it was probably the dungeon bug.
If you queue with an half formed group its an good chance all get kicked on dungeon load.
Remember it takes time to do an vote kick and vote kick on launch is rare.

It was around 15-20 seconds roughly the second time which was a fresh group. It might be of note that I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least.

The first time I was able to run all the way to the middle of the map as they were kicking me, I had only been in for like 30 seconds tops when it said I was removed.

Bryong9ub17_ESO

"I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least."

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45?
Expect to be kicked.

What kind of dungeon was it? If I'm doing a vet2 dungeon and a cp45 joined I'd kick to. Or just drop out myself depending what the rest of the group is.

Don't expect to be carried and do content more for your level.

OutLaw_Nynx

Reporting everyone because they don't want a level 45. Weird.

Magdalina

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

"I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least."

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45?
Expect to be kicked.

What kind of dungeon was it? If I'm doing a vet2 dungeon and a cp45 joined I'd kick to. Or just drop out myself depending what the rest of the group is.

Don't expect to be carried and do content more for your level.

He couldn't have possibly queued for, or been put into a vet dungeon at level 45. Also what do you mean by vet 2 dungeon? All dungeons are scaled to cp 160 now, but so are all the players.

Worst case it could be a normal dlc dungeon. Still silly because you can perfectly do them at level 15 or so if you follow the mechanics, and cp 250 should've been able to 2 man it anyway.

To OP - though I don't agree with the kicking, you can't really report them. If 3 people agreed they don't want you, however foolish their reasoning might be, it is their choice. I suggest a guild or a friend at least. Remember, if there's at least 2 of you vote to kick will fail.

Bryong9ub17_ESO

Magdalina wrote: »

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

"I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least."

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45?
Expect to be kicked.

What kind of dungeon was it? If I'm doing a vet2 dungeon and a cp45 joined I'd kick to. Or just drop out myself depending what the rest of the group is.

Don't expect to be carried and do content more for your level.

He couldn't have possibly queued for, or been put into a vet dungeon at level 45. Also what do you mean by vet 2 dungeon? All dungeons are scaled to cp 160 now, but so are all the players.

Worst case it could be a normal dlc dungeon. Still silly because you can perfectly do them at level 15 or so if you follow the mechanics, and cp 250 should've been able to 2 man it anyway.

Are Vet 2 dungeons not more difficult?...

And i know he couldn't queue for Vet at level 45...

He did not specify if he meant level 45 or cp 45...

I assumed cp 45 because why would cp250's be running a normal dungeon.?

Shadow_Viper_vX

ZOS really needs to fix the group/dungeon finder, it's right up their with addressing performance/lag.

Kali_Despoine

not sure if unlucky or your just queue for vet while under 300 cp. I will vote if under 160cp.
Ether way it's not something you can report a player for doing since they can only kick you once every 15 min and I don't think you got in the same group after you waited 15 to requeue.

Sorry about your luck but it happens. Get a friend

As for vet2 dungeons. Well they were the only vet dungeons in the game at one point. They take skill and team work to do. They are inherently harder.

BTW group finder has been broken since launch and now even worse since homestead.

Draekony

Last time I saw this happen was veteran ruins of mazzatun..random finder placed us back to back with cp44 dps and cp61 dps, kicked em both. Just aint gonna happen

Mojmir

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

"I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least."

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45?
Expect to be kicked.

What kind of dungeon was it? If I'm doing a vet2 dungeon and a cp45 joined I'd kick to. Or just drop out myself depending what the rest of the group is.

Don't expect to be carried and do content more for your level.

He couldn't have possibly queued for, or been put into a vet dungeon at level 45. Also what do you mean by vet 2 dungeon? All dungeons are scaled to cp 160 now, but so are all the players.

Worst case it could be a normal dlc dungeon. Still silly because you can perfectly do them at level 15 or so if you follow the mechanics, and cp 250 should've been able to 2 man it anyway.

Are Vet 2 dungeons not more difficult?...

And i know he couldn't queue for Vet at level 45...

He did not specify if he meant level 45 or cp 45...

I assumed cp 45 because why would cp250's be running a normal dungeon.?

Farming,random daily xp.

KRBC

Vote kicking needs to be removed people rage kick and it's not fare

flguy147ub17_ESO

I bet a lot of times people just kick the lowest CP cause they are the lowest lol. I have been in 2 dungeons recently where one time i asked if anybody gets the bug where they cant weave attacks for like 30 secs. And the 540 CP Healer goes what is weaving, she literally had no clue what it was. Then in City of Ash the other dps asked the 600 CP Healer if they were using Drain, they replied asking what that was and didnt even know what it was. Both dungeons we finished pretty easy but if we would have wiped then i would have been kicked both times probably because i was the lowest CP eventhough i wasnt the problem. Eventhough i have been playing since PC Beta but switched to Xbox recently.

kargen27

Initiate vote kick should work like feeding your horse. You get one per day and it costs you 250 gold.

Danikat

This is why I prefer systems that list all the groups looking and their requirements and let players choose which one to join.

That way people who only want to play with people whose CP matches or exceeds their own can say so, and (depending on the system) either people who don't meet the requirements can't join their group at all but can join others looking at the same time, or they can join any group but then the group is well within their rights to kick if the person doesn't meet their requirements.

Meanwhile people who either don't need to rely on the PUGs to get them through or who are willing to muddle through it together can set up groups open to everyone regardless of level, CP etc. People who want strict requirements can simply not choose to join those groups, while those who would get kicked from the first type can find groups to join.

It lets everyone use the same tool to find a group with minimal interference with each other. (In my experience its only a problem when some idiot joins random groups without reading or when some idiot creates a group and doesn't bother to write their requirements because they seem to think everyone else is psychic.

KRBC

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

I bet a lot of times people just kick the lowest CP cause they are the lowest lol. I have been in 2 dungeons recently where one time i asked if anybody gets the bug where they cant weave attacks for like 30 secs. And the 540 CP Healer goes what is weaving, she literally had no clue what it was. Then in City of Ash the other dps asked the 600 CP Healer if they were using Drain, they replied asking what that was and didnt even know what it was. Both dungeons we finished pretty easy but if we would have wiped then i would have been kicked both times probably because i was the lowest CP eventhough i wasnt the problem. Eventhough i have been playing since PC Beta but switched to Xbox recently.

Thats the problem with power leveling, but what does weave attacks mean is like side stepping?

Runschei

If it is a normal dungeon I'll nevet vote to kick. I can solo it so carrying 1 (or 3 for that matter) is bo problem for me. If it is a vet I'm up for trying, but if any group member (cp4 or cp600 idc) doesn't know mechanics, and refuses to read the chat, even after I've explained in 5-6 different languages. That's when I'll either vote to kick or leave myself. If it's just one person messing up I'll vote to kick that certain person. If it's two or more I'll leave and head to guildchats for a group.

lientier

some call it weave some animation canceling
I dunno what drain means.. and I have a cp600 healer, elemental drain maybe? also not everyone playing with you has the same language.. so sometimes people dont know the english words..

Magdalina

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

"I am lvl 45, they were all over cp 250 at the least."

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45?
Expect to be kicked.

What kind of dungeon was it? If I'm doing a vet2 dungeon and a cp45 joined I'd kick to. Or just drop out myself depending what the rest of the group is.

Don't expect to be carried and do content more for your level.

He couldn't have possibly queued for, or been put into a vet dungeon at level 45. Also what do you mean by vet 2 dungeon? All dungeons are scaled to cp 160 now, but so are all the players.

Worst case it could be a normal dlc dungeon. Still silly because you can perfectly do them at level 15 or so if you follow the mechanics, and cp 250 should've been able to 2 man it anyway.

Are Vet 2 dungeons not more difficult?...

And i know he couldn't queue for Vet at level 45...

He did not specify if he meant level 45 or cp 45...

I assumed cp 45 because why would cp250's be running a normal dungeon.?

Lots of cp people run normal dungeons, either getting easy pledge key(just one but at least it's fast and easy) or, more often, farming for gear. And yes, dungeons II are somewhat more difficult(I wouldn't say Wayrest II is more difficult than, say, Tempest, despite Tempest not having II in its name) in terms of mechanics but honestly you can ignore pretty much all of these mechanics on normal mode if your dps is even 1/4 half decent.

I've carried a group through FG II as a level 45 dps with no cp; the 600 cp healer didn't heal and died first on first big trash pack, then dropped, the 240 cp other dps spent most of his time there dead(despite me grabbing a resto skill and actually healing it, he'd keep getting oneshot) while javelin spamming everything and ragequit after I didn't res him for 10th time on Spawn of Mephala, the level 42 tank wasn't very sturdy nor good at keeping agro but at least he stuck with it to the end. Groupfinder only found us one dps for the last boss who were 200-something cp and kept dying as well but we didn't wipe because I healed/ressed. It was actually pretty fun and challenging and would've been a super easy run had had everyone not ragequit. It's definitely more than possible at level 45, I could've probably soloed it aside from mechanics requiring 2 people.

Sikthlight08xz

The solution is simple, we need an addon for this.

Auto-block initiator of votekick when Player only just joined dungeon party.
Blocked persons get added to globally shared database.

Eventually, kickers will either play only with premades/friends, or, not at all anymore.

dovakiin5574

If you really want to run dungeons without getting kicked then join a guild. That's just how it is, if you don't want a guild then get to cp 160. All of us at some point got the rejection kicks.

F7sus4

If you're joining a dungeon and it's already half-done (portal at the entrance) - it's a trap. The group is either terribly bad and someone left or was kicked.

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

Here is your problem. Is this a Vet dungeon? If so, what the hell are you doing even queuing at 45? Expect to be kicked.

You can't queue for veteran dungeons before reaching 50+ level.

DMuehlhausen

zaria wrote: »

Was you kicked after just 5 seconds? If that case it was probably the dungeon bug.
If you queue with an half formed group its an good chance all get kicked on dungeon load.
Remember it takes time to do an vote kick and vote kick on launch is rare.

People can see you as soon as you join. The vote normally goes through while you are loading in.

DMuehlhausen

dovakiin5574 wrote: »

If you really want to run dungeons without getting kicked then join a guild. That's just how it is, if you don't want a guild then get to cp 160. All of us at some point got the rejection kicks.

I'm CP 480+ and I still get kicked from groups, and I'm a healer. It's not always as simple as join a guild. Healers and tanks (like in all MMOs) are in such short supply people should just be willing to give anybody a try.